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post #1816 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Player1josh46 View Post

Well I've tried to lower the bass and up the mids in the M50s and It kinda worked but the bass still reigned over a bit. EQu has a feature to put it on a "safe" mode and there is no distortion at all. In return though volume is lowered a little. The thing is that not all headphones respond well to equalization i.e M50s. Perhaps the 940s will have some more luck, I hope.


If you push too much the low bass, you'll notice that sometimes the headphone is "struggling" to provide some punch; so you might prefer to keep
the lows subdued . It might be more efficient to eq down the highs, if and only if they annoy you. I don't think the srh940 would sound best out of an ipod anyway.
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post


If you push too much the low bass, you'll notice that sometimes the headphone is "struggling" to provide some punch; so you might prefer to keep
the lows subdued . It might be more efficient to eq down the highs, if and only if they annoy you. I don't think the srh940 would sound best out of an ipod anyway.


I dont know, ill see if I can get my hands on a 940.

 

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Originally Posted by Player1josh46 View Post

I dont know, ill see if I can get my hands on a 940.

 



With mp3 recordings from 320kbps to some that are 256-192kbps on an ipod touch, is the 940s an option at all anymore?

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i use an iPod classic and the 940s are awesome. it does struggle a bit at high volumes just straight out of the iPod classic. through the fiio e11 + iPod though... it gets enough power it needs and really brings out the best in these cans.

 

lossless and 320kbps is ideal. 256 is also pretty good. anything lower than that and you really hear the difference with the 940s. i was pretty satisfied with 192kbps before i upgraded from the srh440s. now they just don't cut it.

 

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With mp3 recordings from 320kbps to some that are 256-192kbps on an ipod touch, is the 940s an option at all anymore?



 

 

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The sound quality of your sound-card, DAC or DAP is much more important than bitrate.

 

 

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in other news, my Fiio E7/E9 arrived yesterday i've been using it since with my Sennheiser HD 598 and Shure SRH 940. I can say there is just maybe a slight improvement from my onboard sound but not a big night and day difference as suggested around the forums. So either:

 

a) my onboard sound is really good to begin with

b) the Sennheiser HD 598 and Shure SRH 940 dont need/dont benefit much from amping

c) the Fiio E7/E9 isnt just quite as good as I expected it to be

or maybe a little bit of all three.....

 

For me the E9 is the only reason why I'm happy with the purchase....at first I tried the E7 by itself and the sound was pretty much the same with my onboard sound card if not maybe worse, both on my netbook and my HP notebook. I even tried it with my iPod shuffle and it completely muddied the sound, although maybe that would be because I was using it with the headphone jack and not a line out jack since the iPod Shuffle doesnt have one. However with the E7/E9 combo used with my computers, I guess what I notice is that on songs with alot of bass, the bass no longer overshadows the other frequencies since I tend to use a u-shaped curve in my equalizers. I'd be listening to a song that sounded fine and as soon as a bassy part kicked in such as maybe the chorus, the mids and vocals would be recessed, but the E7/E9 solves that problem. Also, many people said that the E7/E9 greatly increases sound clarity and sound crispness, but I'm not so sure about that at least for me.

Well at least, using these has made me like my HD 598 again over my SRH 940! Using both of these headphones with the amp really highlights the lack of bass impact on the SRH 940 which makes alot of my music not as fun to listen to since there is alot of pop and hip-hop in my library. And I can always upgrade to a better DAC, since I suspect that may be what is bottlenecking the sound in this case....HRT Streamer II+, I have you in my crosshairs!!! :-D


Edited by DarkAndroid - 10/1/11 at 7:47am
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I have a Sabre ESS DAC now and I am extremely happy.

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What I've noticed with the srh940, is that often some percussions are hissing in an unpleasant way. Technically it's not "sibilance", since the problem is not with the sss of human voice, but it's as if the percussions are doing this. Perhaps the problem is worse out of my onboard soundcard, but it contributes a lot to the feeling of something "lifeless" and "unmusical".

Below, here is my last attempt to eq the srh940, by trying to follow a theorically more ideal curve. This time I choose to split the graph in three parts; in the first part I try to boost the bass, and in the last I try to lower the highs. In red the "ideal" curve I tried to follow:

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Here's the eq, I got by trying to follow above supposed ideal graph:

EDITED: replaced by a more accurate EQ.

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Result: sound seems more natural to me. At least the perceived "hissing" of percussions is reduced.

Finally it's interesting to compare , my new supposed ideal cure, with the Shure SE535.
You notice that lot of parts match, except the treble roll off that I've put further.

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Edited by extrabigmehdi - 10/1/11 at 8:47pm
post #1824 of 3844
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

What I've noticed with the srh940, is that often some percussions are hissing in an unpleasant way. Technically it's not "sibilance", since the problem is not with the sss of human voice, but it's as if the percussions are doing this. Perhaps the problem is worse out of my onboard soundcard, but it contributes a lot to the feeling of something "lifeless" and "unmusical".
 

Yeah compared to the Sennheiser HD 598, I think I've noticed this too. So are you saying that the problems/shortcomings of the SRH 940 can be solved with equalization?

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I'm interested in the SRH-940 again.

 

 

When I get the chance, I might take my T5p's to a store and do a direct comparison, to see what the hell is up with the 940's.

 

Maybe I'll bring my laptop and a Sabre DAC too ^^

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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

The sound quality of your sound-card, DAC or DAP is much more important than bitrate.

 

 



If it's a poor 256kpbs or less, even a good source doesn't save you from the artifacts, lack of dynamics and other loss of information...


Edited by electropop - 10/1/11 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

I'm interested in the SRH-940 again.

 

 

When I get the chance, I might take my T5p's to a store and do a direct comparison, to see what the hell is up with the 940's.

 

Maybe I'll bring my laptop and a Sabre DAC too ^^


Also bring your wallet, they will surprise you. The rendering of classic jazz (miles, coltrane and the like) is uncanny.

 

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Finally I managed to compute the exact differences between my last supposed "ideal" graph, and the freq response from headroom.
This gives this result:

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I've corrected my eq to match better this graph (edited my previous post)

@DarkAndroid
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Yeah compared to the Sennheiser HD 598, I think I've noticed this too. So are you saying that the problems/shortcomings of the SRH 940 can be solved with equalization?
The most obvious improvement from my last eq-ing , is the imaging. It just seems more coherent and natural.
Listening the first minutes with my EQ, seems at first impressive, but after a while, you realize that some fatigue is still there. Especially the "hissing" highs, they are more on the background, but after a while they just can't remain unnoticed (because you still have the feeling that it rubs your ears with sandpaper )
Maybe a better DAC will make a difference, I 'm surprised you didn't have success with your E7/E9 combo , according to the other thread.
Off course , whatever you'd be doing, it would never be as smooth as a sennheiser hd5xx or hd6xx headphone.
Edited by extrabigmehdi - 10/2/11 at 7:07am
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Originally Posted by electropop View Post

If it's a poor 256kpbs or less, even a good source doesn't save you from the artifacts, lack of dynamics and other loss of information...

 

 

You are indeed correct, I didn't mean a good source can "save you", I just meant the improvement in sound quality going from a bad source to a good source is much more significant than going from 192kbps to 320kbps lol.

 

 

post #1830 of 3844
I would still like one or two other 940 owners to attempt the putty/blu-tack mods and report back their impressions.
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