File -> Pref -> Component -> Install.
File -> Pref -> DSP -> Graphic EQ -> Left arrow -> Config.
You make a valid point.
For the record, oldshoe99 did mention what amplifier he is using for some of his tests back in page 113 "Playing the HD-800 and Shure 940 out of an old Headroom amp"
miceblue - the reason baka's calling him out is because in response to my question on source, we get something like this:
or that rather vague reference to an 'old Headroom amp'.
The reason it's interesting in the context of this thread is that the SRH940 doesn't need extra amplification - it can be played straight out of an iPod. The HD800 however (from what I've read - I've never heard one) needs a decent source and amp.
So comparison between SRH940 and HD800 on a weak source and amp would bring the HD800 down to the SRH940's level (so to speak). However a good source and amp that allows both to shine would allow a fair comparison.
The reason it interests me is that if the HD800 sounds extremely similar to the SRH940 in a fair comparison, then I can scratch the HD800 off my list as something I'd enjoy. Won't stop me from trying them someday so I can form my own opinion though .
The thing is, some quite experienced people here have suggested they aren't both in the same ballpark as far as sig or sq is concerned. So we have an impasse. For discussion sake, I (and others) would simply like to know exactly what oldshoe's source and amp is. And that means exactly what it is - not just a vague reference.
Hope this explains the dilemma.
I might unsubscribe now though. I had the 940's, sold them, and have moved on. Same old debate seems to keep revolving. Time I left as I think I've exhausted any new things to say.
I'm with this guy. They're not in the same tier.
I thought that a pic, would put more strength to kiteki message (I hope you won't mind some fun):
fixed. Seriously, most people interested by the srh940, won't test the hd800 anyways.
Let me be precise.
These are the headphones I've heard:
Ultrasone Edition 10
Ultrasone Edition 8
Ultrasone Pro 900
Sony Piiq Q1
Dr. Dre Beats Studio
Sennheiser HD 595
Beyerdynamic ＴＥＳLＡ T5p
Audio Technica ATH-A2000X
STAX SR-404 Signature
Sony PSP VoIP clip-ons
Audio Technica ATH-ESW9
From this list, I put SRH-940, SA-5000 and HD800 in the same category of sound.
To be precise, I used the SA-5000 for a long time with lots of sources, I used the SRH-940 and HD800 only from the Teclast T51.
The 940 was harder to drive, by the way.
The 940 was more impressive, more stand-outish, the HD800 was more neutral, just "there" sound, refined and nothing in nor out.
That's my personal experience and exact sources.
Edit: I spent about 10~15 minutes on each one, and listened to classical, female vocal pop, and electronica.
Imo, it takes longer than 10 - 15 minutes to listen to their full potential. Same reason why good reviews are done in 1 - 2 weeks time.
You're right, I should have listened to the SRH-940 for a good hour or two, before making judgements, is that what you're saying? or what?
Afaik the only 'discrediting' arose when he said the SRH-840 is better than the 940.
Maybe models vary a lot, and I heard a bad 840 and great 940, or maybe he just hates bright headphones, but I really couldn't hear anything spectacular about the 840, the 940 was on a whole different level in sound quality, detail and layering, in my listening session, whereas the 840 was in the same ballpark as Sony MDR-V6.
You might think it's unfair to compare open and closed cans in different price categories, but in an ideal world we could demo every headphone available without knowing anything about the price.
I try not to factor in price too much, I like great sound for cheap, but when it comes to flagships, I just compare flagship with flagship, not thinking about the price.
and by the way, the SA-5000 cost over $700 in it's first release.