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Originally Posted by rhythmdevils View Post

You can't test things like this with one side only.  I've tried many times with damping changes to orthos and all it does is confuse you and ruin your memory of how they sounded before the change.  The human brain just cannot compare left to right like that and there's too many variables with recordings.  So I don't think you can trust what you hear or don't hear in this case. 



I believe you are right because I also tested a new leather pad that I made for my MS-Pro on one side only and again I was expecting big sound differences between each side but could not identify clearly.  I will redo the test on the SRH-940 with the Blue Tac and will also sew the other leather pad so I can properly compare these modifications. Cheer wink.gif

 

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I guess I should have said my brain, not the human brain.  tongue_smile.gif

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

 

Interesting. What happens if you don't use the E9, only the D3 ? A bit surprising that the D3 that is cheaper than the E7, provide better results.I  guess that unlike the E7, you can't dock the D3 on the E9.

 

 

 

 

 


That's a good question.. I don't have a male RCA to female stereo adapter to try only the D3 at the moment.. and using optical out of my macbook pro, there is no volume control.. so i'm a little wary of trying the D3 by itself.

 

I was surprised that I thought the D3 sounded better.. but it does to my ears... especially for the price.

 

I would describe it as fuller and warmer, if I had to find the adjectives.


Edited by Robobandit - 10/12/11 at 3:19pm
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The D3 is much better than the E7 for me too. It doesn't work without the E9 by the way since it is not an amp like the e7

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Just auditioned these cans in Jaben.

 

GOD, these things have detail. I daresay more than the HD650 :P

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Originally Posted by crinacle View Post

Just auditioned these cans in Jaben.

 

GOD, these things have detail. I daresay more than the HD650 :P

Again, any information about the source used would be useful I think.
 

 

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All you 940 lovers need to try the JVC FXC51 IEM's.

 

Very nice detail, intimacy and enjoyment for such a cheap IEM.

 

Currently using my Sabre ESS ES9023 DAC and this Eq in foobar: JVC HAFXC51 Eq.jpg

 

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Anyone here own both the SRH940 and the MS1i, how does the two compare? Other than the obvious enhanced details and sonic extension of the SRH940, how do they differ in presentation of the freq range, imagining, sound stage, separation, speed....? thanks!

 

 


Edited by nw130d - 10/16/11 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

All you 940 lovers need to try the JVC FXC51 IEM's.

 

Very nice detail, intimacy and enjoyment for such a cheap IEM.

 

Currently using my Sabre ESS ES9023 DAC and this Eq in foobar: JVC HAFXC51 Eq.jpg

 

 

I would advise you to download the Graphic Equalizer DSP plugin. The default Equalizer of Foobar isnt that good, and often introduces distortion into the sound when the mid frequencies like the ones in that picture are adjusted. The Graphic Equalizer works alot better.
 

 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

According to shure , when compared to srh840 :

 

SRH940 has a flatter frequency response and lower distortion.

 

For flatter frequency, that's ok, overall frequency response is more flat.

 

But for lower distortion, I don't see which graph show this.  I would think the contrary by looking at this:

 

distorsion.jpg

 

False advertising ?

 

 

 


The graph shows harmonic distortion.  But there are many other kinds of distortion than harmonic distortion.  Intermodulation distortion (IM), for example, sounds a lot nastier to the ear than does harmonic distortion.  Perhaps Shure is referring to other kinds of distortion than harmonic distortion.

 

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Originally Posted by DarkAndroid View Post

 

 

I would advise you to download the Graphic Equalizer DSP plugin. The default Equalizer of Foobar isnt that good, and often introduces distortion into the sound when the mid frequencies like the ones in that picture are adjusted. The Graphic Equalizer works alot better.
 


Thanks for that advice, I rarely use Eq so I don't have any good Eq plugins in foobar.

 

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Originally Posted by Headphoner View Post

 


The graph shows harmonic distortion.  But there are many other kinds of distortion than harmonic distortion.  Intermodulation distortion (IM), for example, sounds a lot nastier to the ear than does harmonic distortion.  Perhaps Shure is referring to other kinds of distortion than harmonic distortion.

 

 

I wonder if that's what the Sony EX700 had? Because it sounds "a lot nastier" than the Sony EX600 and EX1000, and yet you can't see that in any of the graphs provided... if anything the EX1000 should sound worse than the EX700 according to the FR graphs, but that wasn't the case! ;)

 

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On another note... I'm thinking about joining the SRH-940 club and building a silver cable for it, I just want to see for myself if there's any difference... can someone show me what the connectors look like on the HP? Are they just 3.5mm jacks?

 

This is where I'll be sourcing the silver cable from - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Neotech-Wire-UPOCC-Solid-Core-7N-Silver-30AWG-Teflon-/320769010864

 

And then the bad cable - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380087020021

 

 

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Just got my 940 from MalVeauX and they sound great, but just some additions to the conversation.
First i believe it was MalVeauX who was worried about the spring mechanism and it wearing down, i don't think their will be any problems with it though as the way it stretches and pulls reminds me of my K240's auto adjusting headband which uses a strechy rope like thing that won't wear as fast as a spring. Especially inside of the headphone where it wont experience any "weather" like the K240 would.
Second the 940 doesn't lack bass like i thought it would, when i first auditioned it at Samash i agreed with the lack of bass, but now that i have them myself and MalVeauX said their was 36 hours of burn-in they seem to have proper amounts of bass even beating my K240 in amount, and this is coming from a XB500 owner. And very detailed and extensive bass.

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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

On another note... I'm thinking about joining the SRH-940 club and building a silver cable for it, I just want to see for myself if there's any difference... can someone show me what the connectors look like on the HP? Are they just 3.5mm jacks?

 

This is where I'll be sourcing the silver cable from - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Neotech-Wire-UPOCC-Solid-Core-7N-Silver-30AWG-Teflon-/320769010864

 

And then the bad cable - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380087020021

 

 


The connecter is a 2.5 but is kinda proprietary as it cuts a perfectly circular jack from entering as it has notches for the locking mechanism. You might have to do some splicing but who knows if that would skew the results.
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The issue I  got with the "harsh high" is I  realize because they are too much forward , and often recordings are naturally not completely "smooth" even if in lossless. The hd595 is not that much smoother for the highs, but I  don't have the sound of percussions or any hissing  "on the face", and the high are less emphasized by default. I  think the hd595 are better for someone that is used to listen to speakers...

 

Also I  was using the equalizer  DMG  equality, and I  realized that the mode "linear phase" wasn't that good, despite being recommended for mastering , as it made the percussions even more harsh, the "analog mode" gives better result.

Finally I'm recently using again the xonar stx source, and  I believe  the headphone are more "melodical" and interesting  with it. The sound from realtek onboard soundcard is dull in comparison.

 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

The issue I  got with the "harsh high" is I  realize because they are too much forward , and often recordings are naturally not completely "smooth" even if in lossless. The hd595 is not that much smoother for the highs, but I  don't have the sound of percussions or any hissing  "on the face", and the high are less emphasized by default. I  think the hd595 are better for someone that is used to listen to speakers...



I feel the exact opposite. The highs are not harsh at all but rather detailed and not recessed. But nor are they too forward, they are nicely balanced in the mix. Not "smooth" in the sense of overly warm or rolled off, but not at all overdone either.

 

As for the 595's, they were actually my first "real" headphones awhile back when I didn't know better lol. I thought Senn was THE headphone brand and read that the 595's were more forward than other Senns. I bought them and was never very impressed, they weren't much better than my old Sony's. This was before I even checked out headphone forums like this one.

 

After getting subsequent cans now as well as going from mere "budget fi" speakers to truly "hi fi" ones (I was "cheap" with my audio gear at first: testing the waters and such) the 595's sound decidedly lo-fi to me. I wouldn't even say budget or mid fi, just plain not very good. They are the least "speaker like" of all my cans because they sound the least refined, transparent, or sophisticated. I give them a 6/10 and that is overdoing it imo, more like a 3 or 4 out of ten. Jmo of course, there is no real right or wrong in such matters.

 

I gave them to my dad years ago who uses them a few times a year lol.


Edited by Pratt - 10/26/11 at 4:03pm
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