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post #1651 of 3844
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

If you'd like to convince yourself that I heard wrong, let's just say in theory the shop was selling a fake 840, and real 940.

 

 

 


I spent an extensive amount of time comparing the 940 and 840. I personally prefer the 940. Not because I think they're superior but because I'm not a fan of the 840's mid bass hump. As I observed before the drivers are very similar (possibly the same?) and the back of the cups are close in construction. It also looks that the both of them weren't built for acoustics. The back of the left and right cups from both headphones are vastly different from the left and right cup. It looks like it was thrown together. Search the thread for my pics and it's quite clear.

I can't wait to hear what Tyll has to say. While I may disagree with his preference, I believe Tyll's measurements will be done without bias and his assessments made from his experiences.
post #1652 of 3844
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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post



I spent an extensive amount of time comparing the 940 and 840. I personally prefer the 940. Not because I think they're superior but because I'm not a fan of the 840's mid bass hump. As I observed before the drivers are very similar (possibly the same?) and the back of the cups are close in construction. It also looks that the both of them weren't built for acoustics. The back of the left and right cups from both headphones are vastly different from the left and right cup. It looks like it was thrown together. Search the thread for my pics and it's quite clear.

I can't wait to hear what Tyll has to say. While I may disagree with his preference, I believe Tyll's measurements will be done without bias and his assessments made from his experiences.

I'm not an expert at EQ-ing, but couldn't you apply an EQ to tone down the 840's mid-bass hump? I know that some people do not like EQ-ing, but I just wanted to ask.

 

post #1653 of 3844
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post


I'm not an expert at EQ-ing, but couldn't you apply an EQ to tone down the 840's mid-bass hump? I know that some people do not like EQ-ing, but I just wanted to ask.

 


I don't like what EQing does to the sound. It sounds unnatural to me.
post #1654 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Tyll Hertsens View Post

I think I'm just going to have to do a Shure 840/940 review now.

 

I would really love to read that. It would even be better if there was a big "sub 500 dollar closed can" comparison on innerfidelity. I have yet to find the one for me. The 940s are detailed but I feel they are a little thin and bright in balance while the 840s are a little thick and bright while being dry. I really liked the den on d1001 but thought they were also a little thin sounding... Maybe the creative Aurvana live can slaughter these shires, who knows smily_headphones1.gif
post #1655 of 3844

 

@baka1969

 

Are you implying the 840 and 940 may have the same driver, and the only difference may be a mid-bass hump? Most likely not but I have to check...

 

The day I listened to the 940 I also heard the SE425, SE535 and 840, I didn't like any of the Shure products I tried (especially the 840), the 940 sounded 'very' different and was the 'saviour' of the Shure line to me, much better than their IEM flagship counterpart.

 

To me the SE535 had a "soggy cereal" sound to it, and I know one SE535 user that after hearing a Piano Forte started saying his SE535 sounds like mud.

As you can see I'm not a Shure or flagship lover at all, and the only thing that impressed me in the 940, was it's sound.

 


Edited by kiteki - 9/18/11 at 2:57am
post #1656 of 3844

 

840 versus 940

 

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post #1657 of 3844
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

@baka1969

 

Are you implying the 840 and 940 may have the same driver, and the only difference may be a mid-bass hump? Most likely not but I have to check...

 

The day I listened to the 940 I also heard the SE425, SE535 and 840, I didn't like any of the Shure products I tried (especially the 840), the 940 sounded 'very' different and was the 'saviour' of the Shure line to me, much better than their IEM flagship counterpart.

 

To me the SE535 had a "soggy cereal" sound to it, and I know one SE535 user that after hearing a Piano Forte started saying his SE535 sounds like mud.

As you can see I'm not a Shure or flagship lover at all, and the only thing that impressed me in the 940, was it's sound.

 


I can't say for certain Shure used the same driver. It wouldn't be unprecedented as Grado does it. But the drivers sure look very similar. Maybe they just voiced them differently?
post #1658 of 3844
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

@baka1969

 

Are you implying the 840 and 940 may have the same driver, and the only difference may be a mid-bass hump? Most likely not but I have to check...

 

The day I listened to the 940 I also heard the SE425, SE535 and 840, I didn't like any of the Shure products I tried (especially the 840), the 940 sounded 'very' different and was the 'saviour' of the Shure line to me, much better than their IEM flagship counterpart.

 

To me the SE535 had a "soggy cereal" sound to it, and I know one SE535 user that after hearing a Piano Forte started saying his SE535 sounds like mud.

As you can see I'm not a Shure or flagship lover at all, and the only thing that impressed me in the 940, was it's sound.

 


Different opinions - gotta love them wink.gif

 

Enjoyed the SRH840 more than the SRH940.  Loved the SE425, haven't tried the SE535 but definitely want to.  Had the cheaper Piano Forte II's for a couple of weeks - tried to like them, couldn't - they were just simply awful.  Wouldn't mind trying some of their upper end offerings, but the price is way out of my league.

 

Guess you and I are poles apart.  All good though.

post #1659 of 3844

 

I quite liked the SE425, it was a tiny bit dark but had amazing imaging and I could imagine long listening sessions with it, I'd like to try it agian, it's the SE535 I have issues with, most notably because I thought the SE425 felt nicer in my hand? (in construction), I told the sales rep "uhh... I think I prefer the SE425..." his reply: "but it only has 2 drivers!" Lol.

 

I haven't heard the Piano Forte's yet, was just quoting someone else.

 

Poles apart... I'm not sure, taste is one thing, but VGA versus SVGA like in my sunflower picture is another.

 

 

post #1660 of 3844

Gotta love sales people huh bigsmile_face.gif

 

Always surprised me that the SE425 didn't have a bigger following.  If it had a little more treble extension, I would have definitely kept it.

 

Have you heard the DT880s?  I absolutely love mine - thought they were boring for start - but after about 4 weeks continuous use they have become a different can to me - I think the Audio-gd NFB-12 has probably helped a lot.

post #1661 of 3844

Never heard the DT880's.

 

No idea why SE425 isn't popular, it's priced pretty well, perhaps it's the "only 2 driver" thing... anyway it sounds MUCH better than the J-phonic K2 SP and I'd use the SE425 as both a stage monitor or for music listening over the K2 SP.

 

 

post #1662 of 3844
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

Never heard the DT880's.

 

No idea why SE425 isn't popular, it's priced pretty well, perhaps it's the "only 2 driver" thing... anyway it sounds MUCH better than the J-phonic K2 SP and I'd use the SE425 as both a stage monitor or for music listening over the K2 SP.

 

 



Simple...the SE535s destroys it at pretty much everything. tongue.gif

 

I strongly suggest you listen to a good speaker setup...and pay attention to the bass. Guess what? You can actually hear it....too bad some headphones try to hide this area of the audible spectrum and only push forward the mids/treble.


Edited by MacedonianHero - 9/18/11 at 7:02am
post #1663 of 3844
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
Simple...the SE535s destroys it at pretty much everything. tongue.gif

 

I strongly suggest you listen to a good speaker setup...and pay attention to the bass. Guess what? You can actually hear it....too bad some headphones try to hide this area of the audible spectrum and only push forward the mids/treble.



Destroys it, really?  So, if I leave a pair next to the SE535 overnight, I'm going to only find charred remains of the SE425 the next day?wink.gif


Edited by Digital-Pride - 9/18/11 at 10:09am
post #1664 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Digital-Pride View Post





Destroys it, really?  So, if I leave a pair next the SE535 overnight, I'm going to only find charred remains of the SE425 the next day?wink.gif


Exactly. biggrin.gif

 

post #1665 of 3844
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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post



I spent an extensive amount of time comparing the 940 and 840. I personally prefer the 940. Not because I think they're superior but because I'm not a fan of the 840's mid bass hump. As I observed before the drivers are very similar (possibly the same?) and the back of the cups are close in construction. It also looks that the both of them weren't built for acoustics. The back of the left and right cups from both headphones are vastly different from the left and right cup. It looks like it was thrown together. Search the thread for my pics and it's quite clear.

I can't wait to hear what Tyll has to say. While I may disagree with his preference, I believe Tyll's measurements will be done without bias and his assessments made from his experiences.


I've briefly tried my 940 with the earpads from my ATH-M50. Brings up bass presence and absorbs some of that top.
 

 

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