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post #481 of 3844

I received the 940's today and here are my first impressions:

 

- They are hard to drive, I would not recommended these headphones for a single standard portable source like an ipod. You really need an amp for this babies, my EU iPod alone could not drive them, my Arrow had to be put in the Gain 2 setting.

- At its early stages they have quite a grainy treble, I hope it improves

- Its neutral, certainly not sweet like ed.8, pro900 and the 840's, and I like this!

- The Bass seems perfectly controlled, again neutral, not overemphasized like the headphones I mentioned above. I really liked this about the 940's, Im tired of cans that claim High-end and overemphasize Bass.

- Voices sound very, very good, especially female

- Very detailed headphone, hi-res, I was not expecting this from Shure. They live up to the "Critical Listening" marketing they use.

- High quality built, but to my taste these are really, really ugly. Grotesque proportions and over-designed forms/shapes, a pitty

- Good isolation and so far very comfortable

post #482 of 3844
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Still Rock a Dreamcast!!

 

Regarding 440 vs 940, I have both, used the 440s (with 840 pads) for more than a year continuously (at least 5 hours a day 5 days a week) and I can tell you that they don't have the expanded soundstage nor the clearer mids and highs as the 940s does. But somehow the bass region sounds more full, maybe a bit more in your face ... it's definitely something I miss on the 940s. Seems the 940s are more detailed oriented and although I miss bass quantity I appreciate the clear notes the 940 produces on the low-end.
 

 

Thanks.

 

P.S. Bear in mind, I'm using them unamped!!!

 

 


Now that's what matters. Couldn't care less about emphasis or fullness myself, something I really dislike about the 840s. What goes as "thin" around here can usually be considered accurate :)

 

To someone saying the "notes lack attitude": I really don't know what you mean! I can guess, but I myself think that they need to be heard absolutely, not felt. 

 

Maybe someone can do a shout-out between these and the K271/2's, hmm? :)

 

Majora's Mask > Ocarina of Time = Blasphemy! ... Who's still waiting for Shenmue 3? :(

post #483 of 3844
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I do feel that similarly to the quality of music, the quality of games seems to be going downhill. The developers seem to become more and more interested in moneymaking and don't bother working much on the storyline, the characters and even the graphics.

Yeah, i agree with what you are saying about the plot and the quality of games but graphics is another story... DX11 with tessellation enabled using an nVidia gpu in say, The Witcher 2 for example, is amazing. If you have watched BF3 gameplay then you would notice that the graphics engine in that game is crazy and it makes Crysis' graphics seem bad. In the case of the COD franchise, yeah i understand... MW3 and they still haven't changed their graphics engine since MW.
 

KOTOR FTW biggrin.gif

 


Edited by SunBakedEmoKid - 6/24/11 at 2:53am
post #484 of 3844
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Now that's what matters. Couldn't care less about emphasis or fullness myself, something I really dislike about the 840s. What goes as "thin" around here can usually be considered accurate :)

To someone saying the "notes lack attitude": I really don't know what you mean! I can guess, but I myself think that they need to be heard absolutely, not felt. 

 

I will have to agree with you that SRH840 may not have the most articulate low end, but for me it was articulate enough. I agree that K271 is more articulate down there. As for the 940s, I honestly can't say right now whether they are well articulated in the lows or not. So far, the bass on them just sounds like a lighter, but somewhat more detailed version of SRH840 low end. But then again, I haven't tried them amped.

 

Now, I am a kind of person who also like the best possible articulation in the sound, including bass. But IMO, low end can be both powerful/punchy, full and articulate. For example, Ortofon e-Q7 IEMs have a wonderfully articulate lows - maybe even more so than the K271 - but also offer plenty of depth, power and richness. Maybe amped SRH940 also sounds rich, but unamped it is quite thin and anemic and I don't care how well defined and presented the low end notes are if they lack a good body.

 

BTW, in direct AB comparison with the SRH940, even my RE0 which many around here consider thin (I personally consider it neutral) has significantly fuller lows unamped than the Shures. Heck, even Etymotic ER4 has fuller bass than this. Hopefully burn in will help.


Edited by Pianist - 6/24/11 at 7:35am
post #485 of 3844

That's great to see! I bought the Shure 840s a while back but had to return them. One main reason was excessive mid-bass, which made them feel claustrophobic.

 

The other main reason was the headband digging relentlessly into my head. It gave me a mighty sore place after a very short time. I thought it was going to dig a bald patch if I kept the headphones!

 

In comparison, I find the Shure 440s generally comfortable and satisfying, especially for the price I paid ($80). Still, I'd like to get some closed headphones that are more refined, with less harsh treble, but equal (or greater) comfort and isolation.

 

I love my Denon AH-D7000s dearly and will definitely keep them, but their isolation is poor, and I don't want to scratch the nice wood by hauling them around.
 

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according to the headroom graph the shure srh940 has fixed the bass hump and tamed the treble roll off a little bit.

 

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post #486 of 3844
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Maybe amped SRH940 also sounds rich, but unamped it is quite thin and anemic and I don't care how well defined and presented the low end notes are if they lack a good body.


Of course it's all how you prioritize. That's the difference between us in this case. For me: music > preferred sound, always. If I can't "understand" the music, it's a total showstopper. You have to be able to discern notes and pitch variations. That's what the 840s, or many other phones for that matter, won't let me do with a bit more complex material.

 

post #487 of 3844

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Originally Posted by electropop View Post
Now that's what matters. Couldn't care less about emphasis or fullness myself, something I really dislike about the 840s. What goes as "thin" around here can usually be considered accurate :)

 

To someone saying the "notes lack attitude": I really don't know what you mean! I can guess, but I myself think that they need to be heard absolutely, not felt. 

 

Maybe someone can do a shout-out between these and the K271/2's, hmm? :)

 

Majora's Mask > Ocarina of Time = Blasphemy! ... Who's still waiting for Shenmue 3? :(


I am! *raises hand emphatically* Come on Yu Suzuki, get that project started!biggrin.gif   I'm starting to really appreciate the lighter more energetic character of the SRH440.  I'm really enjoying the way it presents the musical detail so easily and with some surprising dynamic punch.

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...  Ocarina of Time = Blasphemy! ...


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post #489 of 3844

With apologies to all the Zelda fans out there, but Link does not hold a candle to a certain blue hedgehog.   I'm sure you guys know who I'm talking about, the one that can run circles around Ganondorf before the guy can even lift his sword to counterattack.  Throw in his Supersonic transformation and you've got one unstoppable force!biggrin.gif (sorry guys, couldn't resist)

post #490 of 3844

I haven't kept up with that hedgehog since the late '90s, but I saw that transformation on youtube and it looks like a blatant Dragon Ball Z rip-off, lol.

Legend of Zelda is more fun anyway.

post #491 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

 

I will have to agree with you that SRH840 may not have the most articulate low end, but for me it was articulate enough. I agree that K271 is more articulate down there. As for the 940s, I honestly can't say right now whether they are well articulated in the lows or not. So far, the bass on them just sounds like a lighter, but somewhat more detailed version of SRH840 low end. But then again, I haven't tried them amped.

 

Now, I am a kind of person who also like the best possible articulation in the sound, including bass. But IMO, low end can be both powerful/punchy, full and articulate. For example, Ortofon e-Q7 IEMs have a wonderfully articulate lows - maybe even more so than the K271 - but also offer plenty of depth, power and richness. Maybe amped SRH940 also sounds rich, but unamped it is quite thin and anemic and I don't care how well defined and presented the low end notes are if they lack a good body.

 

BTW, in direct AB comparison with the SRH940, even my RE0 which many around here consider thin (I personally consider it neutral) has significantly fuller lows unamped than the Shures. Heck, even Etymotic ER4 has fuller bass than this. Hopefully burn in will help.



They sound quite a bit better with some juice behind them.  I notice differences in the low end going from unamped, to e7, to e9. I'm not saying they're bass monsters by any means, but the extension is solid and note recovery is stellar.  The notes run together more and have less life when unamped (my experience).  That's what I mentioned in my review, and I still feel that way.

post #492 of 3844
The lack of "fullness" most are describing seems to be a lack of an emphasis that has been pounded into our brain that has to be there. Thumping, "full" bass = happy times for most people. For the ones who like their bass accurate, the 940's are really the cream of the crop. Its all about what you like and if you prefer a stronger low end, the 840's are better for you in that regard.
post #493 of 3844
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The lack of "fullness" most are describing seems to be a lack of an emphasis that has been pounded into our brain that has to be there. Thumping, "full" bass = happy times for most people. For the ones who like their bass accurate, the 940's are really the cream of the crop. Its all about what you like and if you prefer a stronger low end, the 840's are better for you in that regard.


i personally find the mid bass to emphasized in the shure srh840. i love the headphones but the midbass seems to over power over other frequencies.

post #494 of 3844
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i personally find the mid bass to emphasized in the shure srh840. i love the headphones but the midbass seems to over power over other frequencies.


Unfortunately the vast majority of dynamics need to add quite a large midbass hump in order to get any deep bass out of the drivers at all.

 

Some people hate those sorts of midbass humps but what I can't stand at all is a lack of bass extension.  Nothing sounds like it has any weight to it all unless the bass goes deep enough.  If I have to chose, I'll take the hump in order to get the extension that comes with it but other people are happy to disregard those last few octaves if they happen to impinge on anything else.

 

I enjoy dissecting these sorts of things in order to tease out a little bit of data...

post #495 of 3844

I know this is very ignorant question before i getting myself a  headphone, but i wish to have an answer for comparing hd650 with srh940 which the price tag

is very close with each other.

 

Test with my own ears would be great but i can't find any store around me have demo unit of srh940 for testing purpose. So any recommendation would be highly

appreciated. 

 

Chong

 

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