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post #1261 of 3844
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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post

Anyways... back to the SRH940...

 

 

I agree the Grado may be more in line with musical tastes. I much preferred my Grados (SR60 and SR325) for rock and metal. I prefer the SRH940 for vocals, indie, folk, acoustic and some jazz.

 

Very best,


Yup - totally agree Mal.  Although for acoustic rock - currently listening to Clapton Unplugged - I'd go Grado/Alessandro again.

 

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Glad to see you guys are enjoying the SRH940, but I must say that I was quite underwhelmed by their sound. Now, I did not amp them, but do they really require an amp? Because the SRH840 sounds just fine to me without one. I found the sound of unamped SRH940 out of my Sony and Sansa Clip DAPs and onboard PC soundcards to be pretty mediocre. The main problem to my ears was that the lows and the lower mids seemed quite recessed compared to the upper mids and treble. They are not harsh sounding, but I did find them a tad grainy. The detail is really excellent indeed, but the sound was not musical to me and not accurate either - just too bright sounding with rather thin bass and lacking a low midrange presence. I found SRH840 to be significantly better balanced unamped out of the same sources with the same music.

 

Just my 2 cents.


Edited by Pianist - 9/12/11 at 7:09pm
post #1263 of 3844

@Pianist, if you can, let them burn-in for a week or so then see how they sound. When I got mine, I was pretty dissapointed too, but after a week or so I swear they sound so much better than they did out of the box. Ive never even used them with an amp or DAC, though I plan to get one soon. I think they even sound better than my HD 598s, though they dont have as much bass impact.

post #1264 of 3844
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Originally Posted by DarkAndroid View Post

@Pianist, if you can, let them burn-in for a week or so then see how they sound. When I got mine, I was pretty dissapointed too, but after a week or so I swear they sound so much better than they did out of the box. Ive never even used them with an amp or DAC, though I plan to get one soon. I think they even sound better than my HD 598s, though they dont have as much bass impact.



While burn in can slightly improve a headphone (typically more refined treble and tighter bass), it does not completely change a headphone's sound signature. My experiences are very similar to Tyll's:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/testing-audibility-break-effects

 

FWIW, my listening session was with a pair of very well burned in SRH940s played through a Peachtree NOVA and my experiences are very much in line with Pianist's. YMMV of course.

post #1265 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

 I found the sound of unamped SRH940 out of my Sony and Sansa Clip DAPs and onboard PC soundcards to be pretty mediocre.

 

Try from a better DAC, and wait a week , while using/burning  them. The sansa clip is not the best source for the srh940 from what I've experimented (tested  out of xonar stx, cowon s9, and sansa clip:  sansa is the worst, and quite  behind cowon)  .

I  hope they don't suck too much with onboard sound, as I  plan to use them on an other computer.  Maybe they need a minimal amping,  that the sansa clip isn't able to provide (because there's always some amping in a source from what i've read).

 

Also maybe musically just you don't like them...

 

post #1266 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

Glad to see you guys are enjoying the SRH940, but I must say that I was quite underwhelmed by their sound. Now, I did not amp them, but do they really require an amp? Because the SRH840 sounds just fine to me without one. I found the sound of unamped SRH940 out of my Sony and Sansa Clip DAPs and onboard PC soundcards to be pretty mediocre. The main problem to my ears was that the lows and the lower mids seemed quite recessed compared to the upper mids and treble. They are not harsh sounding, but I did find them a tad grainy. The detail is really excellent indeed, but the sound was not musical to me and not accurate either - just too bright sounding with rather thin bass and lacking a low midrange presence. I found SRH840 to be significantly better balanced unamped out of the same sources with the same music.

 

Just my 2 cents.


Pretty much agree.  Mids are gorgeous - wonderful for female vocals, but I agree that they're not 'musical' for a wide variety of genres.  Just sold mine - they leave the house tomorrow.  And I agree that the 840's were definitely better balanced - just wish they (840's) didn't have that mid-bass hump.

 

FWIW I tried amped and unamped, and even with bass boost, they just didn't sound 'right' to me.

post #1267 of 3844

At the rate you folks seem to go through headphones, I might never have to buy a new pair again! 

 

I recently stumbled onto the quest for an improved audio experience.. and here I am 2 weeks later with a pair of SRH840s on my head and a pair of SRH940s and a E7/E9 combo on the way.. (should be here on wednesday.. ).

 

 

Might be too late for me at this point, as I'm sure it only gets worse from here.

 

It's been entertaining reading this thread, though it really is amazing how subjective everything really is. To read some of the responses here you'd think people were talking about several entirely different headphones instead of the same model. If nothing else it will be an adventure.

post #1268 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

Glad to see you guys are enjoying the SRH940, but I must say that I was quite underwhelmed by their sound. Now, I did not amp them, but do they really require an amp? Because the SRH840 sounds just fine to me without one. I found the sound of unamped SRH940 out of my Sony and Sansa Clip DAPs and onboard PC soundcards to be pretty mediocre. The main problem to my ears was that the lows and the lower mids seemed quite recessed compared to the upper mids and treble. They are not harsh sounding, but I did find them a tad grainy. The detail is really excellent indeed, but the sound was not musical to me and not accurate either - just too bright sounding with rather thin bass and lacking a low midrange presence. I found SRH840 to be significantly better balanced unamped out of the same sources with the same music.

 

Just my 2 cents.


Yup I agree with you on the recessed bass. I also agree with MacedonianHero, burn in doesn't completely change a headphone's sound signature. The 940's bass is not the focus on these headphones, but that's what I kind of wanted in my next pair of headphones.

For bassier music, I apply an EQ and the bass is adequate for me. After hearing a bunch of bass heavy headphones in the past, the 940's sound signature is welcoming to me. Female vocals and highs are awesome with the 940's.

To me, recessed lows/mid-lows are better than recessed mids or highs like other headphones I've heard. Honestly I wasn't expecting the 940's thin bass to surprise me after reading the comments in this thread.
post #1269 of 3844
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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post

Heya,

 

Ugh. See, this is what the internet does.

 

"Never heard the headphone, but I have an authoritative opinion on it."

 

Anyways... back to the SRH940...

 

 

I agree the Grado may be more in line with musical tastes. I much preferred my Grados (SR60 and SR325) for rock and metal. I prefer the SRH940 for vocals, indie, folk, acoustic and some jazz.

 

Very best,

 

Ugh. I guess you two haven't played much with electric drums, have you? My point was regarding the isolation, duh.

 

Takes an idiot to recommend Grados for electric drumming. Don't need to have listened to the 940 to have formed that opinion. And again, I said nothing about the 940 other except deduced poor isolation (for drumming) based on experience with 840. I only said that I would not necessarily tag "fun" to Grados. And I've heard many Grados. You people need to learn to read what other people say, instead of rant something based off the first sentence rolleyes.gif
 

My last comment "Why can't accuracy be fun?", was merely a question pointed to 200poundsofamp's comment two pages back. Done nothing questionable. I don't see a single thing here that would've required for me to listen to the 940... Still interested though :) But on the other hand, preliminary experience with the KNS8400 seemed so good, I might not even order these, mainly due to the portability issue... frown.gif


Edited by electropop - 9/13/11 at 1:11am
post #1270 of 3844

Hi

 

I wanna ask something,i've asked it again here a few months ago,but it's been a long time since i've last visited this thread,and there are so many posts now...and i don't have much time to check it again,so if someone could help me.

 

I have 840 and i like the sound,only thing i don't like about the sound that much,is that mid bass-bass is a bit more emphasized than i like it to be.

Also comfort is ok now,but i would like them to be a bit more comfortable.

 

So if i use 940 velour pads,on my 840,do i solve these 2 problems?

 

If somebody have experience with 940 pads on 840,please tell me...

 

 

post #1271 of 3844
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Originally Posted by john53 View Post

Hi

 

I wanna ask something,i've asked it again here a few months ago,but it's been a long time since i've last visited this thread,and there are so many posts now...and i don't have much time to check it again,so if someone could help me.

 

I have 840 and i like the sound,only thing i don't like about the sound that much,is that mid bass-bass is a bit more emphasized than i like it to be.

Also comfort is ok now,but i would like them to be a bit more comfortable.

 

So if i use 940 velour pads,on my 840,do i solve these 2 problems?

 

If somebody have experience with 940 pads on 840,please tell me...

 

 


No. The 940 pads will not cure the 840 mid bass hump. It's just inherent in the 840.
post #1272 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Robobandit View Post

At the rate you folks seem to go through headphones, I might never have to buy a new pair again! 

 

I recently stumbled onto the quest for an improved audio experience.. and here I am 2 weeks later with a pair of SRH840s on my head and a pair of SRH940s and a E7/E9 combo on the way.. (should be here on wednesday.. ).

 

 

Might be too late for me at this point, as I'm sure it only gets worse from here.

 

It's been entertaining reading this thread, though it really is amazing how subjective everything really is. To read some of the responses here you'd think people were talking about several entirely different headphones instead of the same model. If nothing else it will be an adventure.


I'm a newbie audiophile like you who has embarked on the (misguided???) quest for sound perfection. Lookin forward to hearing your impressions with the SRH 940s and how the E7/E9 change their sound. I have the SRH 940 too and plan on getting the E7/E9 sometime next week. Also, it will be nice to hear your perceived differences in the sound signature between the 840 or 940, as I almost decided to buy the 840 but decided to go with the more expensive 940 instead, so I'm a little curious about how the 840 sounds relative to the 940. Welcome to Head-fi. And sorry for your wallet. :->

post #1273 of 3844
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Originally Posted by DarkAndroid View Post




I'm a newbie audiophile like you who has embarked on the (misguided???) quest for sound perfection. Lookin forward to hearing your impressions with the SRH 940s and how the E7/E9 change their sound. I have the SRH 940 too and plan on getting the E7/E9 sometime next week. Also, it will be nice to hear your perceived differences in the sound signature between the 840 or 940, as I almost decided to buy the 840 but decided to go with the more expensive 940 instead, so I'm a little curious about how the 840 sounds relative to the 940. Welcome to Head-fi. And sorry for your wallet. :->

Not everything is subjective. Some of us make careful comparisons to known references, and most of us don't.

Edit: Wrong quote - should have used prior msg.
Edited by oldshoe99 - 9/13/11 at 6:33am
post #1274 of 3844
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

Honestly I wasn't expecting the 940's thin bass to surprise me after reading the comments in this thread.
If the 940 has "thin" bass then the Senn HD800 has thin bass, since they are virtually identical.

And this focus on female vocals? Male vocals sound very male (and very excellent) on the Shure 940.
post #1275 of 3844
I've been trying to think about how to ask a question and I think I have it -- If a person is listening to female vocals and their sense of female vocals is that they differ from male vocals being higher in pitch (on average) and having less bassy tone (on average), then don't you think a headphone with more bass (not less bass) would be a better match? If you're picking a headphone with less bass to go with vocals that have less bassy tone, then you would be compounding the issue of thinness of the sound, yes? It's the same principle of picking a bass-heavy headphone to play bass-heavy music -- you compound the bassiness to the point of absurdity, and complete muddiness.
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