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post #3391 of 3844
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Originally Posted by john57 View Post

I am not sure on what you mean by this statement:

 

"The srh940 I think are ill conceived, it takes very little to "save" their sound signature "

 

I THINK he's saying that people are too quick to write them off and that they can be dramatically improved with small mods.  For instance, his rope mod that he's mentioned 3284958043985x in this thread :P

post #3392 of 3844
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Originally Posted by skyline315 View Post

 

I THINK he's saying that people are too quick to write them off and that they can be dramatically improved with small mods.  For instance, his rope mod that he's mentioned 3284958043985x in this thread :P


The rope mod was good, not so much from a silly 'massively better bass/soundstage/whatever' point of view, maybe theres a bit to it, but it's not much of a difference really... but more in that it means my ears don't touch the inside of the cups anymore. so more comfortable listening=winning.

post #3393 of 3844
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Originally Posted by skyline315 View Post

 

I THINK he's saying that people are too quick to write them off and that they can be dramatically improved with small mods.  For instance, his rope mod that he's mentioned 3284958043985x in this thread :P

 

The srh940 are obviously ill conceived, because by default (i.e without any mod) headband positioning affects sounds. And if the ear cups had more depth, at the very least the headphone would be more comfy. Why do the ears stick inside the earpad ?
I think that ears that touch inside of earcup, also affects negatively the sound.
You see people after a quick listen having contradicting reviews, because by default
two factors affects sounds: source & headband positioning.
From a good source or DAC, the treble should be more refined /detailed.
I don't think the ipod is good enough (at least for the treble area , it's quite easy to mess it).

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Originally Posted by PleasantNoise View Post


The rope mod was good, not so much from a silly 'massively better bass/soundstage/whatever' point of view, maybe theres a bit to it, but it's not much of a difference really... but more in that it means my ears don't touch the inside of the cups anymore. so more comfortable listening=winning.


Well, YMMV regarding the sound changes. Perhaps I was more sensitive to the changes because
I used the xonar stx as source (very detailed).
But thanks for pointing out, that the comfort is improved with the mod.
If you are skeptical regarding the sound change, do it at the very least for the comfort.

post #3394 of 3844

Reporting a recent raving review for the fun. User lilee finding the srh940 more neutral/ uncolored than hd600 biggrin.gif.

 

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I've made a trek to Jaben Audio in Singapore [...]
Anyway I tried out many headphones, Hd600's, T70's, Ultrasone Edition 8's, a few akg's and others. The only ones that sounded neutral and uncoloured to me were the Edition 8's [...]
and the SRH940's which I walked away with.
[...] I have to say, get a better amp and stop running them straight out of your iPod cause aside froma very slight lack in mid bass slam, they are very very good bass wise.

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/550563/shure-srh-940-reviews-and-appreciation-thread/150#post_8383112

 

So from very bright headphone, and mid bass lacking headphone, you have an almost opposite

praising wink.gif.

I told you these headphone are wicked ...

post #3395 of 3844
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

 

The srh940 are obviously ill conceived, because by default (i.e without any mod) headband positioning affects sounds. 

 

I hear that a lot, but haven't noticed it myself.  When the headband has hurt my head in the past, I've had to reposition them on my head, and haven't noticed any sonic changes.

 

Maybe my ears just aren't sensitive to it.  *shrug*

post #3396 of 3844
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Originally Posted by skyline315 View Post

 

I hear that a lot, but haven't noticed it myself.  When the headband has hurt my head in the past, I've had to reposition them on my head, and haven't noticed any sonic changes.

 

Maybe my ears just aren't sensitive to it.  *shrug*

It doesn't necessarily jump on your face, more mid bass, and tamed highs.

I  noticed the change while listening to the album "rastaman vibrations" by bob marley.

It was enough obvious, I  went from something painful (fatiguing highs, inaudible bass line),

to something enough enjoyable. Also, I  liked better the soundstage.

post #3397 of 3844
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

Reporting a recent raving review for the fun. User lilee finding the srh940 more neutral/ uncolored than hd600 biggrin.gif .


http://www.head-fi.org/t/550563/shure-srh-940-reviews-and-appreciation-thread/150#post_8383112

So from very bright headphone, and mid bass lacking headphone, you have an almost opposite
praising wink.gif .
I told you these headphone are wicked ...

I have to interject, I am not so much raving about the SRH940 as I am saying for their price range they are excellent and hard to beat. I mean I would love to drop $2k on Edition 8's but I need closed phones and at this price range they are a winner. They are better to my ears than the DT1350's that I own (which will be on sale soon btw) and they retain the same house Shure sound that I am used to from my 535LE's. I have also been using Shure iems for the better part of the last 10 years and lets just say my ears are well burned in to them.

I also mean that the amount of claims of lacking bass etc etc to me are unfounded and blown out of proportion, to me. I think they are quite darn good for (at least) 1/5th the price of Edition 8's.

Open caan of worms: I am often skeptical of "reviewers" who give final verdicts on headphones yet are running sources that are often not what I would call HiFi such as direct out of iPod or runnng mp3s. It then does not surprise me that some think it enough bass, not enough bass, bright, dark, thick, thin, round, flat. Too many variables to consider, setup, listening preferences, source material, recording and mastering of tracks, amp, dac, cables.......

From my view, running only lossless music from the Fostex HP-P1, the SRH940's are a winner for $300. Especially with the rope mod. Only bested by (surprise surprise) more expensive headphones. Predictable outcome.

Regarding hd600 having colouration, what I mean is they have the Sennheiser house sound and to my Shure ears, that means they are coloured. Either way, they are open and I am not in the market for open headphones.

If it is one thing I've learnt for myself years ago is to read all I can but in the end I can only trust my own ears, so what I say or what you say should not have too much consequences to person C because person C's ears are wired differently again...
Edited by Lillee - 5/18/12 at 7:49am
post #3398 of 3844

Finally I bought the hd800, partly because of this thread (many comparisons with the srh940) , and partly because they were available on a local store (and usually this kind of stuff is rare in my country) .

I'm running them from my xonar stx biggrin.gif. But before I've tested them on the store with a much more expensive amp (a 900$ harmon kardmon thing;  don't ask me  the model) and it's quite similar IMHO.

Although  I can't say the hd800 are worth their price, I  found them enough enjoyable to keep them.

 

The hd800 have the  obvious "big soundstage" , that sounds very natural or at least to my taste (just like two speakers, ideally positioned).   But it's a double sided sword, it doesn't fit well with every kind of music. It does wonders at least with classical music.
They are not the most comfy headphones ever, my hd595 are more comfy, but the comfort is better than for the srh940 (and they are supposed to be more robust than the hd595).

 

What surprised me the most with the hd800, is that I  was expecting something  bright, and sometimes painful, but it was just definitely not the case (serial number : 13xxx if that matters) . They are very smooth, and easy to listen. I  remind how I've suffered initially with my stock srh940 plugged on my xonar stx  (asking myself, are they nuts to release something like that ?). Initially I noticed a treble peak on the srh940, a fatiguing emphasis on transients, but then I played with headband position  etc... etc...
I can't say that the hd800  sounds for me more detailed than  the srh940 at stock  , but they have a different presentation of details, and essentially it's more natural.  But I remind how I was impressed to listen to Rammstein on the srh940 at begin, I was mesmerized by the amount of details I could listen on tracks like "mein Teil", and there was a kind of "symphony of noize" , hard hitting percussions, and that was very involving . So the hd800 is able to reveal lot of details, but the stock srh940 is able of some aggressive highs that fits better some genre like industrial. In comparison hd800 stays polite for my taste, even if you are looking for pure violence.
 

The area I  found the less impressive on the hd800 is the bass. It's sounds overall very neutral, you hear the thump, but on some genre like techno, the hd800 doesn't fit the bill. If I  boost the bass with an eq, it's better, but it still doesn't reach the level of excitement I'm looking for. That seems silly , but after trying the hd25,  the hd800 (and less relevant examples) , I  still like better the thumping bass  of my regular senn IE7 iems. Maybe,  if I play with some dsp .... Usually when I use my senn IE7, it's with the  cowon, with heavily tweaked jeteffects (mach3bass is a marvel).

 

The last critic before I speak of qualities wink.gif. The sub bass of hd800. I hear the sub bass, very clean , but it lacks some visceral quality. I mean , if you listen to the cd heresy by lustmord, which is supposed to be "dark ambient", you are wondering if you are not listening to some "new age" instead. On the  modded srh940, there was some "scary vibrations"  I don't feel with the hd800.
Not a hint of fear with the hd800. Maybe the srh940 extends to much lower frequencies , or it's the soundstage of the hd800 that kills the effect.

 

Now here are the reasons to listen in the hd800, instead of the srh940.

Beside the soundstage, the very balanced frequency response, I found the hd800 very smooth and clean.

The hd595 offers smooth sound too, but to this the hd800 adds  more impact on bass, and more details overall,  cleaner sound.

Smoothess &  detailled this seems two opposite qualities, and the hd800 manage paradoxically to do both.

Maybe the hd595 without the boring factor . Also the srh940 sounds sometimes a bit thin compared to the hd800.

Whatever I throw in the hd800, it sounds "pleasant"  and relatively polite for me; they are perfect for classical, but I  will experiment with other genres that hd800 doesn't handle in "the intended way".


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 5/24/12 at 7:40pm
post #3399 of 3844

I made a mistake buying the Denon D5000, I listened for half an hour in the last week, why do all full-size headphones bore me?  I haven't felt excited by anything since the SRH-940, A2000X and T5p. =[ (last year)

 

My local Hi-Fi store should have the SRH-1440 / 1840 soon though, still need to try the KRK's and T50RP lol.

post #3400 of 3844

Just bought the SRH940 again due to past good memories, and it arrived today with the SRH840.

 

I personally think the SRH840 is more comfortable, built better, and looks better. Sound is a toss up.


Edited by Katun - 5/25/12 at 3:20pm
post #3401 of 3844
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

I made a mistake buying the Denon D5000, I listened for half an hour in the last week, why do all full-size headphones bore me?  I haven't felt excited by anything since the SRH-940, A2000X and T5p. =[ (last year)

My local Hi-Fi store should have the SRH-1440 / 1840 soon though, still need to try the KRK's and T50RP lol.

If you like the 940 as much as it sounds I suspect you will LOVE the 1440.
post #3402 of 3844
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post


If you like the 940 as much as it sounds I suspect you will LOVE the 1440.

 

Funny, I keep seeing various threads and posts all over the place on the 940 and 840, as if people are oblivious to the new 1440 and 1840.  Sure, they cost a little more but both models are meant to offer an improvement.  Maybe they should be considered a bit more than they are normal_smile%20.gif.

post #3403 of 3844
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Originally Posted by BrainFood View Post

 

Funny, I keep seeing various threads and posts all over the place on the 940 and 840, as if people are oblivious to the new 1440 and 1840.  Sure, they cost a little more but both models are meant to offer an improvement.  Maybe they should be considered a bit more than they are normal_smile%20.gif.

 

I just think people glance over them due to all the serious competition. Got the D5000, HE-400, HD650, and the HE-500 up top.

post #3404 of 3844
I think the initial impressions and posts suggested the 1440 in particular was just an open 940 which I feel does the 1440 an injustice as it does change up the signature over the 940, many of those changes are the areas people often had issues with in regards to the 940.
post #3405 of 3844
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I just think people glance over them due to all the serious competition. Got the D5000, HE-400, HD650, and the HE-500 up top.

 

 

      I see what you mean. Still....


Edited by BrainFood - 5/26/12 at 5:56am
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