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post #2281 of 3844
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If my headphone drivers vibrated when excited by dynamics or level changes, I'd blame the headphones. Otherwise, the analogy makes no sense.

 

Hum, ok I  give up with analogies. Ac500 admitted himself preferring the hd650 for partly being more "easy to listen" .  So either you call the "detailed sound" of srh940 being something closer to the "ultimate hi-fi experience" or a flaw, at the end the ac500 preference just says a lot more to me wink_face.gif.
 

 

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This severely restrict the range of musics good for the srh940. This would mean they are mostly good for classical ?
 


They're extremely good for classical solos. But on orchestras where the bass heavy timpanis boom, I can say it's lifeless.

 

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I prefer the HD650 in many cases since it's superior in everything up to mids. The SRH940 is superior in treble detail and upper mids - and this makes it much much better for female vocals and some electronic music. For everything else, an equalized HD650 tends to be a better experience all around even though it's not quite as detailed. Sometimes it depends on my mood too :) (critical vs easy listening).


Edited by ac500 - 11/25/11 at 4:34pm
post #2284 of 3844
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I prefer the HD650 in many cases since it's superior in everything up to mids. The SRH940 is superior in treble detail and upper mids - and this makes it much much better for female vocals and some electronic music. For everything else, an equalized HD650 tends to be a better experience all around even though it's not quite as detailed. Sometimes it depends on my mood too :) (critical vs easy listening).


smile.gif That is probably why I hated the HD650 so much. It's too laid back.

 

post #2285 of 3844
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Hum, ok I  give up with analogies. Ac500 admitted himself preferring the hd650 for partly being more "easy to listen" .  So either you call the "detailed sound" of srh940 being something closer to the "ultimate hi-fi experience" or a flaw, at the end the ac500 preference just says a lot more to me wink_face.gif.
 

 


It's whatever happens to work for you at a given time. That's why we like our headphones. They're all different and all fun. Some days you like detail, others you want cozy warmth. Imagine having twenty close friends with exactly the same personality?

 

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. Sometimes it depends on my mood too :) (critical vs easy listening).

Yeah , finally it's perhaps better this way, two cans depending of how much you wish to concentrate on the music. My hd595 began to become boring, switched back to the srh940.
But ideally, a single headphone, for critical & easy listening. I  guess the hd650 are more involving than the hd595 , so they might be a good compromise for me.

 

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  I don't like the 650...LOVE the 600 (for many years now). The 600, properly amped is neither slow, dark, veiled or recessed. It's the better balanced (and dynamic) of Sennheisers. Your not going to understand that if you plug it in to an Ipod. Same is true of the 940.

 

  I have mentioned that the failing of this Shure is the pairing with entry level gear. It's price has mandated that...so the failure. I don't have entry-level gear to pair with the 940.

 

  The treble peak (940) in the last octave means that using entry-level gear would be a MISTAKE...BECAUSE it's the extremes that less expensive gear get the most wrong. Linear roughness in the upper-middle-band through treble is the last thing these phones need. 

 

  The gear I do have is for phones such as the Shure 940 (you can punch the Avatar).    I feel Tyll is wrong in His assessment.   We don't have to agree with each other...a "reviewer" or Mom's pumpkin pie (I miss my Mom and Her Punkin' Pie).

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  The treble peak (940) in the last octave means that using entry-level gear would be a MISTAKE...BECAUSE it's the extremes that less expensive gear get the most wrong.

Yeah , used with onboard realtek soundcard, they are junk (well, not better to cheap options). But with the xonar stx I  get hints of what could justify their price.
 

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Linear roughness in the upper-middle-band through treble is the last thing these phones need.

Perhaps because the headphones have themselves an irregular freq response . Irregular highs from  source + irregular high response from headphones = a mess. Well, just a theory.


 

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This severely restrict the range of musics good for the srh940. This would mean they are mostly good for classical ?

I like them for industrial too (nine inch nails, rammstein, marylin manson...). I  could also include massive attack  which is kind of electronic trip hop.


So what, for you, offers a "good synergy", and at an affordable price  (<300$) with the srh940?

 

If you mean the "transient response", sometimes it seems to me that it is exaggerated (at least with the xonar stx)  to the point of sounding sometimes artificial. It's just like a picture that is over-sharpened : it looks more detailed, but it doesn't look natural. Coming from the hd595, to the srh940, is a shocking experience, I was used to something smooth, and now I have something intolerant to anything  just a bit harsh. At the end, I think I prefer something that offers some nice euphony, i.e pleasantness of sounds, rather than an emphasis on details.

 Or hunt the used market and find some synergize-ing, compatible gear to achieve the sound you wish.


 The least expensive amp that I have in house that faired really quite well was the Burson HA160. You can find these "used" for not a bunch of change. It's a softy (sonically) and has enough juice (current capability) to deafen you with out strain or clipping, (while driving "nine inch nails" through the head). Good tone on that amp! Another choice is the HR-2 (Ray Samuels) with the "default" chip set (797's). The last octave on that amp is attenuated per Ray's taste. That's another used choice! I like it with the Lisa's (LaRocco) but they are neutral and would highlight the source...ouch!

 

 If you have digital that isn't tops....find an amp that masks the "trouble areas". It's all a balancing act........ It's probably cheaper to sell them off and snag a phone to suit the taste (and gear) of course! 

 

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Perfect imaging , 3D  sound , while listening to this album on the srh940  (as if sound come from outside).
And enough smooth for my taste.

 

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Talking about sources, I wonder how the Teclast X19HD will synergize with the SRH-940. :)

 

 

50mW+50mW (or 90mW+90mW on high gain) and hardware bass-boost.

 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

Perfect imaging , 3D  sound , while listening to this album on the srh940  (as if sound come from outside).
And enough smooth for my taste.

 

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"Sounds" yummy! For a closed phone you can get an above board "image". Headphones and "image" aren't synonymous. The clean top is responsible for this..... The air up there creates an open soundscape I can live with!

 

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I have a set of the KNS-8400s I can compare directly to the 940 if you'd like.

 

Anything specific?

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So has anyone in this thread bought the KRK Systems KNS 6400 to compare to the SRH-940 yet?

 

 

I like that it has a detachable 3.5mm jack, whereas the Shure jack is proprietary...

 

MalVeaux said the KNS 6400 has "weak bass" but he is a bass lover so I'm looking for more impressions, and personally if I have to sacrifice bass, mids or highs in a headphone it's the bass out the window first for me, you know "r" shaped sound, 'v" and "n" shaped sound suck.

 



 

post #2294 of 3844
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Originally Posted by R-Audiohead View Post


I have a set of the KNS-8400s I can compare directly to the 940 if you'd like.

 

Anything specific?

 


Go for it. :)

 

Okay, how about testing vocals and positioning on this one? - Next Step by BoAon Miracle http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Next+Step/wZkCs?src=5

 

 


Edited by kiteki - 11/26/11 at 4:33am
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Ouch , already a new model coming! But this time, open.

 

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http://www.head-fi.org/t/582064/is-this-the-incoming-shure-open-backed-headphone
 

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