After trying these out for several months, I couldn't get:
- any bass worth mentioning, with tons of twiddling, bending and placement.
- anything out of burn-in, to tame the extreme harshness and what I can only describe as distortion artefacts
So I gave my pair away for free. Really, they are that bad, imho. YMMV.
Time to try out the Senn Amperiors
Wow, you were gone from these forums for 6 months and this is what you come up with when you return. Trolls these days...