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Originally Posted by adydula View Post

devhen...

 

I couldnt agree with you more...

 

When I first listened to them I was wondering where the mids were, the do indeed sound recessed to me, dependng on how the recording is more noticeable 

on some materlal than others.

 

The bass to me is accurate and not reall boomy, just in comparion to the others iits there while its not there as much as the graphs show.

 

My point I really want to get across is the bass that these relatively small transducers reprouce to me is phenomenal.

 

I have been cranking up the volume until voices etc are "heard" well....in comparison to the others, then the bass which is pretty much normal becomes

a tad more emphased.

 

I have a pair of T90s on there way, will be interesting how these play..in comparison to these and the LCD2's.

 

A.

 

Agreed on all accounts.

 

I'd definitely be interested in hearing your impressions of the T90.

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Kool, I will let u know...

 

I had the LCD2's for a year or so and after of listening etc I sold them to finance my other exploits!

 

I had a set of K702's and sold them afer awhile...but I always liked the way the fit on my head, very light etc...so I eventually got a

set of Q701 a a lower cost which are very much like the 702's..

 

Hoping the T90s will have the great bass etc....ie flat curve etc and hope the mids etc are more "there"....

 

A.

 


Edited by adydula - 8/19/13 at 7:53am
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The new Facelift with STRAIGHT cable has the Beyer Dynamic logo in silver on the cups. The Facelift with coiled cable has uncolored (in relief) logo.


Edited by wrightanswer@ear - 8/23/13 at 1:03pm
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Where are you getting that info? Everything I've seen shows that both facelift versions have Beyer written in black. Only the original version, which did have a straight cable, have the Beyer name in silver.

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My facelift version with the coiled cable and larger earpads are black...and the beyerdynamics is in black as well..

 

A.

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Originally Posted by devhen View Post

Where are you getting that info? Everything I've seen shows that both facelift versions have Beyer written in black. Only the original version, which did have a straight cable, have the Beyer name in silver.

 

 

That's what the photos show because that's what the coiled Facelift looks like. They were introduced before the straight Facelift and so they are the ones used in the early photos for both versions. I'm sure the photos for the straight cable Facelift will be updated soon.

The straight Facelift has silver logo, like the previous version, though I'm told the housing itself is blacker than before.

Beyer is differentiating the two by having the logo in relief on the coiled version only. Everything else is the same with both Facelift versions.

This information came to me directly by phone from the DT1350 Product Manager at Beyerdynamic.

Perhaps they feel the more understated logo is more suited to the more professional coiled cord environment. In contrast, the more visible logo is useful for Beyer recognition when folks wear the more consumer-oriented straight cord phones out-and-about and commuting etc, when other people will take note of the more visible branding.  

Another consideration to bear in mind might be something similar to my own experience many, many years ago working for Nikon. Professionals did not like the Nikon (or Canon or whatever) logo appearing clearly on their cameras, turning them into walking ads for Nikon. They would more often than not put black tape over the nameplate. Maybe Beyer thinks that professionals in the audio arena don't want to be flaunting their branding either.

I have a pair on order which will be here Wednesday. I hate coiled cords so I'd want the straight one whether the logo was black, silver or violet. But an extension cable will be a necessity for home use because the straight cord is rather short for even limited movement. While on that subject, can anyone recommend a good extension cable (say 6ft-10ft) that will maintain quality while being reasonably priced? By reasonably priced, I'm thinking up to $50 max, preferably less. Also, not too hefty, so it doesn't look/feel awkward when attached the DT1350's own relatively lightweight cable. 


Edited by wrightanswer@ear - 8/23/13 at 7:07pm
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Originally Posted by wrightanswer@ear View Post

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Originally Posted by devhen View Post

Where are you getting that info? Everything I've seen shows that both facelift versions have Beyer written in black. Only the original version, which did have a straight cable, have the Beyer name in silver.

 

That's what the photos show because that's what the coiled Facelift looks like. They were introduced before the straight Facelift and so they are the ones used in the early photos for both versions. I'm sure the photos for the straight cable Facelift will be updated soon.

The straight Facelift has silver logo, like the previous version, though I'm told the housing itself is blacker than before.

Beyer is differentiating the two by having the logo in relief on the coiled version only. 

This information came to me directly from Beyerdynamic.

Perhaps they feel the more understated logo is more suited to the more professional coiled cord environment. In contrast, the more visible logo is useful for Beyer recognition when folks wear the more consumer-oriented straight cord phones out-and-about and commuting etc, when other people will take note of the more visible branding.  

Another consideration to bear in mind might be something similar to my own experience many, many years ago working for Nikon. Professionals did not like the Nikon (or Canon or whatever) logo appearing clearly on their cameras, turning them into walking ads for Nikon. They would more often than not put black tape over the nameplate. Maybe Beyer thinks that professionals in the audio arena don't want to be flaunting their branding either.

I have a pair on order which will be here Wednesday. I hate coiled cords so I'd want the straight one whether the logo was black, silver or violet.

 

Thanks for the info. Can you post pics when you get them?

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Yes. Though I'm embarrassed to say I've not posted my own photos on a forum before so I'd need to look up how.

 

I'm interested to see if the photo on the box I receive shows the silver or relief logo. 

 

By the way, I'm not sure about the relative thickness of the cables. I'd guess that a coiled cord would need to be thicker than the reportedly thin straight cord, but like I said, I'm guessing.


Edited by wrightanswer@ear - 8/24/13 at 12:59am
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Coming up on two years here in a couple months and have already notified Beyer I need to send these back. I am definitely getting new cushions on the speakers, as these would seriously kill me if I wore them without my Senn pads over them, and I guess I will see what they do. Doubt they will add the headband pad and that isn't really a huge deal I guess. I superglued the one that was coming off and though it took some precision it turned out nice.

 

The earpads on my the old ones, no idea how the new ones are, were just horse**** after a year of hard listening. That metal was seriously cutting into my friggin' head. Though the velvety senn pads are huge at first they have settled down a bit after constant wear and have the sound kind of changes with their use.

 

The new pads if they are thicker could help. Are they? Otherwise it is just going to be another couple months before the pads get indented again. And in all honesty I am starting to like these velvet pads over them but I do miss some of that original sound.

 

Not really looking forward to paying shipping for replacing crap materials but whatever. Anybody on those new pads? Are they better in any way?

 

Also, on this pair the sub bass is def apparent on a Denon 2112ci cranked up and I don't really have any problems with the mids tbh. I guess they could be a little subtle but I am not struggling to hear voices for sure.


Edited by OrbitingCow - 8/23/13 at 9:24pm
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Burning them in now...

I reckon about 12 hours should be sufficient.

 

They are bassy out of the box.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hey they look like mine!!!

 

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Alex

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Originally Posted by adydula View Post

Hey they look like mine!!!

 

beerchug.gif

 

Alex



They're actually yours, sir!

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I like the original silver logo better than the relief writing on the newer version.  It gives the appearance that paint wore off (sorta like the Grados).

 

It is still a beautiful headphone though...and all that really matters is how they sound. 

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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post

I like the original silver logo better than the relief writing on the newer version.  It gives the appearance that paint wore off (sorta like the Grados).

 

It is still a beautiful headphone though...and all that really matters is how they sound. 


Indeed! They sound large for a small sized supraaural.
 

Initial impression:
 
- Small soundstage. This is the first thing I noticed coming down from the flagships. Lately, I've been using the HD800 mainly. So the lack of or wanting of width in the 1350s becomes a stark contrast to the full-sized opens.
 
- Instrument separation is superb for a small headphones like this. Inspite of this, at times, due to the lack of left-right dimensions, the presentation can feel a bit congested. Depth is there but nowhere near the DT770 level. I get a feeling this is a headphone for Rock genre.
 
- Treble has good extensions but the body sounds a bit thin. Again, this could be because i am using the T1 as my yardstick. [I used the portable K-Cmoy, International and the Burson HA160 in this audition.]
 
- Bass is where this baby shines. Mid-bass presentation is clean and quite controlled. Sub-bass is superbly well extended. The different bass textures are pushed and withdrawn in pretty much the same adroitness as its big brother, the T1. Fast and clean, almost clinical.
 
- Mids and vocals in particular feel like they're very intimate. On Streisand's Wee Hours of the Morning for instance, the way she modulates her voice and breathing comes so close as if she's blowing her breath to my ears.
 
- Overall, I think this is quite an impressive little supraaural. Guitars in particular are given a bit of exaggerated zing which makes them more fun to listen to. While the 1350s may not have the same soundstage breadth and depth as the DT770s, it has definitely way way better highs and mids than the latter.
 
ON COMFORTABILITY: I don't know what people gripe about its clamping pressure. They slacken rather quickly. After about 2 hours of use, the headband felt light on my ears and while they do warm my ears after about three quarters of an hour, they can be worn longer if you are in a colder room or environment.
 
ON THE COILED CABLE: This is the only thing I disliked about the 1350s physical appearance. 
 
ON DESIGN: True, the whole thing does not scream of class and elegance, but at least it has a certain industrial manliness to the design. And should you consider wearing these outdoors or in-between commutes, the perfunctorily inexpensive appearance that should discourage street thugs from eyeing you as a mugging target.
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