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post #3556 of 3844

New to the site, just bought the SRH940, at first I didn't understand why people were stating the headphones were uncomfortable, but after a few hours of gaming I see that the headphone does start to sink into the skull. Interested to hear about this potential upgrade from people who try it.

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By the way I didn't want my post to go past this page, less exposure so I will quote myself to keep it at the front

 

 

 

Does your custom-made cable can be used in other type of headphones (cable detachable) such as ATH-Pro700MK 2, Beats studio/pro...etc?

Will it further improve the separation, detail & sounds stage in those headphones?

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Quick update on the Cable World Tour, it seems postal service is very very slow. I sent BobJS the cable on Monday 30th July and he has still not received the cable! Will update when he receives it.

 

If it has not turned up by next week I will have to make other arrangements...


Still true, I'm afraid.  Maybe today? ..........

post #3559 of 3844
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Originally Posted by cyberalpha11 View Post

Does your custom-made cable can be used in other type of headphones (cable detachable) such as ATH-Pro700MK 2, Beats studio/pro...etc?

Will it further improve the separation, detail & sounds stage in those headphones?

 

It will only work on the Shure type 2.5mm mini jack locking system such as on SRH940 and other models. I have no idea how the ATH's and Beats are connected so I cannot comment.

 

I reviewed it a few pages back http://www.head-fi.org/t/533716/shure-srh-940/3405

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello SRH940 brothers in arms,

 

I have been contemplating writing a post like this for weeks, but because I am not in the market to make cables for strangers so I've been reluctant to do so. But after my recent experience with my beloved SRH940, I feel compelled to do this. I feel like I owe it to all of you who also love SRH940...

 

I've dabbled in making my own custom cable for SRH940 and made a pure silver cable as well as now settled on a cheaper, but still reasonable spec Silver Plated Copper cable, stranded with teflon coating. The differences from original straight or curled cable sound quality wise is phenomenal! The difference is extremely noticeable and substantial in all aspects, mids, bass. I attribute this to the very thin original cable, I've cut one up and inspected it and can't tell you how disappointed I was...

 

Anyway, I can make these cables for anyone who is interested. One thing straight: I am not trying to make money out of this, I want to do it out of the kindness of my heart honestly, feeling that you guys really need to hear SRH940 with custom cables, and what you're all missing out on. I want to do this for head-fi members because I've gotten so much from Head-Fi, I believe I should give some back sometimes... It's my hobby, and since you guys share this hobby too, I feel I owe it to you to...

 

Now with that out of the way, I can make them any length you want, with any connectors you want, in any colour sleeve you want. I can even make it red like those beats cables you see around (if that takes your fancy). I plan to just offer plain black with black plugs but there are many options. I am thinking that in total the cost will be ~$50 for the cable for all materials plus postage to anywhere in the world. It takes about 2 hours to make one cable no joke so I am not going to get rich anytime soon. So for now I am only going to offer to the first 10 interested SRH940 owning members (don't fancy spending all my spare time on cables making no profit!!!)

 

EDIT: Here is what I wrote months back when mucking around with custom cables: http://www.head-fi.org/t/533716/shure-srh-940/3405

 

What I want to know is how many of you are interested in this, if at all? If noone is interested then pfft no worries, saves me time and hassle. If you are interested, PM me and I will take it from there, including pics and cable options. Please, no time wasters. If you do not want a custom cable for your SRH940 and are not willing to pay $50pp then don't PM me!

 

I was thinking, if interest is high, I can let one custom made cable do a world tour of Head-Fi so you can all try it out yourselves. Anyway PM me

 

Mods: Sorry if I am breaking any rules, but I really am not trying to make a buck from this. $50 is really cutting it fine on my own costs! Solder, plugs, and most of all time.

 

Here are the optional sleeve colours available for the cable: http://de.mdpc-x.com/mdpc-sleeve/sleeve.htm

 

 

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As promised here are the pictures. First few are of the cable itself.

 

 

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(Click on the pics to see bigger pics)

 

The next pic shows the original cable on the left with the three very thin strands. The right is the teflon coated, stranded, Silver Plated Copper cable that I propose to use in the $50 cable, there will be 3 of these in a braid, then sleeved. The connector is a gold plated Sennheiser branded plug but the proposed plug will be a black Furutech gold plated plug which I feel is better quality. The other side is a customised 2.5mm connector that slips into the Shure connector via friction. It is very secure and does not need twist lock action to secure it. No damage or modification to the headphones themselves. I use Cardas Quad Eutectic solder. I propose a 1.5meter (5ft) length

 

 

1000

 
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The only improvement I was able to come up with was to use a razor blade to cut off the two "sides" that stick out and get in the way. (These sides would be used to wrap around the Grado stock headband for which this replacement was intended, but they are too narrow for the Shure.) With the sides removed, the fit is okay, though not quite perfect

 

How does it look after removing the two sides? I was going to do this at first but I was worried if there were going to be more things sticking out after cutting it, making it even more uglier.


The sides cut cleanly, no fibers or anything too unsightly. However the band's velour stretches easily, and my scissors had a hard time cutting the material so I turned to a razor blade. That did the job.
post #3561 of 3844
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Quick update on the Cable World Tour, it seems postal service is very very slow. I sent BobJS the cable on Monday 30th July and he has still not received the cable! Will update when he receives it.

 

If it has not turned up by next week I will have to make other arrangements...

 

I just got home..... the cable did indeed arrive today; start the clock .... I'll be playing with it over the weekend

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I just got home..... the cable did indeed arrive today; start the clock .... I'll be playing with it over the weekend

Great news Bob! I was getting worried that it was lost in the wild!

Please le us know how you go.
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I just got home..... the cable did indeed arrive today; start the clock .... I'll be playing with it over the weekend

 

Good to hear! C:

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Do you think it will be possible to put me in the third of the list instead of second? The unexpected delay.. :(
I will be going to camping next week for 4 days and I don't want to miss any golden opportunities..

It's totally fine if it can't..

post #3565 of 3844
BobJS will only send it next friday so at the earliest Monday 19th so I think you're safe?
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Oh yeah.. you're right. Yeah I think I will be pretty safe. :D

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Hey Bob,

 

Good on you for at least being willing. No obligation to buy at this stage, will add you to the "World Tour" list

 

 

SRH940 Custom Cable World Tour List:

Rhuidk

John In Cali

BobJS

 

 

 

As promised here are the pictures. First few are of the cable itself.

 

 

400400400

(Click on the pics to see bigger pics)

 

The next pic shows the original cable on the left with the three very thin strands. The right is the teflon coated, stranded, Silver Plated Copper cable that I propose to use in the $50 cable, there will be 3 of these in a braid, then sleeved. The connector is a gold plated Sennheiser branded plug but the proposed plug will be a black Furutech gold plated plug which I feel is better quality. The other side is a customised 2.5mm connector that slips into the Shure connector via friction. It is very secure and does not need twist lock action to secure it. No damage or modification to the headphones themselves. I use Cardas Quad Eutectic solder. I propose a 1.5meter (5ft) length

 

 

1000

 

As the lead-off hitter in the Custom Cable World Tour, I'm ready to make a few comments.......

 

I listened carefully over the weekend to high bit-rate selections and a few CDs through my E17 DAC/amp.  I wanted to be sure of what I would say before I posted.  Well, this is a 2-parter.  Here's what I was initially going to say:

 

When I first listened to the custom cable I thought, "Wow, this sounds really good!".  Then I swapped the stock cable in and thought.... "Hey wait..... THIS sounds really good too!"  All weekend long I did A/B tests.  I must have swapped the cables 60 or 70 times.  As I PM'd to Lillee :  "I was initially wowed, but upon more careful listening I believe I've discovered the power of the placebo effect.  Careful A/B testing leads me to believe there's no difference between the silver and stock cables.  But it's very difficult to tell for sure without an actual A/B switch to switch back and forth in mid-music, so to speak."

 

The skeptic has spoken.

 

Well, TODAY, I continued experimenting, though with a new wrinkle: I just put into service a new USB DAC/amp, the dragonfly.  You can read about it in this thread here if you're interested. I listened only to CDs because I didn't want anything less than lossless (or at least 44.1 khz).  Well, I'll be damned.  The skeptic has fallen. I believe I can hear a real difference now between the custom and stock cables.  The obvious difference is the clarity of the highs.  After listening to a CD through the custom cable, going back to stock and re-listening makes it sound slightly muffled (by comparison).  I'm guessing I needed a higher base SQ to detect a difference.  So now, my plan before sending the cable off to the next recipient on the world tour :

 

1. Continue listening; confirm what I'm hearing.

2. Recruit my wife to help with a single-blind test to see how consistently I identify the "better" sounding cable.  In another room, she'll flip a coin to determine which cable to plug in, and we'll try to eliminate all other clues which might give away which cable is present.

3. Do some research to try to explain the phenomenon.  This is NOT what I expected.

 

Bob
 

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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post

 

As the lead-off hitter in the Custom Cable World Tour, I'm ready to make a few comments.......

 

I listened carefully over the weekend to high bit-rate selections and a few CDs through my E17 DAC/amp.  I wanted to be sure of what I would say before I posted.  Well, this is a 2-parter.  Here's what I was initially going to say:

 

When I first listened to the custom cable I thought, "Wow, this sounds really good!".  Then I swapped the stock cable in and thought.... "Hey wait..... THIS sounds really good too!"  All weekend long I did A/B tests.  I must have swapped the cables 60 or 70 times.  As I PM'd to Lillee :  "I was initially wowed, but upon more careful listening I believe I've discovered the power of the placebo effect.  Careful A/B testing leads me to believe there's no difference between the silver and stock cables.  But it's very difficult to tell for sure without an actual A/B switch to switch back and forth in mid-music, so to speak."

 

The skeptic has spoken.

 

Well, TODAY, I continued experimenting, though with a new wrinkle: I just put into service a new USB DAC/amp, the dragonfly.  You can read about it in this thread here if you're interested. I listened only to CDs because I didn't want anything less than lossless (or at least 44.1 khz).  Well, I'll be damned.  The skeptic has fallen. I believe I can hear a real difference now between the custom and stock cables.  The obvious difference is the clarity of the highs.  After listening to a CD through the custom cable, going back to stock and re-listening makes it sound slightly muffled (by comparison).  I'm guessing I needed a higher base SQ to detect a difference.  So now, my plan before sending the cable off to the next recipient on the world tour :

 

1. Continue listening; confirm what I'm hearing.

2. Recruit my wife to help with a single-blind test to see how consistently I identify the "better" sounding cable.  In another room, she'll flip a coin to determine which cable to plug in, and we'll try to eliminate all other clues which might give away which cable is present.

3. Do some research to try to explain the phenomenon.  This is NOT what I expected.

 

Bob
 


Interesting observations. What was your setup before using the AudioQuest Dragonfly?

 

I use a Fiio E7 with my MacBook right now since I'm not ready to shell out $200+ for a DAC/amp yet. I'm not too Shure if I would be able to detect the differences should I use the custom cable.

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Thanks Bob for your frank and honest comments. As I mentioned in earlier posts and to PMs to interested members, don't expect miracles, you must sort out all of your source gear first such as running lossless music through a decent DAC and AMP setup, as well as interconnect cables etc to hear any appreciable gains. The gains will be minimal on low a low end setup, but scales up very well the higher the specs your setup is. 

 

To put it in other terms, in the higher end of things, the stock cable is holding back the SRH940s.

 

Also the best way to discern any upgrades is to use the new cable exclusively for awhile and switch back to the stock cable. I have found that this the best method for revealing any differences. It takes time, a week at least.

 

Miceblue, you are welcome to trial the cable completely obligation free, but as you yourself have concluded, you may need a more resolving source setup to take advantage of any cable upgrades...

 

 

 

SRH940 Custom Cable World Tour List:

BobJS <-- Cable is here, leaves Friday

Rhuidk

John In Cali

CB3874

Thunder240

Miceblue (tentative)

 

Already paid for outright:

totozero


Edited by Lillee - 8/13/12 at 6:29pm
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Interesting observations. What was your setup before using the AudioQuest Dragonfly?

 

I use a Fiio E7 with my MacBook right now since I'm not ready to shell out $200+ for a DAC/amp yet. I'm not too Shure if I would be able to detect the differences should I use the custom cable.


I was using a Fiio E17, which I previously (and still!) love.  I think the dragonfly is a step up from the Fiio, but to be fair, I should go back and repeat my experiment using the Fiio E17 with lossless material only.  I DID try ~190 or ~256 kpbs through the Dragonfly and found it extremely difficult to discern a consistent difference between the 2 cables.  From my experience, if you're not using lossless, or near-loss material, the other variables won't make as much of a difference.

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