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What is going on in here? I take it they are all the same users?

Yawn.
post #77 of 106
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Damn it!

 

And I thought I was dead set on getting the UE RM's. Now I'm seriously considering getting the ES5's. If this wasn't such a big purchase I wouldn't have this much of a problem.

I want accuracy... but I want realistic sounding music I can enjoy as well...


Just to make it even more difficult for you:

 

Today's AVguide newsletter announced a new online review of the IERM, with comparisons to the JH16 and the ES5 (and, to a lesser degree, the 2MAX).

post #78 of 106
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I was mostly interested in the IERM, but UE is being less than forthcoming about their silicone option, as I explain in this post.
 


Sinocelt, I suspect that they are having difficulties with the tips. Jerry Harvey told someone on here that he wouldn't do it because of problems with the soft tip separating from the acrylic. UE may be having similar problems - hence the move to silicon coated acrylic. 


I finally got a full explanation from UE, which basically confirms your educated guess. I modified this post accordingly.

post #79 of 106

Sinocelt, I am not really surprised but appreciate the confirmation. I have no idea how Westone do what they do. Maybe vinyl is a better choice than silicon for a two-material design with acrylic.

 

The coating is an interesting direction for UE to go in. It could be great. We will see.

 

As for the review, it's a crowd pleaser: everyone's IEM is good. (Fair enough.) It has a few peculiar aspects though. The JH16 as the "reigning neutrality champ" surprises me although I have not heard it. Then there is this:

 

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Note, though, that the ES5’s soft-feel ear-canal sections, which—once they warm up—conform to exact shape of the wearer’s ear canal, yield significantly better noise isolation and quieter backgrounds than most in-ear monitors can provide. 

 

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So good is the UE fit that I would rate it second only to the Sensaphonics 2MAX monitors in terms of noise isolation, which is most impressive.

 

The first quote is from the comparison of the IERM and the ES5, the second from the comparison with the JH16. Maybe this isn't, strictly speaking, a contradiction but it is a bit confusing.

 

I have to say that the IERM do intrigue. You have a tough choice. I continue to adore my ES5 (just to make things more difficult. biggrin.gif )

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As for the review, it's a crowd pleaser: everyone's IEM is good. (Fair enough.) It has a few peculiar aspects though. The JH16 as the "reigning neutrality champ" surprises me although I have not heard it.

 

Actually, few professional reviewers dare directly compare models from different companies, so I think Playback deserves a thumb up. But yes, I was surprised at Chris Marten stating that the JH16 were very neutral -- more so than the ES5 and the MAX2.

 

 

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

As for the review, it's a crowd pleaser: everyone's IEM is good. (Fair enough.) It has a few peculiar aspects though. The JH16 as the "reigning neutrality champ" surprises me although I have not heard it. Then there is this:

 

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Note, though, that the ES5’s soft-feel ear-canal sections, which—once they warm up—conform to exact shape of the wearer’s ear canal, yield significantly better noise isolation and quieter backgrounds than most in-ear monitors can provide. 

 

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So good is the UE fit that I would rate it second only to the Sensaphonics 2MAX monitors in terms of noise isolation, which is most impressive.

 

The first quote is from the comparison of the IERM and the ES5, the second from the comparison with the JH16. Maybe this isn't, strictly speaking, a contradiction but it is a bit confusing.


Chris Marten reviewed the ES5 after the JH16 but before the IERM. He found Westone's acrylic+vinyl more comfortable than JH's full acrylic (and than most universal in-ear monitors) but less comfortable than UE's full acrylic. While it may be surprising, it isn't really confusing: as the review indicates, it all comes down to a better fit (through better skill, as the reviewer states, or through better luck). If the ES5 and the IERM fit him equally well, then the ES5 would probably win in both comfort and isolation.

post #81 of 106

All fair comments. (One thing that I have learned is that the quality of one's ear impressions is hugely important.)

 

So which are you getting?  bigsmile_face.gif

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His comments on the JH16 border on the silly. "JH 16 PRO’s bass range response is pulled back ever-so-slightly vis-à-vis its midrange and treble response."
 Less bass and warmth of neutral?

post #83 of 106

^ Heh...

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All fair comments. (One thing that I have learned is that the quality of one's ear impressions is hugely important.)

 

So which are you getting?  bigsmile_face.gif


I'm leaning toward the IERM. I hope one of the silicone models they're currently field-testing will prove to be the answer to their quest; that's why I've been delaying since October. But there'll be a limit to how long I can delay, with all the mics I'm supposed to be testing. frown.gif

 

 

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His comments on the JH16 border on the silly. "JH 16 PRO’s bass range response is pulled back ever-so-slightly vis-à-vis its midrange and treble response."
 Less bass and warmth of neutral?


Yeah, it doesn't even fit with what Jerry Harvey himself has said. Pretty weird.

post #85 of 106

I really appreciate this post since I am a DBA owner who wants to upgrade to the custom world. Looks like the ES5 is really the way to go. Ouch for my pocket :D

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Hey dogears... how you been?

 

My guess is that we'll be seeing a review of the ES5 from someone fairly soon... within a month, my guess. They may even be able to compare them directly to our beloved DBA's.  wink_face.gif  ksc75smile.gif

post #87 of 106

Heya Shane55, it's really tough 'choosing' between ES5, IERM and 1964-Q... amongst the 3, I'm leaning towards ES5 - a great complement to the DBAs. I'll wait for that review then. Thanks for the heads-up dude!

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Well, my friend... tough choice. Having heard NONE of them I can't even imagine which I'd be likely to choose... if I had your funds. wink_face.gif

 

The 1964's (entire lineup) has been getting a ton of press lately. Someone I know has just received the 'T'. Liked them, but not completely blown away. Is giving them some break-in time before making a final analysis.

But from what I've read (not all that much), I'd probably get the ES5 as well.

 

Best to you.

post #89 of 106

I'm still working on my funds :D but yeah, the WOW factor is there when ES5 is the subject. I just want to spend "one time big time" and "be done with it" and be totally immersed with THE music.

Cheers mate.

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What is going on in here? I take it they are all the same users?

Yawn.


Nope, but I appreciate the speculation!  Who is this Anaxilus??  But yes, Shane was right.  For once.  tongue.gif

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