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Dynamic Range

The dynamic range refers to the difference in levels between the smallest and the largest playable sounds. The graph below shows the dynamic range at 1kHz.

 

Dynamic Range (E-MU 1616M)

Figure 6. Dynamic Range

 

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Chart 3. Dynamic Range

 

A larger dynamic range allows for more variance in the loudness, and in turn a clearer sound. Equipments with higher dynamic ranges present crystal clear sounds out of complete silence, while those with lower dynamic ranges are dulled and somewhat foggy.

 

 

 


 

 

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This area doesn't have too much in relation to the frequency response - it pertains to the efficiency of the product, which is a measure of how intense a sound is produced when input a given signal. Generally, more efficient units are able to express finer sounds, and will benefit even more (in fineness) from a response peak around 7kHz.

 

http://en.goldenears.net/index.php?mid=KB_Columns&document_srl=464

 


 

 

^So for example, in the driver, you have the magnet efficiency, and the stiffness to weight ratio in the diaphragm, like Titanium versus paper.

 

 

For example what is the main difference between the Denon D5000, D7000, and Fostex TH900?  The magnet design.


Edited by kiteki - 7/4/12 at 6:55pm
post #3497 of 3844
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

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This area doesn't have too much in relation to the frequency response - it pertains to the efficiency of the product, which is a measure of how intense a sound is produced when input a given signal. Generally, more efficient units are able to express finer sounds, and will benefit even more (in fineness) from a response peak around 7kHz.

Still confusing, but I think a peak could be assimilated to an abrupt change in dynamics.

post #3498 of 3844

Hey guys,

 

Sorry I'm late to this party, but I just got pair of these (with presumably only ~ 10 hours on them), and I just had an initial listen for about 15 minutes.

 

Ever since I bought these from a Head-Fi'er a couple of days ago, I started reading this thread awaiting delivery, and only made it about halfway through so far (through Sept ' 11) so forgive me if I missed anything critical.

 

Not surprisingly, I was expecting the worst --- and I'm pleasantly surprised.  I'm listening from my Fiio E17 DAC/amp, and right off the bat I was impressed with the bass.  Perfect!! Not bloated, and most certainly not anemic.  I was terrified what to expect after reading this thread!!  I haven't yet tried this unamped out of my ipod Touch or Sansa Fuze, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's where the bass might sound thin.

 

Once again, I've only been listening for about 15 minutes, but I can hear that they're a tad .... crispy.  I don't know if the sound will change with time, but I just EQ'd the treble down a tick, and these sound fantastic --- couldn't be more pleased for an initial impression.

 

I just wanted to chime in my initial impression, and back to more listening and maybe I'll finish reading this thread --- you folks were going at each other pretty good back last September.  You're all good buddies now, right?

post #3499 of 3844
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post

Hey guys,

 

Sorry I'm late to this party, but I just got pair of these (with presumably only ~ 10 hours on them), and I just had an initial listen for about 15 minutes.

 

Ever since I bought these from a Head-Fi'er a couple of days ago, I started reading this thread awaiting delivery, and only made it about halfway through so far (through Sept ' 11) so forgive me if I missed anything critical.

 

Not surprisingly, I was expecting the worst --- and I'm pleasantly surprised.  I'm listening from my Fiio E17 DAC/amp, and right off the bat I was impressed with the bass.  Perfect!! Not bloated, and most certainly not anemic.  I was terrified what to expect after reading this thread!!  I haven't yet tried this unamped out of my ipod Touch or Sansa Fuze, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's where the bass might sound thin.

 

Once again, I've only been listening for about 15 minutes, but I can hear that they're a tad .... crispy.  I don't know if the sound will change with time, but I just EQ'd the treble down a tick, and these sound fantastic --- couldn't be more pleased for an initial impression.

 

I just wanted to chime in my initial impression, and back to more listening and maybe I'll finish reading this thread --- you folks were going at each other pretty good back last September.  You're all good buddies now, right?

 

Ya the crispyness calms down in burn-in.  I kinda like the crispy though...

post #3500 of 3844
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I know this was a while ago, but is this a serious equaliztion.... or are you just doing one of these?   ^   ^

 

?

 

BTW,  I was forced last night to listen to my CD sources as some of my compressed files weren't up to snuff.  About an hour into my listening something marvelous happened.  I stopped being in awe of the incredible sound being produced and got swept away by the music.   So, for me, these are not only amazing instruments of reproduction, but, more importantly, just a delight to listen to.

post #3501 of 3844
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post

 

 

I know this was a while ago, but is this a serious equaliztion.... or are you just doing one of these?   ^   ^

 

?

 

BTW,  I was forced last night to listen to my CD sources as some of my compressed files weren't up to snuff.  About an hour into my listening something marvelous happened.  I stopped being in awe of the incredible sound being produced and got swept away by the music.   So, for me, these are not only amazing instruments of reproduction, but, more importantly, just a delight to listen to.

Pretty sure it is a joke.  Because i think that there are few in the world who could stand a 35 decibel drop from low bass and highs to mids. 100% insane. Even if they a fun/V shaped sound signature lover, that is well over a bit too much.

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

The presentation of details in hd800 & srh940 is very different.
In the hd800, you have some times details that "pop up" in 3D. I  mean , it's partly thanks to the great stereo separation that details becomes obvious.
The hd800 have also an emphasis in treble, that I  think participate to sensation of being detailed.
However unlike the srh940, the treble emphasis is very smooth, and can be less annoying.
Regarding being "congested",  the srh940 are much less congested if you mod them by increasing depth of ear cups.
In term of pure enjoyment, I  don't find the hd800 vastly superior. If only the srh940 got better built quality,  that cheap plastic sucks (cracks).
I  like a bit  sizzle I  admit, perhaps the hd700 are more for me.

Interesting, I have found the SRH940 and the HD800 to be neck and neck when it comes to micro detail retrieval. To the untrained ear, the HD800 make the details easier to listen due to the better instrument separation. I might have to give the nudge to the SRH940 though, but you really need to listen.

Another good contender for detail is the MDR-SA5000, it's in between the SRH940 and HD800, you have half the instrument separation of the HD800 but it also might have more detail.

Can anyone tell me if the SRH1440/1840 is more detailed than the SRH940?
post #3503 of 3844
Hi all,

Apologies if this is covered already somewhere in the middle of the thread -- I read through the first 10 or so pages after the release of the SRH 940 and then the last several pages.

Prior to buying the 940s (about 2 mobths ago), I owned 2 other sets of around-the-ear phones, Senn HD 575 (open) and a set of Panny's (closed -- model number escapes me). I'd gotten fed up with the Panny's mushy sound, and resolved to replace them with something with excellent detail. Although I love my HD 575, I wasn't looking for the same sound. I tried out several of head-fi's frequently recommended closed around-the-ear headphones at various dealers, and decided the 940s were what I was looking for.

Sound-wise, I have absolutely no regrets, but comfort is another story. The headband on my Senns is fantastic, so comfortable, with just the right amount of clamping pressure. When I tried the 940s at the dealer, I could tell they clamped a little tighter, but I decided I was okay with that. After all, I'd use these mostly at the office, and I wanted good isolation. What I didn't realize was how the headband would start to feel like a rock on my head after an hour of being worn. Also, maybe it's the shape of my head, but the tight clamp forces me to tilt the phones forward to keep them from sliding backwards off of my ears, and I can't help thinking that the tilt is degrading the sound quality.

Bottom line is that the headband is driving me nuts. Have any of you tried modding the headband at all to make it more comfortable or to lightening the clamp? I'm wondering if wrapping it in some soft memory foam might solve the comfort issue? Not sure what a mod to lighten the clamp would entail. And I'm mindful of the cracks that others have reported. No cracks yet on mine, but I wouldn't want to stretch the band out and cause the phones to crack in the process.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
post #3504 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Thunder240 View Post

Also, maybe it's the shape of my head, but the tight clamp forces me to tilt the phones forward to keep them from sliding backwards off of my ears, and I can't help thinking that the tilt is degrading the sound quality.

This might actually improve the sound quality.  See in my review how I suggest to put the headband forward:

http://www.head-fi.org/products/shure-srh-940/reviews/5994

 

 Not sure what a mod to lighten the clamp would entail.

 

If the clamping force is too strong, you might return them to the seller before the srh940 begin to crack (or even break).

There's an issue for people having too big head, and I  wouldn't tempt the devil.


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 7/20/12 at 12:37pm
post #3505 of 3844
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

This might actually improve the sound quality.  See in my review how I suggest to put the headband forward:

http://www.head-fi.org/products/shure-srh-940/reviews/5994

 

 

If the clamping force is too strong, you might return them to the seller before the srh940 begin to crack (or even break).

There's an issue for people having too big head, and I  wouldn't tempt the devil.

 

Mehdi, just read your review. That's really interesting -- I'll try playing around with position on my head to experience this for myself. It will be a happy coincidence if the tilted position that I've found it necessary to place the phones on my head to prevent the clamp from causing them to slide backward happens to be the optimal listening position.

 

Regarding rturning the phones to the seller, I'm afraid I've waited too long. I do have the manufacturer's warranty, so if cracks form on my phones I'll make a warranty claim like others have done. However any mod that I make to improve comfort needs to be reversible to avoid someone making up an excuse either that my mod caused the cracks  and has voided the warranty.

 

I think for the moment I'm gonna look for some soft foam that I can roll around the headband. I won't do anything  regarding the clamping force until I've first experimented with the position of the earcups per your review. And of course if anyone reading this has some suggestions of things to try, I'd love some ideas. Worst case if I can't find a way make these phones more comfortable, I may have to offer them up for sale, which would be really unfortunate since the sound is just what I was looking for in a closed headphone.

post #3506 of 3844

I'm really sorry to post this on this thread, as this isn't really related to 940, but this is like the only thread I have been following so far and I don't know where I should post it in which section. 

Just a simple question, is there a website that focuses on speakers instead of headphones? Sort of like head-fi.org and headfonia.com idea but mostly about speaker threads/reviews. 

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How does Shure 940 compare to AKG K550 in term of bass, sound stage, mids & high?

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Originally Posted by PleasantNoise View Post

here you go
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hifi+speaker+forum


That's hysterical .... never saw that before.  I'm going to be a one trick pony for the next week .......

post #3510 of 3844

Meanwhile, I can't stop listening to these headphones since I got them last week.  Absolutely fantastic.  Two unfortunate side effects :

 

1. I found myself going back and re-ripping CDs to a higher bit-rate.

 

2. All my other HPs, IEMs have lost detail.  What an odd coincidence ......

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