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post #1126 of 3844

Received my SRH940 today and I'm listening to some of my reference track (Pat Metheny, Patrick Watson, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Pulse, Radiohead & Al Di Meola to name a few) and so far out of my Dacport I'm not craving for more Bass. I like how nice and smooth the MID's are and the HI are just great (no sibilance so far). I'm using the original velour's pad but I also got the SRH840 Pleather pads that I will try later. I sold the Q701 for these and so far I'm happy with the trade. biggrin.gif

 

Note: Just tried Angel from Massive Attack and the Bass is nicely reproduced and the little meow sound at 42 sec in the track is clearly audible (not always the case with other phone)

 

Note2: The cymbals and hi-hat are just so clear and well layered.

 

Note3: Try this track with the 940


Edited by Twinster - 9/1/11 at 1:56pm
post #1127 of 3844

Heya,

 

So I picked up another SRH940 used for a lot less than the retail one I bought and returned. So I have my SRH940 again, for $100 less. Yay! Now awaiting Digizoid ZO revision 2 this month. Then the super question of the universe will finally be answered: Is the SRH940 + Didizoid ZO r2 the ultimate setup for it's price. Because even now, the mids/highs of the SRH940 still leave me craving when I touch even flagships. SRH940's with female vocals and acoustic is just so hauntingly realistic. Can't get enough. Gonna be my portable until the T70p ships so I can try that, and... well, we'll see. Hah. Cycles... Cycles.. Cycles...

 

Very best,

post #1128 of 3844

@Twinster

 

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I sold the Q701 for these and so far I'm happy with the trade. biggrin.gif

Great, so we could consider the srh940 as a k701/Q701/K702 killer ?   At least , the srh940 don't have  complicated amping requirements.

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Note: Just tried Angel from Massive Attack and the Bass is nicely reproduced and the little meow sound at 42 sec in the track is clearly audible (not always the case with other phone)

 

Interesting, but I'm able to hear the "meow" with some cheap 10$ headphone, while I'm unable to hear it on my speakers (altec lansing fx6021 ).

 

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Note2: The cymbals and hi-hat are just so clear and well layered.

 

It's one complaint I  had, I  found the percussions a bit  over-emphasized. On pop music, it sound sometimes unbalanced.

 


Note3: Try this track with the 940

 

Yeah, I  might as well listen to Kodo .

Oh just found a very nice track of the same kind (at least for the begin) , Eraser by "Nine Inch nails" thanks to last.fm

 

 

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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post
Is the SRH940 + Didizoid ZO r2 the ultimate setup for it's price.

You might try as well the mach3bass from cowon, but anythingbutipod review claim that the ZO  is a better enhancement. Anyway with mach3bass I  got a decent result, but it still couldn't compete with the senn IE7 (I  mean: in term of "strong" bass)


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 9/1/11 at 4:34pm
post #1129 of 3844

I just listen to Train from PT and I have to say that the clapping sound as good as my DT1350 and Ortofon eQ5 from the Dacport. To start that clapping sound is digitize and not real (That how it sound to me across the 3) Were you listening to a lossless version? what was the source used?
 

Note: I will try it later with my MS2i.

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More power to you then.  Personally it annoyed the heck out of me.  I know the song.  It sounds roughly the same on my Beyers as it does on my MS1is (not tone, MS1 is warmer - but impact and depth).  It's a song I know well and really like.  On the Shures, this section just sounded really flat.

 

Imagine one of your tracks that you know really well.  Everything sounds really good (warm mids, amazing clarity), then you get to a certain section and it just "jars" because the whole piece sounds very wrong.  That's what I got.



 

post #1130 of 3844

It's a really confusing can - the 940.  The actual bass extension is so good it's scary.  I would say that on about 75% of the music I've listened to so far, everything sounds fantastic - mids, highs, even the bass.  The problem is the other 20-25%.  I could get used to the sound in time - but at this stage I'm not really sure if I want to.

 

The mid range on my Alessandros is almost as good with the mods I've done so far - and the more I compare the two, the more I realise how close the two are.  The difference is the speed of the Alessandros and also the bass quality.  The MS1s are just more to my liking.

 

I spent a lot of hours over the last week - and I'm pretty sure now that the 940's will go.  As will my DT880s probably.  Next stop almost certainly the HD600.  I'm hoping that for me they will cure what I personally am missing on both the 940 (mid-bass) and DT880 (mids).

post #1131 of 3844
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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post


I must disagree, though, that the HD800 and 940 sound similar. I think they sound pretty different. The HD800 has a more open sound, bigger soundstaging, better imaging and more bass impact plus are more detailed. I admit the $300 Shure can't compare to the $1400 Senn. I think the Shure does well within it's price point.

 

 

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Add me to the list too Ross...nothing alike.
 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

 

Too bad, can't enjoy the "1400$ sound", without shelling out the cash.  Maybe with the latest stax ...

 

 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post


Really, not even close! tongue.gif

 

Sorry.

 



What sources and amps did you compare them with if I may ask? I'm just curious to know how some people can find them to sound very similar and others saying they sound totally different.

 

post #1132 of 3844
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What sources and amps did you compare them with if I may ask? I'm just curious to know how some people can find them to sound very similar and others saying they sound totally different.

 


I use my laptop with lossless music into my Cary Xciter DAC to the beta22 amp.

Peter used a nice Cambridge CDP and a Wyred 4 Sound DAC with the Woo WA22 amp.

It's a matter of crap in crap out. To me the differences between the HD800 and 940 are not subtle. I guess if you plug the HD800 into an iPod then you may not hear as big a difference.
post #1133 of 3844

Ahh that makes sense. I have a feeling that the shures don't improve as much as the 300 ohm senns with those amps. Maybe out of a modest system who knows? maybe they do have a resemblance.

post #1134 of 3844

The srh940 improve by using a good DAC, and some burning (even if they sound fine from the begin).

post #1135 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Twinster View Post

Note2: The cymbals and hi-hat are just so clear and well layered.

 



Yes, the 940's love percussion. This is great as I love it too!


 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

Great, so we could consider the srh940 as a k701/Q701/K702 killer ?   At least , the srh940 don't have  complicated amping requirements.

 


It's one complaint I  had, I  found the percussions a bit  over-emphasized. On pop music, it sound sometimes unbalanced.

 


 

It killed the 702's for me as I've mentioned several times. The 701/02's are still great headphones imo, but the 940 are even better.

 

I don't find the percussion over done, I just find it more detailed than with other phones. But it doesn't sound disjointed.
 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

The srh940 improve by using a good DAC, and some burning (even if they sound fine from the begin).


All, (or almost all modern DAC's of some quality at least) sound the same (I overbought with my DAC Magic and will be buying a much cheaper DAC when it goes...half the price or less). I've heard DAC's/cdp costing tens of thousands compared to those costing a couple of hundred; blind no one could tell a difference. And the reason is they all do the same thing: convert digital to analog and there is not much (if any) room for sound variations in that no matter what marketing hype/voodoo math is behind it.

 

Physical burn in, similarly, simply does not exist...at least past a few seconds, or at the very most, a couple of hours (not likely though). 

 

However amps, with their various tech spec variations, can make a difference in sound although two amps that have the same tech specs, even if they have wildly different prices, will sound the same (yes, I've heard these tested blind: no one could tell which was the cheapo $160 receiver amp and which the several integrateds costing several to tens of thousands with the same specs we compared it too; but people could tell the difference between amps of similar or hugely varying prices if they had significantly different specs). So all my cans sound somewhat better through my M Stage than my Cowon or integrated amp headphone out for instance, although not widely so.

 

If you want to get the best out of the 940's try various amps for some/slight differences, anything else will not produce any real ones, except maybe via the placebo effect (i.e. it cost more so has to sound better; that disappears once you compare it blind to much cheaper gear).

 

My view and I will not argue it (or go into real specific tech detail...I don't have the time for that for one thing), that is what the sound science forum is for as well as many external websites/forums that discuss audio from a reasoned viewpoint.

 


Edited by Pratt - 9/3/11 at 5:12am
post #1136 of 3844

Double post sorry, tired lol.


Edited by Pratt - 9/3/11 at 5:08am
post #1137 of 3844

PS: Anyone is free to believe what they wish and spend what they want of course; I post for those who don't know better yet (I didn't, hence the DAC Magic over spending) and who are open to reasons why they don't need to spend a lot (at least on anything besides speakers/headphones and even then there is a sharp drop off after a reasonable/fairly low price, at least to audio enthusiasts) to achieve great SQ.

post #1138 of 3844

Wow I'm surprised you prefer the srh940, you reall think they are an overall better phone? At first I wanted these, then I heard about the k702's and wanted those lol... Now I'm leaning towards the Shure's again -.-. Silly Head-Fi
 

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Yes, the 940's love percussion. This is great as I love it too!


 


 

It killed the 702's for me as I've mentioned several times. The 701/02's are still great headphones imo, but the 940 are even better.

 

I don't find the percussion over done, I just find it more detailed than with other phones. But it doesn't sound disjointed.
 


All, (or almost all modern DAC's of some quality at least) sound the same (I overbought with my DAC Magic and will be buying a much cheaper DAC when it goes...half the price or less). I've heard DAC's/cdp costing tens of thousands compared to those costing a couple of hundred; blind no one could tell a difference. And the reason is they all do the same thing: convert digital to analog and there is not much (if any) room for sound variations in that no matter what marketing hype/voodoo math is behind it.

 

Physical burn in, similarly, simply does not exist...at least past a few seconds, or at the very most, a couple of hours (not likely though). 

 

However amps, with their various tech spec variations, can make a difference in sound although two amps that have the same tech specs, even if they have wildly different prices, will sound the same (yes, I've heard these tested blind: no one could tell which was the cheapo $160 receiver amp and which the several integrateds costing several to tens of thousands with the same specs we compared it too; but people could tell the difference between amps of similar or hugely varying prices if they had significantly different specs). So all my cans sound somewhat better through my M Stage than my Cowon or integrated amp headphone out for instance, although not widely so.

 

If you want to get the best out of the 940's try various amps for some/slight differences, anything else will not produce any real ones, except maybe via the placebo effect (i.e. it cost more so has to sound better; that disappears once you compare it blind to much cheaper gear).

 

My view and I will not argue it (or go into real specific tech detail...I don't have the time for that for one thing), that is what the sound science forum is for as well as many external websites/forums that discuss audio from a reasoned viewpoint.

 



 

post #1139 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Pratt View Post


All, (or almost all modern DAC's of some quality at least) sound the same (I overbought with my DAC Magic and will be buying a much cheaper DAC when it goes...half the price or less). I've heard DAC's/cdp costing tens of thousands compared to those costing a couple of hundred; blind no one could tell a difference. And the reason is they all do the same thing: convert digital to analog and there is not much (if any) room for sound variations in that no matter what marketing hype/voodoo math is behind it.

 

Physical burn in, similarly, simply does not exist...at least past a few seconds, or at the very most, a couple of hours (not likely though). 

 

However amps, with their various tech spec variations, can make a difference in sound although two amps that have the same tech specs, even if they have wildly different prices, will sound the same (yes, I've heard these tested blind: no one could tell which was the cheapo $160 receiver amp and which the several integrateds costing several to tens of thousands with the same specs we compared it too; but people could tell the difference between amps of similar or hugely varying prices if they had significantly different specs). So all my cans sound somewhat better through my M Stage than my Cowon or integrated amp headphone out for instance, although not widely so.

 

 

Thanks for educating us ignoramuses rolleyes.gif

 

 

 

post #1140 of 3844
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Originally Posted by Pratt View Post

PS: Anyone is free to believe what they wish and spend what they want of course; I post for those who don't know better yet (I didn't, hence the DAC Magic over spending) and who are open to reasons why they don't need to spend a lot (at least on anything besides speakers/headphones and even then there is a sharp drop off after a reasonable/fairly low price, at least to audio enthusiasts) to achieve great SQ.


I have to disagree. As you might want to inform other that in your opinion there is little difference between DACs, in my opinion all DACs are not the same. I also want to inform others. I've also always felt the DacMagic to be a bit of a deal in the DAC world. Especially if you want to go fully balanced. I don't feel there should only be one exclusive take on something. Show both sides and let people decide for themselves.
Edited by baka1969 - 9/3/11 at 11:37am
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