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post #1711 of 3844
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

Indeed, DAC is more important than AMP, any day of the week.



Any day of the week is a pretty bold statement. A k1000, HE6 or anything very hard to drive no matter what the dac you have, if you drive them with a cmoy, you are not going to get much sound out of them at all so the importance really depends on how easy to power the headphones are.

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Originally Posted by rhythmdevils View Post

I don't agree, I think amps make a bigger difference but they're both important.  I think most DACs are pretty good these days. 


My experience has shown me that its about the whole upstream system you have for these new flagships (headphones like the HD800s, T1s, LCD-2s, etc...) to get the most out of them....headphones/cables/amp/interconnects/dac/source. smile.gif

 


Edited by MacedonianHero - 9/19/11 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

Miceblue, try this http://www.head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=113

 

 

Ah I see. I have read a lot of good things about the HiFiman products. Nice review for the Express by the way.

 

I have even less experience with DAC's than amps, so I'll probably read more about them at a later time. I'll keep the Express in my "want to buy" list. I'm actually going to start building my first Tangentsoft CMoy amp soon, but I'll need a line-out cable to hook it up to anything (or a FiiO L3 LOD)...which is also in my "want to buy" list.

 

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double post.


Edited by donunus - 9/19/11 at 4:52pm
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post




My experience has shown me that its about the whole upstream system you have for these new flagships (headphones like the HD800s, T1s, LCD-2s, etc...) to get the most out of them....headphones/cables/amp/interconnects/dac/source. smile.gif

 

 


Definitely. All parts af the system matters. Synergy between those parts and the headphone is key.

 

The difference in the importance of the amp vs dac is only significant if one was forced to compromise due to budget restraints or something like that. In which case, compromise the amps power and get maximum transparency with a good quality dac and amp if you have an easy to drive yet detailed headphone vs putting more money into a powerful amp over the ultimate transparency in the components when getting something very hard to drive like an he6. In the end, any kind of compromise isn't good so get both the best dac and amp you can buy since they are just as important as anything in the audio chain and one being the bottleneck can only ruin the sound of the entire system.

 

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Originally Posted by donunus View Post

 

Definitely. All parts af the system matters. Synergy between those parts and the headphone is key.

 

The difference in the importance of the amp vs dac is only significant if one was forced to compromise due to budget restraints or something like that. In which case, compromise the amps power and get maximum transparency with a good quality dac and amp if you have an easy to drive yet detailed headphone vs putting more money into a powerful amp over the ultimate transparency in the components when getting something very hard to drive like an he6. In the end, any kind of compromise isn't good so get both the best dac and amp you can buy since they are just as important as anything in the audio chain and one being the bottleneck can only ruin the sound of the entire system.

 

Well put. That's why I tend to always search out for a "neutral and transparent" DAC....makes matching it to a downstream amp a lot easier. For my HE-6s, I have a separate amp (Lyr) for them as my WA22 really can't drive them properly (although the rest of my headphones seem to work extremely well with it).

 

The HD800s are incredibly revealing of one's amp/dac/source/tubes/cables/etc.... and a proper upstream "rig" really should be built around them for them to truly reveal what they can do.

 

The great thing with headphones like the SRH940/840 & M50 (or most Grados up to the SR225i)  is that they can reach their potential without losing one's shirt to get there.
 

 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

Nice. Do you find that you get better sound isolation with the leather pads?

 


I think it's a better seal, yes.

 


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Originally Posted by donunus View Post

And is it a perfect fit?


The M50 pads are a little smaller and takes a bit of doing to get them on the 940
 

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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post

If you do the putty/Blu-Tack mods and use the 840 pads it also adds some bass weight. Not quite on the level of the 840 but brings it out more.


I got the Blu-Tac but it's still sitting unopened. I hate mucking around with headphones, I'm rather shy to do that sort of thing now. Seems I always end up undoing a mod because it inevitibly changes something else that I don't want changed. There's always a trade-off it seems.

 

I like the SRH940 at low to medium volume, they can get a bit painful if you crank them up. And the brightness seems to be OK at first, but you don't get used to it, it seems to get brighter the longer you listen.

 

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I think it's a better seal, yes.

 


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The M50 pads are a little smaller and takes a bit of doing to get them on the 940
 


I got the Blu-Tac but it's still sitting unopened. I hate mucking around with headphones, I'm rather shy to do that sort of thing now. Seems I always end up undoing a mod because it inevitibly changes something else that I don't want changed. There's always a trade-off it seems.

 

I like the SRH940 at low to medium volume, they can get a bit painful if you crank them up. And the brightness seems to be OK at first, but you don't get used to it, it seems to get brighter the longer you listen.

 


Dave, it must be quit the sonic shock going from your LCD-2s to the SRH-940s. Pretty polar opposites IMO.

 

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MacedonianHero,

I also agree with you that getting as neutral a DAC whenever possible is the first thing because once you have a boatload of cans, You can get amps to match cans for their power and current requirements and the synergy of sound between amp and cans will be easier to deal with when the dac is not in the way of things being that it is relatively neutral. But then again, If one had unlimited funds, It wouldn't really matter as much because the guy can just buy a dac, amp, cables, etc... for every single can he has hehehe.

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Originally Posted by donunus View Post

MacedonianHero,

I also agree with you that getting as neutral a DAC whenever possible is the first thing because once you have a boatload of cans, You can get amps to match cans for their power and current requirements and the synergy of sound between amp and cans will be easier to deal with when the dac is not in the way of things being that it is relatively neutral. But then again, If one had unlimited funds, It wouldn't really matter as much because the guy can just buy a dac, amp, cables, etc... for every single can he has hehehe.



Well...off to buy my weekly lottery ticket. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by donunus View Post

Any day of the week is a pretty bold statement. A k1000, HE6 or anything very hard to drive no matter what the dac you have, if you drive them with a cmoy, you are not going to get much sound out of them at all so the importance really depends on how easy to power the headphones are.



Fair enough, everything I have is very easy to drive, so my views on DAC versus AMP have most likely become skewed in that particular respect.

 

I'm an IEM person and I'm limiting my HP collection to a single 32 ohm headphone.

 

 

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Ok, since the srh940 are relatively easy to drive, I think someone that have a limited budget should focus first on the dac to run tem. The thing is that the difference between onboard sound and a xonar stx, is more obvious when using the srh940 , than the hd595. I would say that realtek onboard sound is decent with my hd595 , but not with my srh940.
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I would say the Hifiman Express HM-101 is better than realtek onboard sound, too... and only $40. smile.gif

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Comparing these now with my DJ100, M50, KRK KNS-6400 (A/B). They definitely don't sound cold and analytical. Definitely NOT thin sounding at all ever. In fact, to me they're kind of warm. Don't ask me why, but the mids (just how they sound, not the forwardness) kind of remind me of a more clear HD-600 with the treble of the K702. Huh?! Most instruments seem to carry a bit more weight than compared to how they are on my KRK. Vocals have a lot more texture. I don't know if I like this. Something must be wrong with me. Am I abnormal to prefer a thinner sounding headphone?!

 

They do remind me of the SRH-840 though. The treble is a bit bothersome and ruins many songs. It's not the recordings fault. Try listening to the Yoshida Brothers to see what I mean.

 

The biggest shocker is the that sound clarity is just GOOD. Just a step above the HD-600. You could call it somewhat of a detail monster or close to it, but it feels as if the mids are shoving all that detail into my face. Soundstage is just average so far. I've actually found a few things my KRK and DJ100 can pick up, but the SRH-940 can't.

 

These don't sound smooth or balanced to me yet. They do sound good, but not $300 Good. Some female vocals sounds great on them and others..not so much. Sometimes female vocals actually sounded very, very slightly muffled.

 

Not sure if I like them yet or not. They seem to be quite fatiguing. Even the mids are kind of fatiguing.

 

Honestly I couldn't see anyone using these as a studio monitor..signature seems even a bit more aggressive than my DJ100!

 

One very strange thing is that songs that were bad on my HD-650 were also bad on the SRH-940! Not sure why, but it's a bit weird.

 

 

Remember..these are just early impressions.

 

Right now I think I may prefer female vocals (a big reason I'm trying the SRH-940) on the HD-598 and DJ100. Vocals on the SRH-940 sound closer to the HD-598 than the DJ100 though. On the DJ100 they're clearer than the SRH-940 and HD-598.

 

Probably will be comparing these all night.

 

 

 

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but the wonderfully textured mids and crystal clear highs and female vocals getting shoved right into your face is why they are so good.

 

 

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