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And Mr. M. Hero, again no one is saying(at least not me) the 940 on the same level as the HD800.  To say they share a similar tonal balance/sound signature is not unreasonable.  Right?  Or do you feel even when looking at just tonal balance and overall presentation they are more dissimilar.

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Originally Posted by Digital-Pride View Post

And Mr. M. Hero, again no one is saying(at least not me) the 940 on the same level as the HD800.  To say they share a similar tonal balance/sound signature is not unreasonable.  Right?  Or do you feel even when looking at just tonal balance and overall presentation they are more dissimilar.

 

It wasn't you I was referring to, I just wanted to follow up on your post. smile.gif


Still, I don't get the tonal balance thing? I would say they are more on par with the K701s in that regard (bass light...too much bass is AWOL for me to consider them true to the recording) and as a result, I find the male voice lacks the proper base to sound "real". I also felt this way with the K701s (though the K701s had much better soundstaging than the Shures). I also found the treble too much on both the AKGs and 940s. The HD800s in a proper rig sound heavenly....on a sub-par rig can be harsh.

 

I'm not bashing Shure, I loved the SRH840s and am a very happy owner of their "true" flagship...the SE535s.

 

Oh...please call me Peter.

 


Edited by MacedonianHero - 11/6/11 at 10:01am
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If I had to give a negative point on the Sh-940 is lately after longer listening session I'm getting more discomfort on the top of my head from the headband. Keeping in mind that I'm bald. 



I think i can honestly say that most people complaining about comfort in most headphones have little to no hair. That would explain why i find the srh840s to be extremely comfortable and the srh750djs to be comfortable as well.

 

 

 

Also regarding the hd800 vs shure srh940. I think the main point here is that the hd800 isn't worth the whole $1400 price tag it goes for. Most definitely overpriced. In all honesty i find most sennheiser products to be more expensive then the competition. At least msrp anyways.

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Also regarding the hd800 vs shure srh940. I think the main point here is that the hd800 isn't worth the whole $1400 price tag it goes for. Most definitely overpriced. In all honesty i find most sennheiser products to be more expensive then the competition. At least msrp anyways.



Wow - wouldn't know where to go with this statement really ......

 

Casey - have you heard the HD800? (for the record I haven't - which is why I wouldn't make the kind of statement you just did!)

 

Or even the HD600/650?  (I own one, have heard both)

 

And really - quoting MSRP as a guide - street pricing would be far more practical and meaningful.  FTR - IMO even at MSRP the HD600 would be worth every penny.

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Wow - wouldn't know where to go with this statement really ......

 

Casey - have you heard the HD800? (for the record I haven't - which is why I wouldn't make the kind of statement you just did!)

 

Or even the HD600/650?  (I own one, have heard both)

 

And really - quoting MSRP as a guide - street pricing would be far more practical and meaningful.  FTR - IMO even at MSRP the HD600 would be worth every penny.


Or used at $200 ish...much better sounding headphones than the SRH940s IMO. But if one needs closed headphones for isolation, then the Shures would be the better choice I guess.

 

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Or used at $200 ish...much better sounding headphones than the SRH940s IMO. But if one needs closed headphones for isolation, then the Shures would be the better choice I guess.

 


Agree Peter - but after owning both the 940s and the 840s I'd rather go back to the 840's again - that's just my pref though.

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Wow - wouldn't know where to go with this statement really ......

 

Casey - have you heard the HD800? (for the record I haven't - which is why I wouldn't make the kind of statement you just did!)

 

Or even the HD600/650?  (I own one, have heard both)

 

And really - quoting MSRP as a guide - street pricing would be far more practical and meaningful.  FTR - IMO even at MSRP the HD600 would be worth every penny.


If i could get my hands on an hd800 to listen to i would. But from what i undrstand and what most likely rings true there won't be a substantial difference between headphones much cheaper. You get the final 5 - 10% out of the sennheiser hd800 that you wouldn't get out of the srh940. I don't demand 100% quality i demand good quality that sounds much better and allows for more detailed listening. I don't need a massive soundstage, or impressive bass. All i need is what sounds good to me and i wouldn't spend $1400 for the sennheiser hd800.

 

And worth every penny vs value is 2 different things. I am certain you can find a cheaper headphone with just as good if not better sound quality. Sennheiser like Grado seems to have a large undeserving fanbase.

 

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If i could get my hands on an hd800 to listen to i would. But from what i undrstand and what most likely rings true there won't be a substantial difference between headphones much cheaper. You get the final 5 - 10% out of the sennheiser hd800 that you wouldn't get out of the srh940. I don't demand 100% quality i demand good quality that sounds much better and allows for more detailed listening. I don't need a massive soundstage, or impressive bass. All i need is what sounds good to me and i wouldn't spend $1400 for the sennheiser hd800.

 

And worth every penny vs value is 2 different things. I am certain you can find a cheaper headphone with just as good if not better sound quality. Sennheiser like Grado seems to have a large undeserving fanbase.

 


I find the differences to be rather large on a stellar rig. <--- Note the rig is very important (amp, dac, source, tubes, cables, etc...) to extract the most out of today's top headphones.

 

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It wasn't you I was referring to, I just wanted to follow up on your post. smile.gif


Still, I don't get the tonal balance thing? I would say they are more on par with the K701s in that regard (bass light...too much bass is AWOL for me to consider them true to the recording) and as a result, I find the male voice lacks the proper base to sound "real". I also felt this way with the K701s (though the K701s had much better soundstaging than the Shures). I also found the treble too much on both the AKGs and 940s. The HD800s in a proper rig sound heavenly....on a sub-par rig can be harsh.

 

I'm not bashing Shure, I loved the SRH840s and am a very happy owner of their "true" flagship...the SE535s.

 

Oh...please call me Peter.

 


Sorry about that Peter.  I guess I was a bit too defensive there.redface.gif  I'll have to give the HD800 a listen sometime in the not so distant future.

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Sorry about that Peter.  I guess I was a bit too defensive there.redface.gif  I'll have to give the HD800 a listen sometime in the not so distant future.



No worries.

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If i could get my hands on an hd800 to listen to i would. But from what i undrstand and what most likely rings true there won't be a substantial difference between headphones much cheaper. You get the final 5 - 10% out of the sennheiser hd800 that you wouldn't get out of the srh940. I don't demand 100% quality i demand good quality that sounds much better and allows for more detailed listening. I don't need a massive soundstage, or impressive bass. All i need is what sounds good to me and i wouldn't spend $1400 for the sennheiser hd800.

 

And worth every penny vs value is 2 different things. I am certain you can find a cheaper headphone with just as good if not better sound quality. Sennheiser like Grado seems to have a large undeserving fanbase.

 



So let me get it right Casey.  You haven't heard the 940 or the HD800 - but you're making claims about the SQ on both.  You've also heard hardly any of the Senn range, and the only Grado/Alessandro you've heard has been the MS1i.  Yet you make a grand sweeping statement like the one above.

 

Please stop before you go much further wink.gif ..... seriously.

 

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Quick OT Question for Macedonian Hero ....

 

Peter - I notice you have the 535.  Have been interested in them for a long time.  I loved my 425s when I had them - just felt they needed a little more bass extension, and a little more high end.  I know it's unfair comparing IEMs with cnas - but would you say the sig on the 535 is similar to the SRh840 (which I always felt had a great allround sound)?

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I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone can make judgments about the sound or value of a headphone they haven't heard before. No-one is saying the HD800 is 4x or 5x better than the Shure 940. The HD800 does, however, compare well with other $1000+ headphones. Guess what? The Shure 940 compares to $300 cans.

I also don't think the 940 has the same tonality (is that a word?) as the HD800. I'm not speculating. I own both. And I agree with Peter's point that the 940 is more akin to the AKG 70x. Which I've also owned.
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Quick OT Question for Macedonian Hero ....

 

Peter - I notice you have the 535.  Have been interested in them for a long time.  I loved my 425s when I had them - just felt they needed a little more bass extension, and a little more high end.  I know it's unfair comparing IEMs with cnas - but would you say the sig on the 535 is similar to the SRh840 (which I always felt had a great allround sound)?



I owned the 535 before. I want to first say they're excellent IEMs. They just didn't suit my style. If I had to peg headphones to compare them to it would be, to me, somewhere between the HD650 and the LCD2. The 535 has the best mids I've ever heard in an IEM. IMHO the highs are a tad rolled off (Peter disagrees) and the bass has a biot of warmth to it. The Shure 840 isn't too far off except the mids of the 535 are much silkier and more refined.
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I owned the 535 before. I want to first say they're excellent IEMs. They just didn't suit my style. If I had to peg headphones to compare them to it would be, to me, somewhere between the HD650 and the LCD2. The 535 has the best mids I've ever heard in an IEM. IMHO the highs are a tad rolled off (Peter disagrees) and the bass has a biot of warmth to it. The Shure 840 isn't too far off except the mids of the 535 are much silkier and more refined.



Many thanks.

 

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