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post #1771 of 3844

What's funny is that today I switched to a docked Ipod Touch (line out) to my Fiio E9. The sound definitely felt like it was downgraded when switching from the DAC (from PC). Less detail and the sound was even less clear. No big surprise there. The Ipod Touch does seem to add in a little extra bass (no EQ). Wonder why because I always though they were neutral. I don't know if I'll be able to go back to using an Ipod Touch anymore.Only used it for portable use anyway.

 

Strangely enough I switched from a Belden 1192A to a Mogami starquad cable and the mids were a tiny bit less forward and slightly less fatiguing (so far). Call me crazy, but I always felt those Monoprice thick cables added in a tiny bit of bass. Surely some people on here use the $1 Monoprice cables right? biggrin.gif On very few headphones can I actually hear any difference between interconnect cables. Just the D2000, Sextett and now the SRH-940. I like the Mogami because it only costs under $5 to make. Redco also sells them for under $8 too if you don't like soldering. It seems like when I used Belden for recables on headphones with forward mids it made them a little more fatiguing, but using them as interconnect cables shouldn't make much difference.

 

BTW one funny thing I just noticed is that the mids are a little thinner sounding on the E9 when switching from the Headroom Micro Amp. Kind of interesting, but I need to do more testing. I hate to see what they're like straight from a portable device.

 

Right now so far the Micro Amp makes them sound the best. I bet my Airhead would make them sound quite similar too.

 

It's funny because I was reading a review where they said some may want more colored mids than what the SRH-940 offers. I was thinking to myself..if they were any more colored they'd be an HD-650! Maybe these will sound totally different for everyone depending on amping or source. Who knows...that's my guess. These things love my amp..I guess that's good news for me.

 

Fiio E9 is a nice match for them too. Totally not required of course.

 

Overall I like their sound a lot, but it's a bit different than what I normally like. Yet on paper it seems to match my perfect headphone. They still don't seem too neutral to me. Maybe straight from a portable player they will be. normal_smile%20.gif

 

Biggest disappointment of the SRH-940 is the overall sound clarity (on any amp) and the soundstage. Just good in both areas. I guess I can't have everything.

 

I think tonight I'll compare these to the HD-598 for gaming.

 

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Feels weird how much better (and different) these sound with a different interconnect cable..and they say cables make no difference?! Seriously try a $5 Mogami and tell me if you see an improvement or not. Can't get over how less fatiguing they are now. Ok, it's like an under 5% difference, but it's definitely noticeable.

 

I was listening to them though with the Fiio E9 and the resulting sound felt a tiny bit more neutral than the day before. Almost kind of boring to listen to. Switched to the Headroom Micro Amp and it's a huge improvement. Probably less neutral, but that's OK with me. With this amp it's hard to complain about the bass of the SRH-940. Not that I would. Too bad  very few people here seem to use Headroom amps. I like them a lot. It seems that many years ago they were more a little more common.

 

My advice is to try another amp, source or cable if you don't like how they sound normal_smile%20.gif

 


Edited by tdockweiler - 9/20/11 at 12:27pm
post #1772 of 3844

Think I may buy a pair of these. This pair is a loaner.

I compared the SRH-940 to the HD-598 a lot today and prefer the (recabled) HD-598, but I think the SRH-940 would be a good alternative for when I need something more portable that needs a little less amping (not sure how they compare for this yet).

 

HD-598 definitely is less fatiguing and has less treble. I bet anyone who has any complaints about the SRH-940 would love the HD-598. Bass quantity between the two seems about the same. HD-598 definitely has more forward mids than the HD-600 and HD-650 to me.

 

HD-598 sounds a bit more clear than the SRH-940 almost all the time, but this would never be the case with the stock cable I think. My biggest complaint about the HD-598 was it's somewhat muffled sound, but a recable took care of that and added in a lot of extra detail.

 

Has anyone seen this graph?

 

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IMO the HD-598 does female vocals just as well as the SRH-940, if not better. That's one reason I wanted to try the SRH-940.

post #1773 of 3844

@tdockweiler

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The Ipod Touch does seem to add in a little extra bass (no EQ). Wonder why because I always though they were neutral.


When the high becomes muddy, the overall sound seems less bright , and  the bass becomes more obvious. I got the feeling  of having more bass, after applying some reverb with foobar player.
 

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Call me crazy, but I always felt those Monoprice thick cables added in a tiny bit of bass.

 

Perhaps an other way to cripple the sharp high of these headphones. You might  play with some volume control like the koss vc20 , instead of using cheap cable with ( I guess ) high impedance.
 

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They still don't seem too neutral to me. Maybe straight from a portable player they will be.


Out of a poor source, they sound like what kiteki call "a plain jane" headphone.
A cheap koss headphone would do better.
 

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My advice is to try another amp, source or cable if you don't like how they sound


Exactly the point I tried to make. But Brooko didn't like them much with every source/amp he tried.

 

post #1774 of 3844
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

Exactly the point I tried to make. But Brooko didn't like them much with every source/amp he tried.

 



They just weren't 'my sound'.  Definitely not saying they aren't good headphones - they're just not for me.  Release a SRH1040, with Beyer comfort and a sound signature between the SRH840 and SRH940 - then I'd be definitely interested wink.gif

post #1775 of 3844
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

 

My advice is to try another amp, source or cable if you don't like how they sound normal_smile%20.gif

 


My advice would be... GET ANOTHER PAIR OF HEADPHONES!!!!

Usually, from my experience, different amps haven't shown me "extreme" changes in sound signature. If someone doesn't like the 940 signature (like Brooko), then another pair should be good (just like he did and got the HD600s!) and not any different DACs/cables/AMPS/etc...
 

Just my .02 cents... :-p

 

 

BTW, Brooko, any impressions or reviews planned for the HD600s?!? ;-)

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My advice would be... GET ANOTHER PAIR OF HEADPHONES!!!!

Usually, from my experience, different amps haven't shown me "extreme" changes in sound signature. If someone doesn't like the 940 signature (like Brooko), then another pair should be good (just like he did and got the HD600s!) and not any different DACs/cables/AMPS/etc...
 

Just my .02 cents... :-p

 

 

BTW, Brooko, any impressions or reviews planned for the HD600s?!? ;-)


Yeah, it's not worth going out and buying another amp or source just for one headphone. Luckily I had other amps, sources and cables to try out. No cable or amp has made any "extreme" change in a sound signature, but enough for me to go from NOT liking to liking a headphone.

 

It was when I went from the Asgard with the K702 to the Fiio E9. Same with the E9 to the Micro Amp for the HD-650. I guess it's all just getting proper synergy or something. It's funny though because with specific amps and cables you can almost get the HD-650 to sound similar to the HD-598 normal_smile%20.gif

 

Then recently I found out I hated the E11 with the M50. It was a poor match for me and switching to another amp totally changed my opinion.

 

Now..with the SRH-940 they seem to benefit even less from amping than some of the above headphones.

 

post #1777 of 3844
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post


BTW, Brooko, any impressions or reviews planned for the HD600s?!? ;-)


I'll do it in time.  I've learnt now to wait a while, and actually get to know the cans before reviewing - so I really want to wait a month with the HD600s.  Some of my earlier reviews I had to edit later - because over time my thoughts changed quite a bit.  The only reason I did one after a couple of weeks with the SRH940 was that I knew I was selling them.  Thought I might compare the HD600 with my DT880 - as so far I've found they both have a lot of common ground.

 

It'll just be my amateur opinion though wink.gif - been a lot of expert comparisons between the HD600 and the DT880 already.

post #1778 of 3844

 

 

Yeah a headphone changes the sound more than cables and amplifiers do.... I can personally vouch for this... I was using a Koss PortaPro for years trying different $1000 amplifiers and then when I switched to the D7000 KA-BOOM everything changed the difference was way better than upgrading my Koss to silver cables btw.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

My advice would be... GET ANOTHER PAIR OF HEADPHONES!!!!

Usually, from my experience, different amps haven't shown me "extreme" changes in sound signature. If someone doesn't like the 940 signature (like Brooko), then another pair should be good (just like he did and got the HD600s!) and not any different DACs/cables/AMPS/etc...

That's ok, BUT, you should have at least one decent source. If  the best you have to test the srh940, is an ipod touch (just like miceblue) , I  believe something is wrong.

 

I quote what tdockweiler said:

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What's funny is that today I switched to a docked Ipod Touch (line out) to my Fiio E9. The sound definitely felt like it was downgraded when switching from the DAC (from PC). Less detail and the sound was even less clear.

 

This kind of change is enough big to not be ignored, IMHO. I guess that tdockweiler is using a good sound card on his pc.

 

@kiteki

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I was using a Koss PortaPro for years trying different $1000 amplifiers and then when I switched to the D7000 KA-BOOM everything changed the difference was way better than upgrading my Koss to silver cables btw.

 

Are you kidding, that's a bit extreme.  I'm wondering how many people would have the idea of using a 35$ headphone with  a 1000$ amp .

 

post #1780 of 3844
I also have now HD600 at home and IMo its much better headphone than SRH940 and I also prefer it to Beyers by slight margin.They arent laid back etc at good equipmetn and have much better and natural, not recessed midrange like beyers. 940 its too much "incomplete" to compete with beyers or senn IMO.
post #1781 of 3844
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I also have now HD600 at home and IMo its much better headphone than SRH940 and I also prefer it to Beyers by slight margin.They arent laid back etc at good equipmetn and have much better and natural, not recessed midrange like beyers. 940 its too much "incomplete" to compete with beyers or senn IMO.

Be more explicit, with the "incomplete".
 

 

post #1782 of 3844
bass shy unless you turn up to loud volumes, dry, lifeless, uninvolving? Music is emotion, feelings for everyday listening not studio mastering. Great midrange cant cure rest. IMO of course!
post #1783 of 3844
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Originally Posted by zibra View Post

bass shy unless you turn up to loud volumes, dry, lifeless, uninvolving? Music is emotion, feelings for everyday listening not studio mastering. Great midrange cant cure rest. IMO of course!

I  found them everything but uninvolving, but I  must precise  from my xonar stx.  If you miss the obvious fact that the highs can be aggressive, I  believe your source is not optimal.

post #1784 of 3844
it looks worse than I think about that HP but I jus describe my feelings. Boring is better word. And I have very good source and amp, again IMO:)
post #1785 of 3844

So I was just listening to some of the more modern pop songs I have on CD (Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga)...with the 940's I can see why people complain about today's 'everyday' music. Some tracks just seemed to sound so..so off, I can't really describe it. Lack of bass extension in songs? Lack of a soundstage? Too many electronic instruments used? Too much or too little of something...It all just sounded so weird. Sorry if you found this post out of the blue, I just wanted to share my experiences.


Edited by miceblue - 9/21/11 at 8:23pm
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