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Originally Posted by sp3llv3xit View Post



Thanks for the words of hope. Hahaha... Will it stay this bassy or will the mid bass lessen over time?

 

congratz for your purchase, new version is looking great ..

hhmmm.. iirc for me out of the box it is not bassy at all

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The pads will soften with use and you should get a better seal, i.e. more subbass. I noticed that effect with both sets  of pads I have on my older DT1350, each took about 2 weeks of daily usage (that is actually wearing them).

post #3468 of 3857
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Originally Posted by plakat View Post

The pads will soften with use and you should get a better seal, i.e. more subbass. I noticed that effect with both sets  of pads I have on my older DT1350, each took about 2 weeks of daily usage (that is actually wearing them).

 

 

Thanks. I hope so.

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I was gone over the weekend and listend again last night for an hour.

 

Here are my initial impressions I posted on another site:

 

 

 

I have about 3 hrs listening to these so far...

general comments:

They are small compared to what I am used to.
Nice carrying case.
Well Built.
Thin cord.
Coiled cord is nice.
New softer pads seem very comfortable to me, don't really know how much bigger they are than the older original dt1350's.
Fairly easy fit to my ears/head.
Comes with the mini-rca and the 1/4 adapter and another two prong adapter? maybe iphone?

After listening to many, many really good music selections...my overall impression is "bass".

These small cans have very good, well articulated bass indeed.

It seems to add to the fullness or body listening to stuff. Makes it warm to me.

I listened over a variety of amps, preamp head sections, receivers, stand alone amps, internal and external dacs.

What stood out to me is the cans are good enough to tell the difference between mediocre source and really good sources.

At first I found that the voices that with other cans I felt were upfront are more recessed to me with the 1350's??

I found myself thinking that there was something wrong, I wound up cranking up the volume to hear the vocals and all the rest of
the music, instruments, etc filled in nicely.

Material and recordings do make a difference with these....Some old Rolling Stones Hot Rocks remastered are absolutely wonderful with these cans
I found myself really smiling listening to Satisfaction and As Tears Go By....simply amazing for these small transducers.

Eva Cassidy songs, Image etc are really nice.

Overall they are good cans, but they seem to be struggling with the soundstage and overall presentation compared to other larger size cans.

Its not that they are not good at imaging etc...its they sound comparatively "small" to me.

I put on the Grados and the AKG...and found them to be immediately "light" in the bass dept....wow.

I will give them some more time and re-examine how they sound to me and post back.

Many other reviews on these cans state these are a bit bass shy...boy not to me....more than enough bass....only the LCD 2's have more
authority here.

Later
Alex

 

 

NOTE : I made these comments last week, from last night I again here about the same....

 

The bass to me with well recorded and mastered stuff is really excellent. Its really amazing how well they reproduce bass.

Bass guitar, deep solid etc...

 

The only negative comment is they seem "small" in overall soundstage or experience. Maybe this it due to the small size of the cans in comparison to other larger over the ear cans I am used to.

 

A.
 


Edited by adydula - 8/12/13 at 10:53am
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I think bass is really a strong asset here... they do that extremely well. On the other hand I don't hear voices as recessed, though that might be a question of the reference point.

 

Soundstage suffers a bit due to their on-ear construction and the short distance between driver and ear canal I think. Nevertheless they articulate details quite well and don't lack spatial clues.

 

The old pads were just as big as the driver cups, the new ones are a bit wider on the outside diameter. The adapter with the two 3,5mm mono connectors is an airline adapter btw.

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Great...now I know what that "other" connector is....

 

I have been playing computer games with these to just get some time on them....

 

Its amazing after 2-3 hrs of gaming, I dont seem to mind them being on at all....even though the clamping force is high....compared

to my Q701's...

 

They are amazing little cans for sure....

 

Alex
 

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Yes, they are not the pinnacle of comfort but definitely wearable. Nice to hear that you like them.

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My Q701s and 702s to me are the pinacle of comfort, they seem so light to me that they just seem to float .....they got this part right.

 

Alex

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Ordered the new DT 1350 facelift from razordogaudio Thursday night. And they were in the mail, shipped, Friday morning. Now that's super fast shipping. Monday can't get here quick enough ;-)
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Congrats on your new 1350's!

 

I spent an hour listening back and forth with the 1350's , Grado 325is and Q701's..using Pat Methany's New Chattaqua and Oscar Petersons Tracks.

 

All three sound good, but very different.

 

The best overall was the Q701 fo rsoundstage and realism.

 

The DT1350s sounded good, but they are a bit veiled...and warm in a good way to me. The added bass makes the presentation fuller to me and less analytical.

 

The Grados. well...compared to lots of cans there is no veil....Ha...the treble and the guitars to me sound the most accurate....you either love or hate Grados...

 

I liked the 1350 sound so much with certain music I sprung for a set of T90s.

 

Good luck with your choice...let us know how you like them!

 

A.

post #3476 of 3857
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Originally Posted by adydula View Post

Congrats on your new 1350's!

 

I spent an hour listening back and forth with the 1350's , Grado 325is and Q701's..using Pat Methany's New Chattaqua and Oscar Petersons Tracks.

 

All three sound good, but very different.

 

The best overall was the Q701 fo rsoundstage and realism.

 

The DT1350s sounded good, but they are a bit veiled...and warm in a good way to me. The added bass makes the presentation fuller to me and less analytical.

 

The Grados. well...compared to lots of cans there is no veil....Ha...the treble and the guitars to me sound the most accurate....you either love or hate Grados...

 

I liked the 1350 sound so much with certain music I sprung for a set of T90s.

 

Good luck with your choice...let us know how you like them!

 

A.

 

Personally I don't think the 1350 has emphasized bass much at all, its just neutral all the way down to 10hz and most of us are used to rolled-off bass because virtually every other dynamic headphone has it. Take a look at the FR graphs:

 

 

As you can see, its not necessarily that that 1350 has a ton of added bass, its that the other two cans, like most headphones out there, have rolled-off sub-bass that isn't even close to neutral. Once you get used to that (and I'm sure the majority of us are because of how common it is in dynamic headphones) the 1350's appear to have emphasized bass, particularly sub-bass, in comparison, when in actuality we're just hearing neutral sub-bass for the first time. ;)

 

EDIT: I should clarify, the 1350 does have slightly recessed mids, which is evident both in the graph above and in listening to them, and that results in a slight warm tilt to the sound signature but I don't think the 1350s are nearly as bassy as some people perceive them to be or as they might be perceived when you first listen to them or compare them directly to certain other cans.


Edited by devhen - 8/17/13 at 5:38pm
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Still trying to get some opinions about how well the DT1350 performs with the Apogee Duet 2, or the more recent version of the Duet.

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I'm sure it will work well. The 1350 really doesn't need much power to get loud but they do seem to benefit slightly from amping. They will work fine with the Duet. Don't expect the Duet to change its sound signature though. It wouldn't be a very good product if it was colored to the point that it changed headphones' signatures. The 1350 will sound great out of the Duet, just like they sound great out of most anything, but the Duet will likely get them quite a bit louder than connecting directly to a mobile device or laptop.

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Originally Posted by wrightanswer@ear View Post

Still trying to get some opinions about how well the DT1350 performs with the Apogee Duet 2, or the more recent version of the Duet.

 

Oh, I could try that.  I have both, but never put them together.  The Duet 2 has a very clean amp section, and should work well together...

post #3480 of 3857

devhen...

 

I couldnt agree with you more...

 

When I first listened to them I was wondering where the mids were, the do indeed sound recessed to me, dependng on how the recording is more noticeable 

on some materlal than others.

 

The bass to me is accurate and not reall boomy, just in comparion to the others iits there while its not there as much as the graphs show.

 

My point I really want to get across is the bass that these relatively small transducers reprouce to me is phenomenal.

 

I have been cranking up the volume until voices etc are "heard" well....in comparison to the others, then the bass which is pretty much normal becomes

a tad more emphased.

 

I have a pair of T90s on there way, will be interesting how these play..in comparison to these and the LCD2's.

 

A.

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