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post #1756 of 3844
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Interesting :)

post #1757 of 3844
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What a great graph lol, so I'm pretty sure now we can

 

a) invalidate headphone.com

b) invalidate all FR graphs

c) invalidate the HFI-580 as being very bass heavy.

d) invalidate the SRH-940 as being bass light.

 

 

Don't take "studio monitor" too seriously, but like I said, common headphones you'll see in studios (from what I've read) are Sony and Fostex studio models.

 

 


I don't think we can do any of those things.  tongue_smile.gif 

 

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@tdockweiler

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Not sure if I like them yet or not. They seem to be quite fatiguing. Even the mids are kind of fatiguing.


Yeah , that why I liked to apply a slight reverb, when listening to the srh940 with
my xonar stx. The sound becomes less fatiguing, and it becomes easier to focus on other part of the spectrum than the mids- highs. After that,  even  the bass becomes more obvious.
 

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SRH-940 sure seems to make some recordings better than they really should be. Not sure what to think of that. [...]
I keep thinking..oh...well the SRH-940 has more detail than the DJ100, but again this always varies between songs. It's just so bizarre.


I don't know if you burned them enough, but after a week of frequent use, I think the sound becomes more "consistent". At begin, when listening to the srh940,  some song were very detailed , but in an unnatural way (just like an hdr picture), this was more or less fixed after some use.

 

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Could probably EQ the SRH-840 and get similar results.


Just try for the sake of seeing if that's possible.

 

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BTW I've found the SRH-940 very, very comfortable.


Yeah, I've let a friend try my srh940, he didn't comment the sound , but that what he said : "they are very comfy".

 

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KRK KNS-6400: 4 points
Koss Pro DJ 100 (m50 pads): 9 points
Shure SRH-940: 3


I was a bit upset when I tried my ksc75. I found them too good for their price, and somehow I feel I was wasting my money with more expensive headphones. I'm not  surprised that this Koss Pro DJ 100 is a winner too. I don't know what is the most interesting top koss product.
 
You didn't rank the hd598, on this comparison. But I guess  you'd prefer the hd598 as a studio monitor. At least I found the  my hd595 more balanced; and the smoothness the hd595 are a relief, compared to the sometimes fatiguing  sound of the srh940.
 
@DarkAndroid

 

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But I think the main difference is that the HD-598 definitely has more bass impact than the SRH 940


I'm a bit surprised. Are you talking of bass quantity or quality ? I found that the quality of bass of the srh940 was better , than the hd595 (there's a better impact in the srh940). So I don't know if the bass of the hd598 was much improved compared to the hd595. Actually I 'd think that the hd595 has same quality, by looking at the 50 hz frequency response from headroom website.


@miceblue

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I randomly did a frequency chart comparison on Headphone.com between the SRH940's and the Ultrasone HFI-580 (one of my previously wanted headphones). The result?

 


The frequency response is representative of the bass quantity, but the square response
is representative of the bass quality. Let's see... The 50 hz square response is a bit better
for the ultrasone, but the contrary for 500hz.  confused_face_2.gif

Also I'll add ,  that the brightness of the srh940 vary with the source. They are the most aggressive, out of my xonar stx.  Listening to merzbow will make your ears bleed.biggrin.gif

@R-Audiohead

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The space that the "detail" is presented in is a little strange to me in the 940... I guess in a way this is a minor bash on the imaging?


Yeah the imaging is a bit uneven , out of the srh940. Yesterday, I played with the options of my cowon s9 (eq/ jeteffects), and managed to get something  more pleasing (so this player is totally worth it, even if it completely modifies the original sound biggrin.gif) .

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Not yet, but I will build a studio next week and compare them some more. Have you?

I only mentioned this because the SRH-940 didn't sound like what I'd expect of a studio monitor, but what do I know..anything is labeled as a studio monitor these days. I always thought that a studio monitor should be close to neutral as possible. It seems that very few are and I wonder why? Not even the V6, 7506, M50 or K240 Studio are...


 

 


Yep. Used them to record some vocals and to do preliminary mixes.

When I compared the output on my monitors, my 3.1 HT and my car, I definitely liked the output

of the 940s more. Maybe I can upload some snippets later tonight as I'm at work right now ;-)

(though be aware that I'm in no way a musician!! LOL!!!! :-p)

 

I think most of the "studio" monitors are slightly colored in mids and highs.

It could be done just for that, in order to exaggerate any sibilance, breathing sounds, etc. that you probably wouldn't

hear with standard monitors... not sure.

 

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gelocks - I see you also got HD600s recently (mine arrived this week).

 

What are your thoughts on the HD600 vs the SRH940 (and yes I know they are completely different).  My thoughts on the HD600 so far - early impressions - have wonderful balance, and sound far more natural;/accurate to me compared to the SRH940.  Everything that was "off" for me with the 940 is fixed by shifting to the HD600.

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Brooko, The hd600 is great isn't it? I like them better overall than the shures too.

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From the first time I put them on, I realised that they were exactly what I've been looking for over the last 12 months.  I think my wife can finally utter a sigh of relief for a while anyway wink.gif.

 

My next step was going to be grabbing a mid-range tube amp, but honestly the HD600 sounds so good with the Audio-gd NFB-12 so far, I think I'll just hold off for a while and enjoy what I have.  I was so let down by the SRH940 (because I really did enjoy the 840) - but the HD600 so far are just incredible.  I guess I need a few months with them before I can state that the honeymoon is over - but these just really feel "right".

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- but these just really feel "right".


But are they spectacular with anything in particular ? I'd bet they would show their limit with  techno, or metal.

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But are they spectacular with anything in particular ? I'd bet they would show their limit with  techno, or metal.


Not really a techno or metal listener.  Closest I get to techno is some slow electronic (Little Dragon) and a bit of Trance (mainly with female vocals).  The HD600 is a bit slow for Trance - but that's what I have the DT880's for anyway.

 

I cover a lot of genres - but my main go-to at the moment would be Prog Rock, Psychedelic Rock, Modern Jazz, Indie, Indie Folk, Classic Rock, Acoustic Rock, anything with  female vocals - and throw in a little classical and opera to cap it off.

 

So far (for my music over the last couple of days) - the HD600's are exactly what I've been looking for.

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Metal and techno is great with the hd600s too :) I tell ya I like the hd600s even more than some high end cans like the he6. Sorry for the off topic hd600 posts. Now back to the shure srh940 lovefest.

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I know i am knew here, and i am only a novice in audiophilia and the like but i personally think the bass in the 840s was to forward and not nearly as tight in comparison with the 940s.

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gelocks - I see you also got HD600s recently (mine arrived this week).

 

What are your thoughts on the HD600 vs the SRH940 (and yes I know they are completely different).  My thoughts on the HD600 so far - early impressions - have wonderful balance, and sound far more natural;/accurate to me compared to the SRH940.  Everything that was "off" for me with the 940 is fixed by shifting to the HD600.


Well... if you see my signature, that's actually my order of preference... LOL ;-)

 

To be honest, I guess I expected MORE from the HD600s (based on the praises from SO many people).

First time I listened to them I quickly noted the warmer signature and the smooth overall "tone" of the cans.

Sat listening for over 2 hours non-stop. Demoed metalcore, post-hardcore, indie, electro-pop, DnB, house,

electronica, etc.

 

Enjoyed what I heard. But NOTHING jumped at me more than the 940s other than bass presence and response.

I even thought mids were slightly recessed (I guess I'm just comparing it to such a Forward mid-sounding phone that

it makes the 600s sound recessed?!?). Maybe it's my amp? (Icon HDP which is supposed to perform well with these...)

 

Of the genres I usually listen to, I actually enjoyed acoustic, post-hardcore and indie more on the HD600s but

everything else I still was reaching for the 940s (yes, even electronica and DnB... guess because most of

the songs I have feature female vocals which to me sounds tasty on the 940s...)

 

Still, as I always say, it could be that my ears are just USED to the "Shure sound"...

I cannot compare less than 20 hours on the HD600s to more than 400 on the 940s (and a couple of years

worth on the 440s..).

 

I guess it's a matter of time... but seeing that I spend more time at the office (where I use the 940s and soon

the Panasonic rp-htf600-s) and less at home (where I have the HD600s...) I don't see a change of preference

any time soon...

 

but who knows!? ;-)


 

Enjoy your HD600s though.

I love how they look, how comfortable they are and the overall tone (as it is very different from the Shures ;-)).

 

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Do any of you SRH-940 fans also love the HD-598? I kind of having a feeling you would! It'll be interesting to compare my recabled HD-598 to the SRH-940 for vocals.

The really thick and highly textured mids of the SRH-940 almost remind me of the HD-598's mids. The mids on the HD-598 are forward and engaging, but the mids of the SRH-940 seem even MORE forward. The treble of the HD-598 is definitely less bothersome.

 

Detail on the HD-598 is actually very good, but with the stock cable the sound clarity isn't anything all that impressive. Maybe a tiny step down from the SRH-940.The HD-598 is a lot smoother sounding and slightly more forgiving of source quality.

 

The mids on the SRH-940 are definitely not thin or lacking even remotely to me. I must be deaf, but they keep reminding me of Sennheiser like mids, but even better. If the HD-598 had the mids of the SRH-940, but were less forward, I'd be set for a long time!

 

For those wondering about the KRK KNS-6400. It's an impressive headphone for the price, but some say they're un-musical (more than one person!) and kind of thin and boring. I absolutely love them though! One thing I noticed is that the bass took a nose dive once I stopped using them with my Ipod Touch?! BTW all my tests for the SRH-940 were with a DAC and a desktop amp. Somehow my Ipod Touch seems to add in too much bass for the D2000 and M50. Strange. It seems there's now quite a few people that prefer the 8400 over the 6400. I prefer the more forward mids of the 6400 over the 8400. I have a feeling that people in a studio might prefer the KRKs over the SRH-940. Someday I'm sure someone will compare them that runs a studio, but this seems rare. It seems the biggest complaint of them is that they lack bass. I'm OK with it though. Just not much bass impact.

 

Today I'll try a bunch of amps and sources with the SRH-940 and see if I can get it to sound different. I even have a lot of good cables to try, but they don't make a huge difference.

 

 

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Today I'll try a bunch of amps and sources with the SRH-940 and see if I can get it to sound different. I even have a lot of good cables to try, but they don't make a huge difference.

 


Great ! See what good dac or amp are best. I don't believe in the importance of  cable, but maybe if the cable have some important impedance, it makes a difference.

 


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 9/20/11 at 8:24am
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Just like to share with you Brooko my episode with the HD-600. At the time when I tried the HD-600 the fellow I both my MAD Ear Amp was also selling his HD-600 with Cardas cable and he let me used them for a week-end with also his Grado RS-2. At the time I owned some Grado SR-225 and K701 (recabled with SSA). For me the 600 never impressed me. I was always left looking for more clarity and more forward MID that my Grado SR-225 was giving me at the time. Also at the time the K701 was the headphone I used for Jazz and Live acoustic recording and again at the time the AKG won the test. I have to admit that I almost bought the RS-2 but because I had just bought the MAD I convince myself that the SR-225 were already pretty impressive with my new Tube acquisition that I kept my Grado and AKG and returned the HD-600 & RS-2.

 

Knowing how you like your MS1 I fear that you may be disappointed with the speed of the Sennheiser and the forward MID that the SRH940 are so good at. It's a different set of can with different characteristics but you might fine that they fill a spot in your collection for some genre. I personally ended up buying some HD-650 after trying Beyer 880/990 and others and like them for their comfort and relax way of presenting the music to you effortlessly.

 

Good luck with your search for the perfect phone.
 

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Not really a techno or metal listener.  Closest I get to techno is some slow electronic (Little Dragon) and a bit of Trance (mainly with female vocals).  The HD600 is a bit slow for Trance - but that's what I have the DT880's for anyway.

 

I cover a lot of genres - but my main go-to at the moment would be Prog Rock, Psychedelic Rock, Modern Jazz, Indie, Indie Folk, Classic Rock, Acoustic Rock, anything with  female vocals - and throw in a little classical and opera to cap it off.

 

So far (for my music over the last couple of days) - the HD600's are exactly what I've been looking for.



 


Edited by Twinster - 9/20/11 at 9:57am
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