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post #2116 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Digital-Pride View Post

Mr Baka, I believe no one here is implying that the 940 can do some of the same things technically the HD800 can.  But, it is fair to say that they share a similar sound signature as in they both present a very neutral, analytical type sound.



Just a light underhanded toss for this thread in response to this previous post--

 

DO NOT find these headphones to be neutral AT ALL. I do agree that they carry a high level of detail (and not just the treble emphasis kind, but even if it is, the headphone should still be given credit for making everything easier to pick up).  My impressions are closer to Brooko's actually, the only difference is that I preferred the sound signature to the 840.  From an objective-esque standpoint, I think if preference was left aside Brooko and I could probably agree on how it sounds (well, maybe not because I still think they sound a tad cold, unlike Brooko...but still a lot can be agreed upon).  With that being said, I honestly think they are more of a "fun" headphone than a "true to the recording headphone".  The treble is emphasized, and smooth which is supplemented by rich midrange... and while rich is lovely, we all know that a rich character can have a tendency to cover things up, and the midbass is what suffers here.

 

I am in the club that enjoys these headphones, I am not in the club that thinks recessed midbass and emphasized treble is neutral or even analytical. Maybe it is because I find my SP-1 to be SO analytical in comparison to the 940... the 940 has richer treble and more upfront upper mids and recessed midbass in comparison... and this IMO creates a masking effect when comparing to the SP-1 (A closed headphone in a similar price bracket, BTW). I've always thought the SP-1 picked up oodles more detail than the 940 (but not necessarily emphasized detail) because its low mids are not covered up in any way and the highs have no potential to smear together because they are faster and as a result more separated.

 

Maybe the SRH-940 are neutral headphone to some.  Maybe my opinion is ruined by the fact that I have been spoiled with "analytical" headphones like the SP-1 or that I have a listening room with loudspeakers that have an easier time achieving a neutral presentation (this seems to be such a challenge for headphones).  More realistically though, it is likely a result of a lack of consistency with the word neutral.  It doesn't seem like more than a couple people can actually agree on what the term means, and obviously this will lead to a lot of equipment being dubbed "neutral".

 

Not bashing you at all Digital Pride smile.gif, as I know you haven't head the 940 for yourself but are just basing that off of the sum of others posted interpretations.  This post is just one subjective experience with the 940 that I have been very careful about obtaining.

 

My advice if you're looking for a neutral and extremely revealing headphone in a similar price bracket that is closed, the SP-1 or GMP450 PRO might be up your alley (although there are subtle differences between those two sonically).

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@ R-Audiohead

Yes - agree.  You and I are describing the 940 along similar lines.  The like/don't like comes down to individual preference.  It's been funny though - I can't think of many cans that are so polarising - most people either really like or dislike them.  Doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground.

 

Quick questions - what price range do the SP-1 / GMP450 Pro normally go for?  Also - have you heard the FA-003?  From the descriptions I've read, it also sounds quite natural (has been described as close sound to HD600).  If I get a closed can again, but don't go back to the SRH840, then I'm thinking of trying the Fischers.

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Originally Posted by Digital-Pride View Post

Mr Baka, I believe no one here is implying that the 940 can do some of the same things technically the HD800 can.  But, it is fair to say that they share a similar sound signature as in they both present a very neutral, analytical type sound.


I'm pretty sure that's exactly what oldshoe99 is implying.
 

 

 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

 

 

I've said it before, for the $, I thought the SRH840s were a better buy (and sounded slightly better to my ears). But there are some who would like to fool themselves into thinking these headphones are in the same league of today's flagship headphones....this is simply not true.

 

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but I thought the SRH-940 was a flagship headphone... of today?

 

Maybe all that bass made you forget your medicine, grandma. ;)
 

 

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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

@ R-Audiohead

Yes - agree.  You and I are describing the 940 along similar lines.  The like/don't like comes down to individual preference.  It's been funny though - I can't think of many cans that are so polarising - most people either really like or dislike them.  Doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground.

 

Quick questions - what price range do the SP-1 / GMP450 Pro normally go for?  Also - have you heard the FA-003?  From the descriptions I've read, it also sounds quite natural (has been described as close sound to HD600).  If I get a closed can again, but don't go back to the SRH840, then I'm thinking of trying the Fischers.



Very polarizing... maybe the K701 can compare in that regard?

 

Sp-1 is a custom version of the older MB Quart QP450 PRO, and according to a guy I contacted at CharterOak his changes were not only external, he actually did a little tuning/dampening himself and I find the result very wonderful.  Nothing like any of the other headphone's I've heard, and probably the best well-rounder I've had on my head.  I'd have no problem sending you some PMs regarding this headphone if you're interested.  Since it is a customized version, it goes for a little more (around 360 USD) and is actually fairly rare - my serial number is 42, and I've only seen one other for sale in the last year and never two at a time.  Then again, you could probably order direct if you call him.

 

The GMP450 PRO is the  updated MB Quart model, and it has been confirmed that subtle changes in sonic character did occur during the update, but ergonomically they are identical.  The GMP450 run anywhere from 300-350 USD.  As you can see, there are probably some subtle sonic differences between the Sp-1 and GMP450 PRO, but it shouldn't be anything major.  My guess is something on the level of the Q/K701 (I've read a little suggesting very minor changes in the bass - who knows??).  Could also be more substantial...

 

I really need to hear me an FA-003.  That'd be a really interesting comparison between the SP-1 and the 003

post #2120 of 3844
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Still, I don't get the tonal balance thing? I would say they are more on par with the K701s in that regard (bass light...

 

also found the treble too much on both the AKGs and 940s.

 


Hold your wild horses there fella, k701? Voted the most overrated headphone on head-fi, ever. SRH-940? 'voted' the best new portable headphone, under $1000. ;)


 

post #2121 of 3844

Thank you R-Audiohead smile.gif

 

Great info.  I think I'll have to go down the FA-003 route first - mainly because it's the cheaper option.  I still want to get the SE535's in the next 12 months - and get a reasonable tube-amp for my HD600s (probably a LDIII or IV) - so I'll need to keep the overall budget in mind.

 

I'll definitely get in touch if I need extra info of the CharterOak - and I appreciate the help with it.

 

Cheers

Paul

post #2122 of 3844

Unsubscribed.  This thread doesn't go anywhere. It's just circling around the same initial debate. I'll go enjoy some more. Cheers. 

post #2123 of 3844
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post


Hold your wild horses there fella, k701? Voted the most overrated headphone on head-fi, ever. SRH-940? 'voted' the best new portable headphone, under $1000. ;)


 


LMAO - Kiteki you're incorrigible.  Don't ever change.
 

 

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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

and get a reasonable tube-amp for my HD600s (probably a LDIII or IV) - so I'll need to keep the overall budget in mind.

 


Seen the new Darkvoice 339?
 

post #2125 of 3844
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 


Seen the new Darkvoice 339?
 



Yes - tempting - but budget is going to be the biggest factor for me.  The Crack looks great too - but I'd have to get someone to build it for me - then the costs start mounting.  I'll probably cross those bridges sometime in Feb/March I think.

 

post #2126 of 3844

So what's the consensus? These good or bad? Or is it just not your sound preference?

post #2127 of 3844
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Originally Posted by bcasey25raptor View Post

So what's the consensus? These good or bad? Or is it just not your sound preference?



That is for you to decide.

 

Who cares if I like it?  I try to report what it sounds like to me, and then maybe some specific things I like/dislike about it.

 

Always order from a place that accepts returns.  Return shipping price is worth piece of mind.

post #2128 of 3844

 

bcasey why don't you try the CAL first and see what you think of that.

 

You could also save up for the Sony MDR-7520, quite close to the price of the SRH-940 actually, won some studio innovation award or something and uses the same liquid crystal technology driver as the Z1000.

 

 

post #2129 of 3844
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Originally Posted by bcasey25raptor View Post

So what's the consensus?


There's none. Always the same people defending how they are good or bad.

The title "detail monster" for these headphone is correct, especially with a good source;  but you have to realize the "monster" part.

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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

bcasey why don't you try the CAL first and see what you think of that.

 

You could also save up for the Sony MDR-7520, quite close to the price of the SRH-940 actually, won some studio innovation award or something and uses the same liquid crystal technology driver as the Z1000.

 

 



 

 

No I'm pretty certain I will buy the srh940s. Something about owning the highest level I find enticing. Also it has a lot of treble and that's what I want.
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