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post #1621 of 3239
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Originally Posted by stozzer123 View Post

Hi guys, now that rockbox looks a go on the classic (and after hisoundgate) I am saving a bit of cash and going back to what I have.

 

I've got a 5.5g video with 32gb cf card its tricked out franken style with a white face, red wheel and black button.  A friend who is all about the style wants it and is willing to trade a perfect 80gb 6th classic.

 

Now onto my question, I diymodded a 5th before and loved it does anyone know how the 5th imodded compares to the 6g with lod..... both will be going into a zo or headstage arrow. 

 

Specifically with regards to,

 

Battery life on RB with flac?

 

and

 

Sound quality diferences?

 

 

Is it really worth just sticking with the 5g and imodding again?

Have you tried borrowing the classic to compare the soundquality to your imodded 5.5g?

I heard that unless you've got a European model with the volumecap, Rockbox won't improve the soundquality by that much. So you could just test it on the classic with ALAC and compare it to your 5.5g with EQ/crossfeed/etc off.

 

(However mine is a European version, installing Rockbox removed the cap which improves the SQ a ton. So I'm not completely sure of the above, can't hurt to try though, if you do like the sound it can only get better when you install Rockbox wink.gif )

 

 

About the batterylife I'm a bit more certain:

In Rockbox I get about 30-35 hours on my classic, listening to roughly ~50/50 of FLAC's and MP3 V0's.

 

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Originally Posted by jtaylor991 View Post

I didn't say anything about buying a first gen classic... o_O

Yeah I'm talking about Rockbox so that's probably not it. But the underlying firmware that's under Rockbox could be better with that software though possibly

8G? When was that? I thought the latest one like if I just bought one new tomorrow would be 7G...

 

True, took that bit about you rather getting the 7G a bit too serious wink.gif

But it can't affect Rockbox because the original firmware gets completely removed when you install EmCore

 

 

Well, there have been 3 different revisions of the Classic, so if you'd count every one of them as another generation there would be:

 

6G Ipod Classic 80GB (slim) and 160GB (thick, increased battery capacity)

7G Ipod Classic 120GB (slim, support for a new remote)

8G Ipod Classic 160GB (slim, support for a new remote, with a mysterious firmware version 2.0.2 which is not available to older Classic's)

 

tongue.gif

post #1622 of 3239
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Originally Posted by r100 View Post

 

No, that will not work on a Video, this topic is about Classics and specific builds for that only. You can try a different build (release candidate or development build) by installing it from the RB Utility.

If that doesn't make much of a difference your battery is probably getting old. Compared to the Classic it's quite easy to open a Video (plastic vs. aluminium front) to replace the battery yourself. Order a new battery on the internet and follow this guide, it's not very difficult but take your time.

Thanks.  I installed a new battery that I purchased from Rapid Repair and the battery life was awful (maybe 6 hours).  Thinking I got a bad one, I took the iPod over to iPod Clinic here in Los Angeles and had another battery installed but battery life was just as bad.  I'll probably wait for RB utility to support the Classic.

post #1623 of 3239

I think the earlier February build is giving me a much longer battery life now. I used to get ~25 hours with Aroldan's latest build, with this one I'm getting at least 32 hours since the running time is at 8.5hr @ 75%.

post #1624 of 3239
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Originally Posted by Larsie View Post

Have you tried borrowing the classic to compare the soundquality to your imodded 5.5g?

I heard that unless you've got a European model with the volumecap, Rockbox won't improve the soundquality by that much. So you could just test it on the classic with ALAC and compare it to your 5.5g with EQ/crossfeed/etc off.

 

(However mine is a European version, installing Rockbox removed the cap which improves the SQ a ton. So I'm not completely sure of the above, can't hurt to try though, if you do like the sound it can only get better when you install Rockbox wink.gif )

 

 

About the batterylife I'm a bit more certain:

In Rockbox I get about 30-35 hours on my classic, listening to roughly ~50/50 of FLAC's and MP3 V0's.

 

 

True, took that bit about you rather getting the 7G a bit too serious wink.gif

But it can't affect Rockbox because the original firmware gets completely removed when you install EmCore

 

 

Well, there have been 3 different revisions of the Classic, so if you'd count every one of them as another generation there would be:

 

6G Ipod Classic 80GB (slim) and 160GB (thick, increased battery capacity)

7G Ipod Classic 120GB (slim, support for a new remote)

8G Ipod Classic 160GB (slim, support for a new remote, with a mysterious firmware version 2.0.2 which is not available to older Classic's)

 

tongue.gif

 

I don't think that creating a new 8G designation is helpful.

post #1625 of 3239
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Originally Posted by zeitfliesst View Post

I think the earlier February build is giving me a much longer battery life now. I used to get ~25 hours with Aroldan's latest build, with this one I'm getting at least 32 hours since the running time is at 8.5hr @ 75%.

 

Thats nice. I'll try out the latest build. 

post #1626 of 3239

Hello to all!

yesterday I put rockbox (latest aroldan's build 121007) on my ipod classic 160GB (thin). I put my whole music on it and it worked well. Then I changed some settings: directory cache on, database auto update. After turning it off, I turn it on and the EMcore boot starts; I click on rockbox and after saying "skanning disk" the screen turns white with the message:


*panic*

Stkov main

pc:08047720 sp:00007770

 

and I can do nothing but resetting, then it goes back to EMcore, but Rockbox always gets stuck and can not load.

I tried to reinstall EMcore, but I can't reinstall Rockbox because it's not recognised by the PC (I can't access the unit).

 

Can anybody help?

thanks a lot!

post #1627 of 3239

Try booting into the fall back image. hold select and menu while booting and it should take you to the emcore menu, then go to tools and select fall back image, if that works its not bricked.

post #1628 of 3239
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Originally Posted by shamazo View Post

Try booting into the fall back image. hold select and menu while booting and it should take you to the emcore menu, then go to tools and select fall back image, if that works its not bricked.

Tried now, but also in fallback it sais

panic Stkov main.

post #1629 of 3239
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Originally Posted by rocfo View Post

Tried now, but also in fallback it sais

panic Stkov main.

 

From the same menu as shamazo suggested, try 'Tools' > 'Clear Rockbox database'

If it still doesn't boot, try 'Tools' > 'Clear Rockbox configuration'.

 

If all the above fails I'm afraid your only option seems to be starting from scratch unfortunately. The fallback image often continues to load the Rockbox installation on the HDD (is this considered to be a bug?). Emcore doesn't support the 'ipod diskmode' so the only way to modify files if your installation fails to boot would be to wipe the entire disk.  ('Tools' > 'Reformat data partition') frown.gif

 

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeitfliesst View Post

I think the earlier February build is giving me a much longer battery life now. I used to get ~25 hours with Aroldan's latest build, with this one I'm getting at least 32 hours since the running time is at 8.5hr @ 75%.

 

Which build is that? One by Aroldan, EmCore or an official one by Rockbox? I'm getting less battery life on Aroldan's builds too.

 

 

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

 

I don't think that creating a new 8G designation is helpful.

That is exactly what I tried to point out wink.gif

post #1630 of 3239
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Originally Posted by Larsie View Post

 

Which build is that? One by Aroldan, EmCore or an official one by Rockbox? I'm getting less battery life on Aroldan's builds too.

 

I have no clue to be honest. I just know that I grabbed it from a link that someone posted on this thread earlier. I might not get 32 hours though since the rate at which it's draining is much faster all of a sudden (dropped from 75% to 61% in 4 hours!!).

post #1631 of 3239
Originally Posted by Larsie View Post
If all the above fails I'm afraid your only option seems to be starting from scratch unfortunately. The fallback image often continues to load the Rockbox installation on the HDD (is this considered to be a bug?). Emcore doesn't support the 'ipod diskmode' so the only way to modify files if your installation fails to boot would be to wipe the entire disk.  ('Tools' > 'Reformat data partition') frown.gif

 

Did that! Thanks for help anyway! This time I installed the Rockbox version from the Rockbox.org page, and hope it will work! Another night of audio file transfer for my laptop...

post #1632 of 3239
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Originally Posted by rocfo View Post

Hello to all!

yesterday I put rockbox (latest aroldan's build 121007) on my ipod classic 160GB (thin). I put my whole music on it and it worked well. Then I changed some settings: directory cache on, database auto update. After turning it off, I turn it on and the EMcore boot starts; I click on rockbox and after saying "skanning disk" the screen turns white with the message:


*panic*

Stkov main

pc:08047720 sp:00007770

 

and I can do nothing but resetting, then it goes back to EMcore, but Rockbox always gets stuck and can not load.

I tried to reinstall EMcore, but I can't reinstall Rockbox because it's not recognised by the PC (I can't access the unit).

 

Can anybody help?

thanks a lot!

 

From what I can see, its a stack overflow in the main function, so either its a programming bug, or your system's run out of memory. In either case, try turning these settings off, or turn them off one by one.

Also report the bug if possible.

post #1633 of 3239

I popped in the new 160GB HDD into my 7th gen classic last night, and got Rockbox back on with no issues.   I only connected it to my laptop a couple of times, but I had absolutely no issues with the laptop finding it.  Also, once all the files were transferred, the RB database initialization was much quicker so I'm convinced I had a dying hard drive.  Even before I installed RB, I would have little issues here and there (random loss of gapless playback, lost artwork) that only got resolved with a system restore/reformat.

post #1634 of 3239

i got tired of the ipod not connecting to my windows 7 machine so i reflashed to the original rockbox file found on freemyipod and it consistently detects my ipod. sigh compromise of battery life over connectivity stability..
 

post #1635 of 3239
I have terrible problem.
Just rockboxed it, uploaded then few albums to test it- no problems.
Then i wanted upload all songs to ipod, but pc does no longer recognize it.
What i should do.
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