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5 hours of driving is a lot of money. Gas is expensive and i generally take the bus. I don't have a car.

Do you really think getting a plane ticket out of the country is cheaper than 5 hours of driving now?

I don't see any proper audio shops that stocks a large range of headphones that I am interested in in UK so far. At least not one that will let you demo them.

In UK, they tend to treat them as mere accessory and not many take them that seriously over speakers.
Edited by Ra97oR - 11/5/11 at 8:38pm
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Do you really think getting a plane ticket out of the country is cheaper than 5 hours of driving now?


You make a valid point.

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Originally Posted by John In Cali View Post

Do you think you could tell me what page your post is on? Or its general area, maybe even quote it. Color me interested.

This post, this post, this post, or this post for example


 

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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post

I think you're full of bollocks. You were asked to actually show and prove the equpiment you've "claimed" to own and you never provided any. I don't think you contribute anything to Head-Fi.


For the record, oldshoe99 did mention what amplifier he is using for some of his tests back in page 113 "Playing the HD-800 and Shure 940 out of an old Headroom amp"


Edited by miceblue - 11/6/11 at 1:05am
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For the record, oldshoe99 did mention what amplifier he is using for some of his tests back in page 113 "Playing the HD-800 and Shure 940 out of an old Headroom amp"


 

miceblue - the reason baka's calling him out is because in response to my question on source, we get something like this:

 

 

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Originally Posted by oldshoe99 View Post


Ooh - I didn't see this. I don't keep fancy stuff with me since I'm on the go all the time, but when I'm in the East I go to my brother's house (his mansion, actually) and do the serious tests there. But I don't think he has those DAC things because he uses a turntable. His turntable costs more than my truck, and that's saying something because my truck has those double back wheels. Amazing stuff. The analog really is revealing - I think that's the right word. Out West I go to my GF's place, and she has DAC's galore - so much wiring in the place it's like a rat's nest. I don't mess with that stuff - just plug it in. If you want my opinion, the digital stuff is more sterile sounding than analog, but the funny part is, whatever comparison I make at my bro's house (mansion), it still holds true at the digital house. Only more cold and sterile.

or that rather vague reference to an 'old Headroom amp'.

 

The reason it's interesting in the context of this thread is that the SRH940 doesn't need extra amplification - it can be played straight out of an iPod.  The HD800 however (from what I've read - I've never heard one) needs a decent source and amp.

 

So comparison between SRH940 and HD800 on a weak source and amp would bring the HD800 down to the SRH940's level (so to speak).  However a good source and amp that allows both to shine would allow a fair comparison.

 

The reason it interests me is that if the HD800 sounds extremely similar to the SRH940 in a fair comparison, then I can scratch the HD800 off my list as something I'd enjoy.  Won't stop me from trying them someday so I can form my own opinion though wink.gif.

 

The thing is, some quite experienced people here have suggested they aren't both in the same ballpark as far as sig or sq is concerned.  So we have an impasse.  For discussion sake, I (and others) would simply like to know exactly what oldshoe's source and amp is.  And that means exactly what it is - not just a vague reference.

 

Hope this explains the dilemma.

 

I might unsubscribe now though.  I had the 940's, sold them, and have moved on.  Same old debate seems to keep revolving.  Time I left as I think I've exhausted any new things to say.

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I can vouch that Sony SA-5000, Shure SRH-940 and Senn HD800 are all in the same ballpark of sound.

 

 

 

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I'll say that comparing the HD800 and 940 isn't a fair comparison. The 940 is a closed can and sounds like it. The HD800 is open. The 940 has a mid bass hole the HD800 doesn't. The HD800 is more refined. The 940 is rough around the edges. The HD800 needs a quality amp. The 940 doesn't. The 940 does not compare to the HD800.
Edited by baka1969 - 11/6/11 at 4:48am
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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post

I'll say that comparing the HD800 and 940 isn't a fair comparison. The 940 is a closed can and sounds like it. The HD800 is open. The 940 has a mid bass hole the HD800 doesn't. The HD800 is more refined. The 940 is rough around the edges. The HD800 needs a quality amp. The 940 doesn't. The 940 does not compare to the HD800.


I'm with this guy. They're not in the same tier.

 

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                            I thought that a pic, would put more strength to kiteki message (I  hope you won't mind some fun):
 

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@baka1969

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The 940 does not need to compare to the HD800.

fixed. Seriously, most people interested by the srh940, won't test the hd800 anyways.

 


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 11/6/11 at 5:16am
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Let me be precise.

 

 

These are the headphones I've heard:

Ultrasone Edition 10
Ultrasone Edition 8
Ultrasone Pro 900
LCD-2 (R2)
Sennheiser HD800
ATH-W5000
ATH-W1000X
Skullcandy Aviator
Skullcandy G.I.
Skullcandy Hesh
Skullcandy Icon
Shure SRH-940
Shure SRH-840
Sony ZX500
Sony XB700
Sony Piiq Q1
Dr. Dre Beats Studio
AKG K701
Grado MS1
Grado SR60i
Sennheiser PX200
Sennheiser HD 595
Jays v-Jays
 

Owned:

 

Beyerdynamic TESLA T5p
Audio Technica ATH-A2000X
STAX SR-404 Signature
Sony SA-5000
Sony MDR-V6
Sony PSP VoIP clip-ons
Koss PortaPro
Fostex T-5
Audio Technica ATH-ESW9
 

 

From this list, I put SRH-940, SA-5000 and HD800 in the same category of sound.

 

To be precise, I used the SA-5000 for a long time with lots of sources, I used the SRH-940 and HD800 only from the Teclast T51.

 

The 940 was harder to drive, by the way.

 

The 940 was more impressive, more stand-outish, the HD800 was more neutral, just "there" sound, refined and nothing in nor out.

 

That's my personal experience and exact sources.

 

Edit: I spent about 10~15 minutes on each one, and listened to classical, female vocal pop, and electronica.

 


Edited by kiteki - 11/6/11 at 5:22am
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As much as I hated how the HD800 sound, it still sounded more refined than the SRH940 for sure. Sony SA5000 against HD800? Depends. I for sure will take the SA5000 over the HD800.
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I spent about 10~15 minutes on each one, and listened to classical, female vocal pop, and electronica.

 


Imo, it takes longer than 10 - 15 minutes to listen to their full potential. Same reason why good reviews are done in 1 - 2 weeks time.

 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post



                            I thought that a pic, would put more strength to kiteki message (I  hope you won't mind some fun):

 
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@baka1969
fixed. Seriously most people interested by the srh940, won't be able to test the hd800 anyways.

I have said again and again in this thread that for the typical street prices the Shure 940 is a very nice CLOSED can. Why there are others that must insist the 940 is a replacement for the HD800 is what makes me scratch my head. Plus that ridiculous review that plugged the HD800 into an iPod and then the HD800 and 940 were practically the same was laughable. There are still others that don't even have the HD800 making judgments about the two. Still others trying to discredit someone like Tyll (who wasn't positive about the 940) with nothing to substantiate any claims.

I have both. I've had both for quite some time. I've done the A/B comparisons. It's apples and oranges. Trying to compare the 940 to the HD800 poorly reflects upon the Shure. If everyone would move on from that and try to compare the Shure 940 with other closed headphones in a similar price level then it's fair and the 940 compares better.
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Imo, it takes longer than 10 - 15 minutes to listen to their full potential. Same reason why good reviews are done in 1 - 2 weeks time.

 


You're right, I should have listened to the SRH-940 for a good hour or two, before making judgements, is that what you're saying? or what?
 

 

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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post

Still others trying to discredit someone like Tyll (who wasn't positive about the 940) with nothing to substantiate any claims.

[...] closed headphones in a similar price level then it's fair and the 940 compares better.


Afaik the only 'discrediting' arose when he said the SRH-840 is better than the 940.
 

Maybe models vary a lot, and I heard a bad 840 and great 940, or maybe he just hates bright headphones, but I really couldn't hear anything spectacular about the 840, the 940 was on a whole different level in sound quality, detail and layering, in my listening session, whereas the 840 was in the same ballpark as Sony MDR-V6.

 

You might think it's unfair to compare open and closed cans in different price categories, but in an ideal world we could demo every headphone available without knowing anything about the price.

 

I try not to factor in price too much, I like great sound for cheap, but when it comes to flagships, I just compare flagship with flagship, not thinking about the price.

 

and by the way, the SA-5000 cost over $700 in it's first release.

 


Edited by kiteki - 11/6/11 at 5:46am
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