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post #1666 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post




I've briefly tried my 940 with the earpads from my ATH-M50. Brings up bass presence and absorbs some of that top.
 

 


Nice. Do you find that you get better sound isolation with the leather pads?

 

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And is it a perfect fit?

post #1668 of 3844
Ive tried it with pads from 840 and it added little bass but midrange spectrum wasnt that crystal clear. however I do find it too much bass shy even it has great midrange. I prefer portable dt1350 to 940 or dt880pro. Its just not universal HP - good for vocals, jazz, acoustic as someone said. both beyers are better allrounders.
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I've briefly tried my 940 with the earpads from my ATH-M50. Brings up bass presence and absorbs some of that top.
 

 


If you do the putty/Blu-Tack mods and use the 840 pads it also adds some bass weight. Not quite on the level of the 840 but brings it out more.
post #1670 of 3844
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post




Nice. Do you find that you get better sound isolation with the leather pads?

 


I've used the 840 pleather pads and don't find it's a big difference in isolation over the stock pads.

@zibra. I've found the 840 pads effect clarity a bit too. The putty/Blu-Tack mod doesn't though. .
Edited by baka1969 - 9/18/11 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post



I've used the 840 pleather pads and don't find it's a big difference in isolation over the stock pads.

@zibra. I've found the 840 pads effect clarity a bit too. The putty/Blu-Tack mod doesn't though. .


Cool...thanks Ross.

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

Simple...the SE535s destroys it at pretty much everything. tongue.gif

 

I strongly suggest you listen to a good speaker setup...and pay attention to the bass. Guess what? You can actually hear it....too bad some headphones try to hide this area of the audible spectrum and only push forward the mids/treble.



So you're saying the SE425's have weak bass?

 

 

post #1673 of 3844
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 



So you're saying the SE425's have weak bass?

 

 


I would classify it as too weak to be neutral (the 940s too, but I'd like to try them with Ross' mod...a bit more bass and less treble and I think Shure would have a real winner).

 

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2731&graphID[]=2721

 

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I had the 940's on max volume to make the bass satisfying, it was quite light but high quality, I think it could have used some more impact....

 

The bass on the SE535's sounded nice to me, better than K2 SP.

 

 

Several reviews have criticized the SE535 bass though, quote: "knocking on iron".

post #1675 of 3844
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

I had the 940's on max volume to make the bass satisfying, it was quite light but high quality, I think it could have used some more impact....

 

The bass on the SE535's sounded nice to me, better than K2 SP.

 

 

Several reviews have criticized the SE535 bass though, quote: "knocking on iron".


I haven't read those reviews, not do I care as I've owned them for more than a year and have been exceedingly happy. FWIW, here's a few more graphs that might shed more light on the quality of the SE535s bass:

 

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2731&graphID[]=3221

 

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=3&graphID[]=2731

 

Simply outstanding flat bass and the 50Hz square wave response very clearly shows that the drivers ability to reproduce the bass is outstanding.

 

post #1676 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Robobandit View Post

Here's what I heard on the Franz Ferdinand track -
In the beginning of the song, with the particularly heavy drum and cymbals.. I felt like his voice was being over-powered by the cymbals.. as they sounded front-and-center of the presentation.
When plugged into amp, the his voice seemed more on equal footing with the cymbals..
I'm not intimately familiar with that song.. and my ears are still learning.. (or rather I'm still learning to interpret what I hear.).. but it sounded more balanced when plugged into an amp... if that makes sense.
I listened in FLAC using the Vox application with no EQ applied, fyi..
Playing the HD-800 and Shure 940 out of an old Headroom amp (and you're not going to need anything better to hear the differences), the cymbals had more air and of course the bigger soundspace on the HD-800. I thought the cymbal clashes sounded somewhat dulled on the Shure 940. This is pretty much the same result as the test with the Porcupine Tree track, and like that one I can only say you have to listen yourself to appreciate the difference and/or figure out what it means. The Franz track may not be ideal for bass, but that was interesting too. The attacks of something there (low freq. kick drums, I dunno?) were slightly sharper sounding on the HD-800, but most other aspects of the bass were the same except for possibly the difference where people are talking about a "hole" in the 940's upper bass. I thought the 940 sounded better there than the HD-800, being a little less murky, and I suspect some people here (the ones who actually have these headphones) may prefer stronger and murky to clean and clear.

Bottom line - the differences are there and you can hear them, but they are nowhere near as dramatic as many posts here say. Absolutely nowhere near. And I judge the quality of everyone's reporting here by the level of hysteria they've expressed on this subject. The more hysterical, the less credible. FYI.
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post


I haven't read those reviews, not do I care as I've owned them for more than a year and have been exceedingly happy. FWIW, here's a few more graphs that might shed more light on the quality of the SE535s bass:

 

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2731&graphID[]=3221

 

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=3&graphID[]=2731

 

Simply outstanding flat bass and the 50Hz square wave response very clearly shows that the drivers ability to reproduce the bass is outstanding.

 


Ok fine let me mirror your attitude for a moment.

 

 

"The q-Jays is simply outstanding, I highly suggest you listen to some real speakers sometime so you know what real bass is, and listen to some real tweeters so you know what high-end extension is (which the SE535 simply doesn't have compared to the q-Jays, as is evidenced by science, not your silly subjective listening)

Simply outstanding flat bass and the 50Hz square wave response very clearly shows how much more outstanding than the SE535, simply outstanding high-end extension much more realistic for cymbals than the SE535."

 

 

 

q-jays versus se535.png

 

 

q-jays versus se535 50hz square wave.png

 


 

 

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^ Actually the Q-Jays are quite nice earphones when I heard them. But fell apart with instrumental separation and sound imaging with a wee too much treble for me.

post #1679 of 3844
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Originally Posted by oldshoe99 View Post


Bottom line - the differences are there and you can hear them, but they are nowhere near as dramatic as many posts here say. Absolutely nowhere near. And I judge the quality of everyone's reporting here by the level of hysteria they've expressed on this subject. The more hysterical, the less credible. FYI.

I'm talking about the 940s amped vs unamped... and only the 940s
Edited by Robobandit - 9/18/11 at 6:20pm
post #1680 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Robobandit View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by oldshoe99 View Post

Bottom line - the differences are there and you can hear them, but they are nowhere near as dramatic as many posts here say. Absolutely nowhere near. And I judge the quality of everyone's reporting here by the level of hysteria they've expressed on this subject. The more hysterical, the less credible. FYI.
I'm talking about the 940s amped vs unamped... and only the 940s
You'll get better sound in the highs amped - more "air", cleaner somehow. Not brighter though. But the bass also gets a little tighter, and that's where I can't say "better" absolutely. I think the bass is fine unamped, and for *me* it's also good amped, but that tighter, leaner sound might be a deal breaker for some people.
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