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post #1276 of 3844
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Originally Posted by oldshoe99 View Post


If the 940 has "thin" bass then the Senn HD800 has thin bass, since they are virtually identical.

And this focus on female vocals? Male vocals sound very male (and very excellent) on the Shure 940.

On the srh940, the "mid - high" region is more emphasized, than the mids.   Because they are "skewed" toward the highs, I  guess that's the reason why the female voice  sound the best on them.
 

 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post



On the srh940, the "mid - high" region is more emphasized, than the mids.   Because they are "skewed" toward the highs, I  guess that's the reason why the female voice  sound the best on them.
 

 

See, that's the thing that doesn't compute. For example, if all of my music sounded dull, I would want a brighter headphone or boost the treble. If all of my music was too bassy I thought, I would want to reduce the bass. In other words, compensate. I would not want a bassy headphone for bassy music, or a bright headphone for music that's already bright. So it doesn't make sense to get a bright headphone for female vocals, it makes more sense to get a bright headphone for male vocals, to balance things out.
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 I would not want a bassy headphone for bassy music, or a bright headphone for music that's already bright.

I  can see some logic behind this, but this doesn't always work. I   think the high of srh940 are "more forward", eq-ing won't fix that. Perhaps something that could affect soundstage depending of frequency, just like the cowon players allows it.

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If any SRH-940 owners want to upgrade to a better can and trade with me, hit me up http://www.head-fi.org/t/571378/wtt-audio-technica-ath-a2000x-l3000-pads-for-shure-srh-940-or-tesla-w-w-shipping-from-australia

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I'm a newbie audiophile like you who has embarked on the (misguided???) quest for sound perfection. Lookin forward to hearing your impressions with the SRH 940s and how the E7/E9 change their sound. I have the SRH 940 too and plan on getting the E7/E9 sometime next week. Also, it will be nice to hear your perceived differences in the sound signature between the 840 or 940, as I almost decided to buy the 840 but decided to go with the more expensive 940 instead, so I'm a little curious about how the 840 sounds relative to the 940. Welcome to Head-fi. And sorry for your wallet. :->


I'm pretty sure that I didn't say anything about perfection smily_headphones1.gif

I'm just looking for a nice set of headphones.. and plan to stop (go ahead, laugh smily_headphones1.gif ) after I find a pair that is good at my preferred types of music. Right now, it sounds weird to me that people would change headphones for a different song.. maybe if I hang out here long enough I'll find the logic in that.. but for now, it's not something I'm interested in doing.. I'd wear them out switching back and forth with my library on random play biggrin.gif
post #1281 of 3844
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post



On the srh940, the "mid - high" region is more emphasized, than the mids.   Because they are "skewed" toward the highs, I  guess that's the reason why the female voice  sound the best on them.
 

 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post



I  can see some logic behind this, but this doesn't always work. I   think the high of srh940 are "more forward", eq-ing won't fix that. Perhaps something that could affect soundstage depending of frequency, just like the cowon players allows it.

I've read several places where people talk about the 940 having similar brightness as the HD800, but I've never read where the HD800 was suggested for female vocals, so that is apparently a myth created in the Malveaux review and picked up many times afterward here.
post #1282 of 3844
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Originally Posted by oldshoe99 View Post


I've read several places where people talk about the 940 having similar brightness as the HD800, but I've never read where the HD800 was suggested for female vocals, so that is apparently a myth created in the Malveaux review and picked up many times afterward here.


You'd see me comparisons of the srh940 with the k701. Anyway , coming from the hd595, I didn't notice an improvement regarding vocals. I think listening some katie melua is nicer on the hd595

 

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I tried both SRH940 and HD800 unamped straight out of my portable players and found HD800 to be much better balanced. I didn't think it shared much in common with SRH940. The bass and mids are right where they should be with the HD800, but with the SRH940 they lacked presence to my ears.

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One thing is for Shure... all the headphones being discussed are much better than the OKG Kay seven-oh-won.

post #1285 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

I tried both SRH940 and HD800 unamped straight out of my portable players and found HD800 to be much better balanced. I didn't think it shared much in common with SRH940. The bass and mids are right where they should be with the HD800, but with the SRH940 they lacked presence to my ears.

I just did the same thing and found them to be nearly identical. Maybe your samples are off-spec somehow.
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I have a theory about the female vocals thing, but I wanted to test it first. My tracks were:

Ayako Akashiba - Winter in July
Barbara Manning - San Diego Zoo
Calista Flockhart - Santa Baby
Danielle Howle - While I Miss You
Ellens Gesang III - Ave Maria
Emiliana Torrini - Baby Blue
Hazel O'Connor - Will You
Ingrid Michaelson - The Way I Am
Kate Paradise - Mean To Me
Kim Carnes - Bette Davis Eyes (Acoustic)
Melody Gardot - Goodnite
Meryl Streep - I'm Checkin' Out of this Heartbreak Hotel
Patsy Cline - Crazy
Sophie Milman - Lonely In New York
Venissa Santi - Tender Shepard

The sound with the 940 was good, but the brightness (as with the HD800 also) made the female vocals a little more sibilant and breathy than ideal, which makes me think that those who prefer the 940 for female vocals are actually trying to exaggerate the breathiness, as some kind of sensual thing that has nothing to do with accurate repro of the female voice.
Edited by oldshoe99 - 9/13/11 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

One thing is for Shure... all the headphones being discussed are much better than the OKG Kay seven-oh-won.

I've seen some posts on Facebook in the past few days that warn about fake versions of popular headphones. Fakes so good that they fool most people. I suppose a factory in China that produces the 940 could have a "sister" factory somewhere producing knockoffs, so it would be good to make shure yours are from a reliable source.
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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

I tried both SRH940 and HD800 unamped straight out of my portable players and found HD800 to be much better balanced. I didn't think it shared much in common with SRH940. The bass and mids are right where they should be with the HD800, but with the SRH940 they lacked presence to my ears.


Yeah, "unbalanced" is the first word that came to my mind when testing the srh940. I  think that burning helps a bit, just give them a week before dismissing them.

 

@kiteki

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One thing is for Shure... all the headphones being discussed are much better than the OKG Kay seven-oh-won.

I  was planning to get the k701 before. Still wondering if I would have not preferred them, despite the reviews.  I  have an other idea of "nice highs".  I prefer the ones coming from my audioengine a2 speakers for instance ("crystal clear"). So even if the SRH940 are supposed to be "winners" in that area, I'm a bit disappointed .

 

@oldshoe99

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I just did the same thing and found them to be nearly identical. Maybe your samples are off-spec somehow.

Just sell your hd800.

post #1289 of 3844
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

 


Yeah, "unbalanced" is the first word that came to my mind when testing the srh940. I  think that burning helps a bit, just give them a week before dismissing them.

 

@kiteki

I  was planning to get the k701 before. Still wondering if I would have not preferred them, despite the reviews.  I  have an other idea of "nice highs".  I prefer the ones coming from my audioengine a2 speakers for instance ("crystal clear"). So even if the SRH940 are supposed to be "winners" in that area, I'm a bit disappointed .

 

@oldshoe99

Just sell your hd800.

I think all these assertions that the 940 sounds like this or that don't inform much. If you're going to compare to a HD800 you should either have two identical-spec outputs on the same amp with independent volume controls, so you can compare quickly at the same relative volume. Or use two identical players with the volumes adjusted so each headphone sounds as loud as the other. Then, if your test is good, the next step would be to list some tracks that are easy to obtain and exactly what the differences are. I read the reviews saying the 940 was the equivalent of the 800, and other reviews that said the opposite. Not very informative, is it?
post #1290 of 3844
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Just sell your hd800.
Oops - forgot this. No, don't sell the 800. It has that big, lush soundstage. Worth keeping for that alone.
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