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post #511 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post

SRH940 dethroning K70x?  Hard to imagine.  =p

By the way, you should have gone with ATH-A2000X instead of DT770.  You will probably find SRH940 to be the replacement for your DT770, but for half the price of A2kX, lol!


I can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic! blink.gif If sarcastic, well, all I meant is while I do think the 702 is a superb headphone and my personal favorite (so far), I know it has defects like the plasticy mids, non present bass (not just light), and an over exaggerated sound stage. I do think amping fixes all of these though, at least besides the wide sound stage which doesn't really bug me (the can never sounds distant to me, unlike others I've heard like the Senn 595 or Beyer 770). And I know others simply don't like it (like I don't like the 595's) and I'd be happy to find a superior can around the same price and admit the 702 is not as great as I thought it was, for then I would be enjoying another can even more! smily_headphones1.gif

 

I don't know much about the ATH 2000, but that's probably because it is over $300 or so retail. I have a self imposed limit I'll spend on any can: $300 (so far I'm only at $266 with the 702's). I just can't personally justify paying more for a bit of plastic and metal, especially because I think the law of diminishing returns kicks in around this price point ($300-$500 retail) from everything I've read, such as some posts itt comparing this "mere" $300 retail phone to those 2 to 3x it's price. Remember that I also only listen to headphones about 20 to 30% of the time anyway; otherwise I vastly prefer speakers in every conceivable way and have spent some money on those (relative to their diminishing return price points as well).

 

So I bought the 770's because they were cheap-ish and I only "have to" listen to closed cans about 10% of the time anyway, if that. They were my first decent pair of closed cans however and I was surprised by their wide sound stage in that I never feel closed in. So thus I'm not against other closed cans even if I don't really need them. It's always nice to know I'm not bugging my gf with any leakage or to have the privacy of closed cans anyway.


 

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Originally Posted by GuyDebord View Post

Well, they are both very different headphones, not easy to compare, but this is what I can say about it.... I once owned the K701's and I must say that in terms of clarity, detail, resolution, treble, musicality and bass the 940's win (considering both headphones have been well amplified). The K701 win on soundstage, this is where they excelled, perhaps exaggerated... but for a closed headphone the 940's are surprisingly open. So yes, If you want an closed can that is somehow near to the detailed nature of the K701, the 940's are the ones, but if I had to choose, I would got with the 940's, I would prefer to sacrifice the enormous soundstage and looks for a more musical and detailed can.

 

Again, the 940's NEED TO BE AMPLIFIED!

 

 

Thank you! That helps. If the 940's could trump the 701/02's in terms of overall clarity and detail that's what I'm looking for. My only problem with the 702's is that they can have a kind of "mid range "haze". Not a dark "veil" like Senns, or anything recessed or distant like the 770's (and I've heard of Denons), but something that makes something in the overall sound signature not as clear as I like (at least with some recordings). This makes them non-fatiguing for long periods, but I'm not fatigued easily anyway (I can listen to bright-in-your-face metal on the 225i's for hours and be just fine...and yes I can hear up to 18hz at least). 

 

I know what you mean by "musical" yet detailed btw, it's how I would describe my Matrix M-Stage amp which is one reason it does well with the 70x series. I don't like distortion and prefer analytical over warm any day, but I also like the sound to not be dry, flat, boring, or lifeless either. To sound resolving and clear yet also emotionally engaging.

 

I'm also looking at the FA 003's. They are cheaper of course and said to be detailed/analytical/resolving/etc. as well. Anyone have any thoughts on those either?
 

 


Edited by Pratt - 6/25/11 at 6:59pm
post #512 of 3844

ok everyone i need to know if these fix the shure srh840. because i feel the srh840 is nothing special. i have yet to find something that sounds good with them. i always hear something wrong in every song. these don't feel like they are good for music but movies run well.

post #513 of 3844

Almost nothing gets the harmonics right to my ears, lol.  The exceptions I mention to people are RE0 and HD600, from what I've tried, followed closely by RE252 and RE-ZERO.

By "musical" notes, you mean just the music notes, right?  =p

 

K701 isn't the most musical then, but not unmusical altogether.

 

 

 


 

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Originally Posted by Pratt View Post




I can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic! blink.gif If sarcastic, well, all I meant is while I do think the 702 is a superb headphone and my personal favorite (so far), I know it has defects like the plasticy mids, non present bass (not just light), and an over exaggerated sound stage. I do think amping fixes all of these though, at least besides the wide sound stage which doesn't really bug me (the can never sounds distant to me, unlike others I've heard like the Senn 595 or Beyer 770). And I know others simply don't like it (like I don't like the 595's) and I'd be happy to find a superior can around the same price and admit the 702 is not as great as I thought it was, for then I would be enjoying another can even more! smily_headphones1.gif

 

I don't know much about the ATH 2000, but that's probably because it is over $300 or so retail. I have a self imposed limit I'll spend on any can: $300 (so far I'm only at $266 with the 702's). I just can't personally justify paying more for a bit of plastic and metal, especially because I think the law of diminishing returns kicks in around this price point ($300-$500 retail) from everything I've read, such as some posts itt comparing this "mere" $300 retail phone to those 2 to 3x it's price. Remember that I also only listen to headphones about 20 to 30% of the time anyway; otherwise I vastly prefer speakers in every conceivable way and have spent some money on those (relative to their diminishing return price points as well).

 

So I bought the 770's because they were cheap-ish and I only "have to" listen to closed cans about 10% of the time anyway, if that. They were my first decent pair of closed cans however and I was surprised by their wide sound stage in that I never feel closed in. So thus I'm not against other closed cans even if I don't really need them. It's always nice to know I'm not bugging my gf with any leakage or to have the privacy of closed cans anyway.


 

 

Thank you! That helps. If the 940's could trump the 701/02's in terms of overall clarity and detail that's what I'm looking for. My only problem with the 702's is that they can have a kind of "mid range "haze". Not a dark "veil" like Senns, or anything recessed or distant like the 770's (and I've heard of Denons), but something that makes something in the overall sound signature not as clear as I like (at least with some recordings). This makes them non-fatiguing for long periods, but I'm not fatigued easily anyway (I can listen to bright-in-your-face metal on the 225i's for hours and be just fine...and yes I can hear up to 18hz at least). 

 

I know what you mean by "musical" yet detailed btw, it's how I would describe my Matrix M-Stage amp which is one reason it does well with the 70x series. I don't like distortion and prefer analytical over warm any day, but I also like the sound to not be dry, flat, boring, or lifeless either. To sound resolving and clear yet also emotionally engaging.

 

I'm also looking at the FA 003's. They are cheaper of course and said to be detailed/analytical/resolving/etc. as well. Anyone have any thoughts on those either?
 

 


My K701 is dampened, by the way.  Fixes all the issues, but that's assuming that they are well-amped.  I know my Compass can't do it for sure with the carved out, partly mutilated sound K701 gets out of that amp, but my M-Stage can for sure judging by the more complete sound K701 gets out of it.  A2000X still runs circles around it - out of an ipod.  It is more efficient than my SR325.


Edited by Mad Max - 6/25/11 at 7:14pm
post #514 of 3844
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Originally Posted by GuyDebord View Post

Again, the 940's NEED TO BE AMPLIFIED!


Uh oh. I've been using them straight off my E354 and iAudio 7 almost exclusively. I'll have to try them with my EF5 soon.

 

post #515 of 3844
I completely disagree with SRH 940's needing to be amped. They sound wonderful straight out of my iPad so I don't know what you're using them out of to merit that statement... A Walkman, perhaps?
post #516 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Germancub View Post

I completely disagree with SRH 940's needing to be amped. They sound wonderful straight out of my iPad so I don't know what you're using them out of to merit that statement... A Walkman, perhaps?

 

Try them well amp, and you will see. I have a European 160 iPod 7thgen, perhaps you are not aware that European laws 'protect' your ears, so the volume is limited, I always use this iPod as a Benchmark for amped or not, and this iPod simply cant drive the 940's. For those with European portable electronics these cans would be a dissapointment without an amp. My American iPad keeps up with them but it does nothing compared to having them amplified, they just shine with one.
 

 


Edited by GuyDebord - 6/25/11 at 9:55pm
post #517 of 3844

You have to try Staxen, also my EarSonics EM3-Pro's are all about perfect harmonics. The RE0's and HD600's are musical toys in comparison.
 

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Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post

Almost nothing gets the harmonics right to my ears, lol.  The exceptions I mention to people are RE0 and HD600, from what I've tried, followed closely by RE252 and RE-ZERO.

post #518 of 3844
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Originally Posted by bcasey25raptor View Post

ok everyone i need to know if these fix the shure srh840. because i feel the srh840 is nothing special. i have yet to find something that sounds good with them. i always hear something wrong in every song. these don't feel like they are good for music but movies run well.


I doubt nothing sounds good. Have you listened to any good recorded music with them?

 

 

 
 
These samples are youtube but they still have decent sound.
 

Edited by mibutenma - 6/25/11 at 10:53pm
post #519 of 3844
To all of ya who have a pair of 940s: how fatiguing are they? Usually bright and detailed headphones are pretty fatiguing, so it unfortunately seems like these would be, and I'm pretty sensitive to fatiguing headphones, so if they are, then it would rule them out for me.
post #520 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Germancub View Post

I completely disagree with SRH 940's needing to be amped. They sound wonderful straight out of my iPad so I don't know what you're using them out of to merit that statement... A Walkman, perhaps?


I think there is some miscommunication.  My perspective is that they can be powered just fine unamped, but really do improve quite a bit from just a little help.  I notice a pretty big difference from my iPod's amp, to the amp in the e7 (which might even be a questionable "amp" - I bought it for the DAC), and even more improvement in the e9.  I find the jump from iPod to e7 more substantial than e7 to e9, but each step still significant.  The lows are really what are improved significantly.

post #521 of 3844
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Originally Posted by adriantannerisb View Post

To all of ya who have a pair of 940s: how fatiguing are they? Usually bright and detailed headphones are pretty fatiguing, so it unfortunately seems like these would be, and I'm pretty sensitive to fatiguing headphones, so if they are, then it would rule them out for me.


One of the most impressive aspects of this headphone, for me, is that they do hold such a high level of detail without being fatiguing at all.... that is if you can stand the headband which I find that I have to adjust frequently (the sit, not the expansion) while some others are just fine with the comfort.

post #522 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Germancub View Post

I completely disagree with SRH 940's needing to be amped. They sound wonderful straight out of my iPad so I don't know what you're using them out of to merit that statement... A Walkman, perhaps?


They dont necessarily need to be amped but it always sounds fuller with the amp.

post #523 of 3844

the last question before i hand this down. Can srh940 sing smooth and relax like hd650 that i can listen whole night long? Or the srh940 is just something for critical and serious listening audiophile headphone?

i know a lot people hate the hd650 because it's dark and boring, but i like it because i just want the song sound soft with good separation. deadhorse.gif


Edited by chchyong89 - 6/26/11 at 4:50am
post #524 of 3844

I am going to say this--

The SRH940 and HD650 most definitely have different sound signatures, but both are similar in the sense that neither have anything close to a fatiguing sound.

post #525 of 3844

If I liked the sound signature of AKG K601, will I love the Shure SRH 940? The reviews made so far suggest both are similar.

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