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Looks great, it's like a steampunk version of the DT1350 :-)

post #3827 of 3839
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The first thing that everyone noticed is the treble.  The wood cup and the velour pads made the treble pack on a lot of air and as a result, it now sounds almost like an opened-back.  The stock 1350s has good treble body but it made the treble sound congested and tightly bunched up by comparison. Because of this, soundstaging no longer feels tunnel-like but has took on a significant breadth as well.

The next thing anyone would notice is the bass. Midbass bloat has been dramatically reduced from what would otherwise have been a thin cloth to a sheer fabric.  This reduction makes the sub-bass take centerstage and by happy accident, brought on a better sonic spatial presentation in the lower frequencies.  Even with alternative rock or rock genre, the drums sound faster with greater separation.


Mids, save for the more fluid coherence with the top and bottom, remains largely unaltered.

:)


Nice.  Did you do them yourself or did you have someone do it for you?

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Nice.  Did you do them yourself or did you have someone do it for you?



Someone who possesses more talent than I do did the mods.  

post #3829 of 3839
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Someone who possesses more talent than I do did the mods.  


who might this be?

post #3830 of 3839
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who might this be?




Unfortunately, I do not know his handle here in headfi.  We have a small regional audiophile group where he moonlights as a cable guy.  Recently, he's done some good work (subjective) for me.

 

Below, the mannequin heads made of fiber glass, were also done by the same guy.  We call him Arbi.
 

 

 

Here - DT1350 opened back cups.  They sound fantastic. 

post #3831 of 3839

Sorry to butt in on the conversation about sp3llv3xit's modded DT1350's (which appear to be super cool btw), but I've a question (or two) for you guys:

 

I'm looking for a new pair of closed headphones (almost everyone's looking for new headphones aren't they), and am looking for something with the Beyer signature (I've had a pair of DT 990 Pro's for 24 yrs now), but that isn't sibilant (well less than the 990's), and that is revealing and fidel to the original recording. The phones should be fast and should be able to reproduce bass when it's there, but they shouldn't exaggerate it! So, given your experience with the DT1350's (especially the facelift version), how closely do you feel they fit to my desires, and how would they compare to the T51p and T70p?

 

I'd mainly be using them direct from various tablets, phones and computers - I'm thinking about getting a portable DAC/amp either Beyer's a200p of the Herus (plus..?). I listen to all kinds of music from classical (lots of piano), through blues and jazz to rock, pop, prog rock, punk, new wave, hip hop, dub step, electro, trance, etc... Trying the phones in a shop isn't really possible - I haven't found a Beyer dealer within a couple of hrs drive so far :(

 

Finally, one thing I worry about with the DT1350 is the plug...how have you found it in portable situations..? Is its being straight problematic, or a non problem. For the moment I've used iems with right-angled plugs in portable situations (VSonic GR07 BE - that I don't like; and Shure SE215s - ok, but not detailed or transparent enough, especially in comparison with the 990's - I know different fish...).

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I'm looking for a new pair of closed headphones (almost everyone's looking for new headphones aren't they), and am looking for something with the Beyer signature (I've had a pair of DT 990 Pro's for 24 yrs now), but that isn't sibilant (well less than the 990's), and that is revealing and fidel to the original recording. The phones should be fast and should be able to reproduce bass when it's there, but they shouldn't exaggerate it! So, given your experience with the DT1350's (especially the facelift version), how closely do you feel they fit to my desires, and how would they compare to the T51p and T70p?

 

I'd mainly be using them direct from various tablets, phones and computers - I'm thinking about getting a portable DAC/amp either Beyer's a200p of the Herus (plus..?). I listen to all kinds of music from classical (lots of piano), through blues and jazz to rock, pop, prog rock, punk, new wave, hip hop, dub step, electro, trance, etc...

 

The DT1350 might actually be a good fit for your preferences as long as you're not too sensitive to an on-ear that sits rather tight. To me its versatile enough for the genres you mention (with myself having tried/used it with classical works, dub step, electro, house, minimal,...). The DT1350 offers well-behaved treble and an astoundingly deep reaching bass that stays impressively clear and is not artificially emphasized.

 

Compared with the T51p I find the latter a bit too warm for my taste, with a bit bloated midbass. It beats the DT1350 hands down when it comes to comfort...

 

The T70 (I don't own the T70p version) seems much more treble-prone to me and overall not as well-balanced as the DT1350. Did not use it for quite some time though, so take that with the appropriate portion of salt (as with every foreign assessment of a headphone -- in the end its only your impression that counts).

 

The DT1350 plug is not a problem to me. Yes, its rather big, but I can live with that. You could easily change that yourself if you're willing to grab a soldering iron. I don't think an amp is strictly necessary to drive the DT1350, works well straight out of my iPhone or iPad.

post #3833 of 3839
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The DT1350 might actually be a good fit for your preferences as long as you're not too sensitive to an on-ear that sits rather tight. To me its versatile enough for the genres you mention (with myself having tried/used it with classical works, dub step, electro, house, minimal,...). The DT1350 offers well-behaved treble and an astoundingly deep reaching bass that stays impressively clear and is not artificially emphasized.

 

Compared with the T51p I find the latter a bit too warm for my taste, with a bit bloated midbass. It beats the DT1350 hands down when it comes to comfort...

 

The DT1350 plug is not a problem to me. Yes, its rather big, but I can live with that. You could easily change that yourself if you're willing to grab a soldering iron. I don't think an amp is strictly necessary to drive the DT1350, works well straight out of my iPhone or iPad.

The tight fit is something that worries me a bit since I wear glasses (straight armed) frequently when working in front of a screen (which means most of the time, lol). The comparison of Peter (MacedonianHero, http://www.head-fi.org/t/672743/comparisons-23-of-the-top-closed-portable-headphones-around) has made me wonder whether the DT1350 is not going to be too problematic or painful...Can't really tell without trying, but if lots of people who wear glasses (or shades) find them painful with them, then they might not be the best choice.

 

For the DAC/amp I was thinking more about getting the "best" (often means the most detail for me) from the source via the phones when possible, so the emphasis is more on the DAC part, but if I can drive my DT990's from them as well then I'd be happier.

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The tight fit is something that worries me a bit since I wear glasses (straight armed) frequently when working in front of a screen (which means most of the time, lol). The comparison of Peter (MacedonianHero, http://www.head-fi.org/t/672743/comparisons-23-of-the-top-closed-portable-headphones-around) has made me wonder whether the DT1350 is not going to be too problematic or painful...Can't really tell without trying, but if lots of people who wear glasses (or shades) find them painful with them, then they might not be the best choice.

 

For the DAC/amp I was thinking more about getting the "best" (often means the most detail for me) from the source via the phones when possible, so the emphasis is more on the DAC part, but if I can drive my DT990's from them as well then I'd be happier.


While comfort is a very personal thing I find them not too bad (and I think I'm rather sensitive to pressure on my ears), but would not wear them for more than 2h without a pause (which does not limit my usage as I rarely listen longer than that when not at home).

 

Several people with glasses noted that they put on their glasses after the DT1350 so that they sit atop the pads, not between the head and ears where the pads put on pressure.

 

The A200p is a nice little amp that does well for its money, works with iDevices, PC/Mac and even some Androids. Well worth its money, light and really small... only disadvantage is the proprietary cable connector (and maybe the missing line-out).

post #3835 of 3839

Plakat, are your DT1350's the original or the facelift version? Just as to have a reference as (apparently) the facelift version is more comfortable/less painful :)

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 Several people with glasses noted that they put on their glasses after the DT1350 so that they sit atop the pads, not between the head and ears where the pads put on pressure.

This is something that I could do quite easily, it's a good idea.

 

I think that I'm going to give the DT1350's a try then, unless something can change my mind in the the next couple of days. 

post #3836 of 3839
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Plakat, are your DT1350's the original or the facelift version? Just as to have a reference as (apparently) the facelift version is more comfortable/less painful :)

This is something that I could do quite easily, it's a good idea.

 

I think that I'm going to give the DT1350's a try then, unless something can change my mind in the the next couple of days. 


Yes, I own the original version, but changed the pads to the larger pads that now come standard with the facelift. To be honest it helps a bit, but its not night and day. Nevertheless get the facelift, its headband cushions are more sturdy.

post #3837 of 3839
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Yes, I own the original version, but changed the pads to the larger pads that now come standard with the facelift. To be honest it helps a bit, but its not night and day. Nevertheless get the facelift, its headband cushions are more sturdy.

 

Well, it looks like I might be getting both... :rolleyes:

I came across a pair of returned T51p's a few minutes ago... offered at 206€ instead of 230€, with an additional 25% reduction and the possibility of sending them back within 15 days if I'm not satisfied. So a pair of T51p's for 155€. It was a bit difficult to be completely reasonable!

 

For the DT1350's, well I'm seeing about a pair that are being sold following the liquidation of a music shop. They've the original version from the looks and the version number, and are sold without the case (which you can order from Beyer's site in any case). If I can get those for a reasonable price (a steal in other words, since I'd change the headband cushion), then I'll take them, otherwise I'll wait to see what my first impressions are with the T51p. 

post #3838 of 3839

Getting the original DT1350 is fine as there were no changes to the driver.

 

Its of course best if you can compare them yourself. The T51p is a nice headphone with a very likable sound signature and, given its on-ear nature, good comfort. Try both out and let us know what you think.

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Well, it looks like I might be getting both... :rolleyes:

I came across a pair of returned T51p's a few minutes ago... offered at 206€ instead of 230€, with an additional 25% reduction and the possibility of sending them back within 15 days if I'm not satisfied. So a pair of T51p's for 155€. It was a bit difficult to be completely reasonable!

 

For the DT1350's, well I'm seeing about a pair that are being sold following the liquidation of a music shop. They've the original version from the looks and the version number, and are sold without the case (which you can order from Beyer's site in any case). If I can get those for a reasonable price (a steal in other words, since I'd change the headband cushion), then I'll take them, otherwise I'll wait to see what my first impressions are with the T51p. 

post #3839 of 3839

Well the T51p is on it's way, so I give an update on it when it's arrived.

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