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Putting the same driver from your $80 headphones into your $1500 headphones most certainly is "minimum effort" and "cheap".

If you honestly believe that they're the same drivers throughout the range you're so incredibly uninformed it's almost offensive. Not only are the drivers different but most of the enclosures are different as well. Very specific breeds of mahogany trees are picked for their RS-1 series and the size and dimmensions are very carefully designed.

Look it up. All modern Grados use the exact same driver. The enclosure is what's different between the models.

I hate that this is going way off topic, but:

care to tell us where to look it up?

I've read the rumours in several places including this forum, but have yet seen no actual irrefutable evidence to support this bold statement.

post #887 of 1122
The fundamentals of the Grado drivers are the same (perhaps as similar even as the versions of DT880), but they are processed differently--"distressed--whatever that means. The enclosures too are different.

By Takato's interpretation, the drivers are interchangeable (because he says they are the same), but they aren't interchangeable. A 325 driver in a 225 enclosure doesn't sound like a 225, &c. The reasonable conclusion is that they differ.
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The fundamentals of the Grado drivers are the same (perhaps as similar even as the versions of DT880), but they are processed differently--"distressed--whatever that means. The enclosures too are different.

By Takato's interpretation, the drivers are interchangeable (because he says they are the same), but they aren't interchangeable. A 325 driver in a 225 enclosure doesn't sound like a 225, &c. The reasonable conclusion is that they differ.

 

It's also hilariously ignorant to the importance of the housing and the amount of design that goes into it. Like all that matters in a speaker enclosure is the driver itself. Assuming, hypothetically, that all the drivers are the same, the amount of R&D that might go into the various housing units for them could also easily account for the price inflation.

 

It's kinda funny, because it seems to imply that the difference between driver X and Y on a different brand amounts to anything more than a minor alteration of the diaphragm or the winding on the voice coil. I'd be willing to bet that there are few significant differences in the drivers on any headphone line. 

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It's also hilariously ignorant to the importance of the housing and the amount of design that goes into it. Like all that matters in a speaker enclosure is the driver itself. Assuming, hypothetically, that all the drivers are the same, the amount of R&D that might go into the various housing units for them could also easily account for the price inflation.

It's kinda funny, because it seems to imply that the difference between driver X and Y on a different brand amounts to anything more than a minor alteration of the diaphragm or the winding on the voice coil. I'd be willing to bet that there are few significant differences in the drivers on any headphone line. 

I didn't take him to be contending that: I thought the argument was limited to Grados.
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Putting the same driver from your $80 headphones into your $1500 headphones most certainly is "minimum effort" and "cheap".

If you honestly believe that they're the same drivers throughout the range you're so incredibly uninformed it's almost offensive. Not only are the drivers different but most of the enclosures are different as well. Very specific breeds of mahogany trees are picked for their RS-1 series and the size and dimmensions are very carefully designed.

Look it up. All modern Grados use the exact same driver. The enclosure is what's different between the models.

 

Careful design doesn't matter nearly as much when you're using poor materials for the application.


I uh, waht. All (99.999%) Grado's have different drivers. Sure they have the same dimensions, but other than than they're different. Different grade of metal on the inside, precision of the magnet, etc. The only two models (to my knowledge) that share a driver are the SR-60i and the iGrado. I've had an opportunity to try my SR-80i and my friends SR-60i drivers (note these are only one step apart), both in my walnut cups, and I can assure you they sounded quite different, discernibly so. It was quite obvious which driver cost 20$ more. The whole theory of Grado driver sharing has been put to rest too many times for this issue and belief to continue to come up.

 

I can understand if you don't like how all (99.999%) Grados look almost the same, same design, sometimes only outward difference is in the labeling, but that's only because Grado has settled in on their own house sound and house look. When you see a Grado, you KNOW it's a Grado. It's what works for them.

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I didn't take him to be contending that: I thought the argument was limited to Grados.

 

But his argument was rooted in the premise that if all Grados used the same driver, it was "lazy" and "cheap", as though extensive R&D and engineering didn't go into the housing and enclosures. He was saying that if headphone X and Y use the same driver, they should cost the same, and it's "lazy" to charge more for one.

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I think the 7506 looks great. Much better than all the kids I see walking around with beats around their necks at least.
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I think the 7506 looks great. Much better than all the kids I see walking around with beats around their necks at least.

It looks good, sure, but it looks a little too apropos considring it is a studio monitor. I'd rather have one of them HD 202s.

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"Apropos"?

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haha - yeah I noticed that too. I'm guessing it was an auto-correct error

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haha - yeah I noticed that too. I'm guessing it was an auto-correct error

 

Sometimes they're better than the original.

post #897 of 1122

Best part of the smartphone era: no one misspells anything, it just comes out as complete nonsense spelled perfectly. 

post #898 of 1122
Hfi 780 looked really nice, and basically all of Ultrasone's $1000+ models look fantastic.
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Of course it`s all about taste but Hfi 780 looks like random cheap chinese headphone to me:

 

Only adding that shiny metal doesn`t make it good looking headphone at all.

post #900 of 1122

Personally really love the gimmicky aesthetics of the ATH-ES88.

 

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