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post #2716 of 3813

Dt1350 Flash report: impressions gleaned from the first 30 minutes  of listening, pre-burn in. Style: stream of consciousness!! Very difficult to achieve a good seal on these headphones (no surprises here though), but seal is absolutely critical for proper bass and sound. Very lean mid-bass, with an emphasis on sub bass (maybe)--the bass never bleeds into the midrange (great!). Very clean, very clear and very present vocals (now this is what I'm talking about!): perfect for acoustic music. The 1350 is most definitely a reference sound--not a  thick and luxurious sound like the audio-technica esw9, which is decidedly more musical. Wow, the 1350 and esw9 sound sooo different: they are night and day! Damn it: the seal on these headphones might present an ongoing problem--readjusting for the fourth time. Treble is not in the least bit hot--thank god! On the other hand,  the treble might suffer from too little energy, even though I can clearly hear the 10khz spike on some songs (strange, strange indeed)--this is not necessarily a bad thing though, but I will undoubtedly need time to adjust. Absolutely nothing like the He400!!!  (I was a fool for thinking there might be a similarity--a fool, I say.)  Soundstage is small, of course, but bigger than expected. Not the most comfortable headphones in the world, but not painful either. Not yet at least.  I'm liking what I hear so far--though I may have a few complaints. But it's way too early for any of that--I need to burn these bad boys in, pronto.  Very happy so far. Keepers? I think so. Time will tell. 

post #2717 of 3813
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Originally Posted by Madmollusk View Post

Dt1350 Flash report: impressions gleaned from the first 30 minutes  of listening, pre-burn in. Style: stream of consciousness!! Very difficult to achieve a good seal on these headphones (no surprises here though), but seal is absolutely critical for proper bass and sound. Very lean mid-bass, with an emphasis on sub bass (maybe)--the bass never bleeds into the midrange (great!). Very clean, very clear and very present vocals (now this is what I'm talking about!): perfect for acoustic music. The 1350 is most definitely a reference sound--not a  thick and luxurious sound like the audio-technica esw9, which is decidedly more musical. Wow, the 1350 and esw9 sound sooo different: they are night and day! Damn it: the seal on these headphones might present an ongoing problem--readjusting for the fourth time. Treble is not in the least bit hot--thank god! On the other hand,  the treble might suffer from too little energy, even though I can clearly hear the 10khz spike on some songs (strange, strange indeed)--this is not necessarily a bad thing though, but I will undoubtedly need time to adjust. Absolutely nothing like the He400!!!  (I was a fool for thinking there might be a similarity--a fool, I say.)  Soundstage is small, of course, but bigger than expected. Not the most comfortable headphones in the world, but not painful either. Not yet at least.  I'm liking what I hear so far--though I may have a few complaints. But it's way too early for any of that--I need to burn these bad boys in, pronto.  Very happy so far. Keepers? I think so. Time will tell. 

It took me a couple of weeks to get the seal completely figured out.  Now they fit like a glove.

 

Comfort improves with time as well...

post #2718 of 3813
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Originally Posted by Madmollusk View Post

Dt1350 Flash report: impressions gleaned from the first 30 minutes  of listening, pre-burn in. Style: stream of consciousness!! Very difficult to achieve a good seal on these headphones (no surprises here though), but seal is absolutely critical for proper bass and sound. Very lean mid-bass, with an emphasis on sub bass (maybe)--the bass never bleeds into the midrange (great!). Very clean, very clear and very present vocals (now this is what I'm talking about!): perfect for acoustic music. The 1350 is most definitely a reference sound--not a  thick and luxurious sound like the audio-technica esw9, which is decidedly more musical. Wow, the 1350 and esw9 sound sooo different: they are night and day! Damn it: the seal on these headphones might present an ongoing problem--readjusting for the fourth time. Treble is not in the least bit hot--thank god! On the other hand,  the treble might suffer from too little energy, even though I can clearly hear the 10khz spike on some songs (strange, strange indeed)--this is not necessarily a bad thing though, but I will undoubtedly need time to adjust. Absolutely nothing like the He400!!!  (I was a fool for thinking there might be a similarity--a fool, I say.)  Soundstage is small, of course, but bigger than expected. Not the most comfortable headphones in the world, but not painful either. Not yet at least.  I'm liking what I hear so far--though I may have a few complaints. But it's way too early for any of that--I need to burn these bad boys in, pronto.  Very happy so far. Keepers? I think so. Time will tell. 

 

The earpad and clamp force will become accustom to you as time passes :D the problem is that whether you like it sonically.

post #2719 of 3813

So far I like what I hear a lot; the 1350s are very different from my other headphones--the hd650, the he400, the d2000, etc.--and for me that's a big plus. I will need to burn them in, of course, so my opinion may change later, but 90% of the time, if I like a new pair of headphones on day one, I like them even more later on. The only headphones I ever liked on day one, but hated later, was the Denon D600. I guess I was sort of seduced by all of its crazy bass at first. Moreover, I like the Beyer house sound quite a bit. I would still own the dt880, but the he400 outperformed them in every way, and I just couldn't justify owning both. With that said, I'm glad to have Beyerdynamic headphones in my stable again.  

 

I'll post some proper 1350 impressions later, after I've thoroughly burned these bad boys in. 


Edited by Madmollusk - 10/11/12 at 4:57pm
post #2720 of 3813
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Yea i was thinking about the c421 AP8620, that's 189 xD

 

i was thinking of the same amp too!

 

 

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Originally Posted by dragoonv View Post

 

The earpad and clamp force will become accustom to you as time passes :D the problem is that whether you like it sonically.

 

i added some hd25 velour pads to make it more comfortable. but i'm thinking in the long run - once i remove the velour pads, the clamping force might be loose?


Edited by karloil - 10/11/12 at 11:20pm
post #2721 of 3813
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Originally Posted by Madmollusk View Post

Moreover, I like the Beyer house sound quite a bit. I would still own the dt880, but the he400 outpreformed them

:[ that's a shame to hear, althought he HE-500 is a bit more than the Dt 880, although let me ask you what Ohm did you have of the Dt 880? They say the 600 Ohm really is the best to have, although I'm not a fan of how the HE 400 looks on Freq Graphs as the Sub Bass Rolls Off pretty terribly... still tough I hae a hifiman DAP and I'd like to own an HE-500 <3,

 

But There is alyways the chance that I may get to demo the He 400 and see that it's not anything like what I though it would be

 

Although I do have my doubts as to the HE-400 being as Transeint as teh Dt 880... which truth be told I do color mine a little bit with a Hifiman DAP and cMoy which makes em sound wonderful, but there is also a question of what where you amping the Dt 880 with, if you didn;t have sufficent power than you may not have been enjoying them to the full.

 

And for me the Schiit Asgard has been recommened as really being a wonderul option, as well as the JDS c421 AP8620 so also further enhance the transparancy of the amp

 

Point being I like Hifiman and Byerdyanmic <3 and will GLADY own both cans xD as A collection of Cans is cool :3

post #2722 of 3813
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

:[ that's a shame to hear, althought he HE-500 is a bit more than the Dt 880, although let me ask you what Ohm did you have of the Dt 880? They say the 600 Ohm really is the best to have, although I'm not a fan of how the HE 400 looks on Freq Graphs as the Sub Bass Rolls Off pretty terribly... still tough I hae a hifiman DAP and I'd like to own an HE-500 <3,

 

But There is alyways the chance that I may get to demo the He 400 and see that it's not anything like what I though it would be

 

Although I do have my doubts as to the HE-400 being as Transeint as teh Dt 880... which truth be told I do color mine a little bit with a Hifiman DAP and cMoy which makes em sound wonderful, but there is also a question of what where you amping the Dt 880 with, if you didn;t have sufficent power than you may not have been enjoying them to the full.

 

And for me the Schiit Asgard has been recommened as really being a wonderul option, as well as the JDS c421 AP8620 so also further enhance the transparancy of the amp

 

Point being I like Hifiman and Byerdyanmic <3 and will GLADY own both cans xD as A collection of Cans is cool :3

 

I, in fact, owned the 600ohm version and I used, and still use, the Little Dot Mk III stocked with some very sweet ef95 mullard tubes--so I had plenty of power and voltage and lots of headroom to spare. As I mentioned before, the dt880s were really great cans (I loved them!), but I have little doubt: the he400 is better by a respectable margin in almost every way. (But, of course, at this level of the headphone game, preferences are everything, so you may hear things differently.) I know that the headroom graph for the HE400 shows a huge dip in the treble, but most people will not hear that dip. I certainly don't hear it, though admittedly once in awhile female voices don't come across with the same stark clarity of male voices. Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread, so let me say, I too "found the spot" with the dt1350 and am now enjoying them more than ever!

post #2723 of 3813
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Originally Posted by Madmollusk View Post

 

I, in fact, owned the 600ohm version and I used, and still use, the Little Dot Mk III stocked with some very sweet ef95 mullard tubes--so I had plenty of power and voltage and lots of headroom to spare. As I mentioned before, the dt880s were really great cans (I loved them!), but I have little doubt: the he400 is better by a respectable margin in almost every way. (But, of course, at this level of the headphone game, preferences are everything, so you may hear things differently.) I know that the headroom graph for the HE400 shows a huge dip in the treble, but most people will not hear that dip. I certainly don't hear it, though admittedly once in awhile female voices don't come across with the same stark clarity of male voices. Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread, so let me say, I too "found the spot" with the dt1350 and am now enjoying them more than ever!

happy to hear it :3 

post #2724 of 3813

This morning I decided to put the Dt1350s to the Starbucks test. If you're a coffee drinker, and you're cool with that corporation, then I'm sure you know just how crowded and loud a Starbucks can get on a Saturday morning. Usually I hate this, but today I was banking on the loudness. And sure enough, the joint was hopping: I had to wait in a line of no less than 20 people who were happily chatting with one another or barking orders at the Baristas. And all the while espresso machines hissed, and  blenders made terrible crunching noises, and little children shrieked and mindlessly ran about.  Really, this was the perfect setting for the test. I slipped on my dt1350 and started to play my music at a moderate volume, and, joy of joy, the environmental noise was greatly muffled; I turned my Zune's volume up to the 65% mark or so, and that was the sweet spot: now I could hear only my music and next to nothing of the Starbucks din. I had to wait a long time for my latte, but I could be patient today. Twenty minutes later, I had my latte and was heading for the exit, when a strange thing happened. Preoccupied with how great the dt1350's were sounding, I almost ran into a fellow patron.  When I looked up to apologize I was confronted with my Bizzaro counterpart: a freckled, red-haired fool wearing Dr Dre Beats!  We squinted at each other for a moment and then moved on without a word. A very odd encounter indeed.

post #2725 of 3813
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Originally Posted by Madmollusk View Post

This morning I decided to put the Dt1350s to the Starbucks test. If you're a coffee drinker, and you're cool with that corporation, then I'm sure you know just how crowded and loud a Starbucks can get on a Saturday morning. Usually I hate this, but today I was banking on the loudness. And sure enough, the joint was hopping: I had to wait in a line of no less than 20 people who were happily chatting with one another or barking orders at the Baristas. And all the while espresso machines hissed, and  blenders made terrible crunching noises, and little children shrieked and mindlessly ran about.  Really, this was the perfect setting for the test. I slipped on my dt1350 and started to play my music at a moderate volume, and, joy of joy, the environmental noise was greatly muffled; I turned my Zune's volume up to the 65% mark or so, and that was the sweet spot: now I could hear only my music and next to nothing of the Starbucks din. I had to wait a long time for my latte, but I could be patient today. Twenty minutes later, I had my latte and was heading for the exit, when a strange thing happened. Preoccupied with how great the dt1350's were sounding, I almost ran into a fellow patron.  When I looked up to apologize I was confronted with my Bizzaro counterpart: a freckled, red-haired fool wearing Dr Dre Beats!  We squinted at each other for a moment and then moved on without a word. A very odd encounter indeed.

 

LOL

post #2726 of 3813
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Originally Posted by Madmollusk View Post

This morning I decided to put the Dt1350s to the Starbucks test. If you're a coffee drinker, and you're cool with that corporation, then I'm sure you know just how crowded and loud a Starbucks can get on a Saturday morning. Usually I hate this, but today I was banking on the loudness. And sure enough, the joint was hopping: I had to wait in a line of no less than 20 people who were happily chatting with one another or barking orders at the Baristas. And all the while espresso machines hissed, and  blenders made terrible crunching noises, and little children shrieked and mindlessly ran about.  Really, this was the perfect setting for the test. I slipped on my dt1350 and started to play my music at a moderate volume, and, joy of joy, the environmental noise was greatly muffled; I turned my Zune's volume up to the 65% mark or so, and that was the sweet spot: now I could hear only my music and next to nothing of the Starbucks din. I had to wait a long time for my latte, but I could be patient today. Twenty minutes later, I had my latte and was heading for the exit, when a strange thing happened. Preoccupied with how great the dt1350's were sounding, I almost ran into a fellow patron.  When I looked up to apologize I was confronted with my Bizzaro counterpart: a freckled, red-haired fool wearing Dr Dre Beats!  We squinted at each other for a moment and then moved on without a word. A very odd encounter indeed.

 

Twenty people and twenty minute wait?   Sounds like the Starbucks from hell.

post #2727 of 3813

So, what DAP is everyone using with their 1350 on the go?

post #2728 of 3813
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post

 

Twenty people and twenty minute wait?   Sounds like the Starbucks from hell.

 

Normally, such a wait would indeed be hellish, but at least I had my 1350s on, which effectively turned hell into heaven for the duration of my wait. Though I've only burned these bad boys in for about 24 hours, I already feel the desire to dub them the king of all portable headphones. I will even go so far as to say, I enjoy them way more than my Audio Technica M50's  and my AKG K550s: And I do mean way more. Regarding the treble (I was on the fence about the treble until this morning): I love it!  Man-o-man, do these headphones sound detailed without ever becoming clinical or overly bright. I can deal with a little sibilance, but hot treble is a deal breaker for me.  Comfort, however, is still an issue; I hope I can break those ear-pads in soon, so I can listen to the 1350s for longer than an hour. 


Edited by Madmollusk - 10/13/12 at 11:47am
post #2729 of 3813
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Originally Posted by skyline315 View Post

So, what DAP is everyone using with their 1350 on the go?

IPC with the Fostex HP-P1...Fabulous!

post #2730 of 3813
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Originally Posted by skyline315 View Post

So, what DAP is everyone using with their 1350 on the go?

... your using a ZUNE HD :O I have one and my friend they are rather dark... and don't sound all that wonderful tbh... I use my Hifiman Hm 601 [which despite being analog style warm is not as dark as the Zune HD] 

 

But HELLO fellow Zune Buddy <3, I do like ym zune For my Dub Step [which needs to be DARK] 

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