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post #2431 of 3844

 

I agree FR can lead to preconceptions / expectation bias, that's why I try not to look at FR until after I've heard any particular headphone.

 

 

That said, when comparing the Sony EX700 and EX1000 and looking at their FR, I decided the FR wasn't telling me anything at all.

 

 

Thanks electropop I have to check out the 8400 and T50RP's one day.

post #2432 of 3844

I love the KRKs and kept the 6400 between the 6400 and 8400. IMO though sadly it doesn't sound like the 6400 has more bass than the SRH-940 to my ears. Probably just more sub-bass. I imagine the 8400 does have more mid-bass though.

I prefer the KNS-6400, but the SRH-940 would perhaps be better for someone who just wants to enjoy their music and not analyze it. With my amp, the SRH-940 had fuller sounding mids that had more texture. A lot warmer sounding (yes, the SRH-940 was somewhat warm to me confused_face_2.gif). I felt the KRKs were much clearer, have a larger soundstage and are more detailed though. The SRH-940 does seem to have much more forward mids. The mids on the 6400 sound somewhat slightly forward and the 8400 are more flat or more neutral sounding. Very relaxed.

 

I was shocked the KNS-6400 held up so well to the SRH-940 as a studio monitor. BTW I think SRH-940 has the edge for female vocals (why I wanted to try the SRH-940), but the 6400 holds up very well.

 

I think the KNS-8400 would be a good alternative to the SRH-940. Too bad nobody has really compared them yet.


 

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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

I'm not really one for believing in graphs, but some of you may be interested in the KRK KNS 6400, in accordance with the most common complaints of the 940 FR in this thread it has less 10kHz and more mid-bass.

 

graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2951&graphID[]=3101

 



 

post #2433 of 3844
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

 

You mean there's some classical music with some serious bass ?



http://www.amazon.com/Igor-Stravinsky-Firebird-Nightingale-Spring/dp/B0000015A6/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322933793&sr=1-1-catcorr

 

my favorite is the 5th song.. theres  lots of whammm ... n phruuuuuuummmm.... pure excitement. gs1000.gif

 

try playing no.23 in the amazon mp3 sample.... u should be feeeling it.

 
 

Edited by Lorspeaker - 12/3/11 at 9:59am
post #2434 of 3844
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

I love the KRKs and kept the 6400 between the 6400 and 8400. IMO though sadly it doesn't sound like the 6400 has more bass than the SRH-940 to my ears. Probably just more sub-bass. I imagine the 8400 does have more mid-bass though.

I prefer the KNS-6400, but the SRH-940 would perhaps be better for someone who just wants to enjoy their music and not analyze it. With my amp, the SRH-940 had fuller sounding mids that had more texture. A lot warmer sounding (yes, the SRH-940 was somewhat warm to me confused_face_2.gif). I felt the KRKs were much clearer, have a larger soundstage and are more detailed though. The SRH-940 does seem to have much more forward mids. The mids on the 6400 sound somewhat slightly forward and the 8400 are more flat or more neutral sounding. Very relaxed.

 

I was shocked the KNS-6400 held up so well to the SRH-940 as a studio monitor. BTW I think SRH-940 has the edge for female vocals (why I wanted to try the SRH-940), but the 6400 holds up very well.

 

I think the KNS-8400 would be a good alternative to the SRH-940. Too bad nobody has really compared them yet.


 



 

I think I might be the only one who has owned both.

 

I've never thought the SRH-940 would be that impressive as a stand alone studio monitor.  Both the SP-1 and KRK KNS-8400 present the music in a more balanced format, and the SP-1 does have more detail to my ears.  The sparkly treble of the 940 might make it easier to pick up some detail in the upper mids compared to the SP-1, but the SP-1 really does a better job throughout the rest of the spectrum - even matching the 940 in the upper mids (it just isn't shoved at you like the upper mids of the 940 are).

 

As far as the KRK goes, it sounded much more like the SP-1 than the SRH-940.  I know people say "XYZ sounded really neutral to my ears" about headphones too often, when in reality (at least in my experience) not that many truly neutral headphones exist.  The KNS-8400 got really, really close to my ears.  IMHO, it kills the SRH-940 as a monitor.  Not saying anything about the 8400 being a better headphone overall... that has too many variables to account for.

 

Also, the KRK KNS-8400 can be found for as low as 120 USD here in the US.  Ergonomically they are sweet as well.  A steal if you ask me...

 

I can elaborate more on the sonic differences between the KRK and Shure if people would like.  Specific questions would help happy_face1.gif
 

 

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What's SP-1 and have you heard KRKNS-64000?

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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

What's SP-1 and have you heard KRKNS-64000?



The CharterOak SP-1 is a custom version of the old MB Quart QP-450 PRO.  The "updated" version of the QP450 PRO is the GMP450 PRO.  The SP-1 was made somewhere in between in a limited number.  I've tried contacting the company to figure out just how many, but I haven't had any answers yet.  My serial number is 42.

 

I have not head the 6400, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post



http://www.amazon.com/Igor-Stravinsky-Firebird-Nightingale-Spring/dp/B0000015A6/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322933793&sr=1-1-catcorr

 

my favorite is the 5th song.. theres  lots of whammm ... n phruuuuuuummmm.... pure excitement. gs1000.gif

 

try playing no.23 in the amazon mp3 sample.... u should be feeeling it.

 
 

Mmm.... I  was expecting more bass. But the preview from amazon, is small. Beside the little explosion I  hear at begin,
there's a subtle contrabass that I  like (if I'm not mistaken, that's  contrabass) .  I'll see if I  can't get soon some stravinski on my hard drive.

 

Recently I've stumbled on this , while looking for some prokofiev. Very nice:
 

 

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Originally Posted by R-Audiohead View Post



The CharterOak SP-1 is a custom version of the old MB Quart QP-450 PRO.  The "updated" version of the QP450 PRO is the GMP450 PRO.  The SP-1 was made somewhere in between in a limited number.  I've tried contacting the company to figure out just how many, but I haven't had any answers yet.  My serial number is 42.

 

I have not head the 6400, unfortunately.

I  was considering to get a German Maestro headphone before the srh940, but I  renounced because I  didn't like how they looked cheap & not comfy (and I  wanted to spend more biggrin.gif). Never mind, musically you like better  your SP-1 ? (Note: You could try to change ear position on srh940, just I've suggested before , you might be surprised ... ).


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 12/3/11 at 1:27pm
post #2438 of 3844
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Originally Posted by achristilaw View Post

The only "serious" Bass IS in Classical Music (same can be said of Dynamics also)! The one note, over synth-ed drone of contemporary Muz-icky is flagellating at it's very best! 


Oh look, it's startingpopcorn.gif

post #2439 of 3844
Quote:
Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

Mmm.... I  was expecting more bass. But the preview from amazon, is small. Beside the little explosion I  hear at begin,
there's a subtle contrabass that I  like (if I'm not mistaken, that's  contrabass) .  I'll see if I  can't get soon some stravinski on my hard drive.

 

Recently I've stumbled on this , while looking for some prokofiev. Very nice:
 

 

I  was considering to get a German Maestro headphone before the srh940, but I  renounced because I  didn't like how they looked cheap & not comfy (and I  wanted to spend more biggrin.gif). Never mind, musically you like better  your SP-1 ? (Note: You could try to change ear position on srh940, just I've suggested before , you might be surprised ... ).


I also find the comfort superior in the SP-1, but only if you prefer a looser pillow fit to a more secure one.  They certainly aren't as sturdy, but if they're staying as desk cans that should be a problem.

 

The suspension system they utilize at the ear cup is genius if you ask me

 

post #2440 of 3844
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Originally Posted by DVDRey View Post

 

They lack too much bass to be good with rock.

 


That is absolute crap.

 

post #2441 of 3844

 

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That is absolute crap.

 

Rock without some "punch" its not rock, imo, Thanks to respect other's opinions.

post #2442 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post


That is absolute crap.

 

Yeah, they definitely don't lack bass. There's not the thumping of most bassy headphones, but it's balanced enough for general use.

post #2443 of 3844
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Originally Posted by DVDRey View Post

 

 

Rock without some "punch" its not rock, imo, Thanks to respect other's opinions.

A good example of rock that would lack "punch" ?
 

 

post #2444 of 3844
I mean about the rendering of SRH940 with rock.
 
For me, rock requires a larger presence of bass/mid-bass. Its an excellent headphone for many genre, but i don't like it for rock.
post #2445 of 3844

If you find that the srh940 is lacking bass ...
Just use a subwoofer tongue_smile.gif

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/496521/headphones-subwoofer

 

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