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Originally Posted by bucknj01 View Post

IPOD Classic can't sync my ALAC files. I get "your device can't sample at this rate" msg.   What do I do??  the rate is 24/88



Convert them to 16 bit, 44.1....then they'll work.

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iPods are fundamentally 16-bit/44.1khz devices.
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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

Convert them to 16 bit, 44.1....then they'll work.



Foobar does this quickly and efficiently...

 

post #154 of 186
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Originally Posted by macrocheesium View Post

My answer to the thread title would be "No, the Video is".

 

Have you heard the current Touch/iPhone/Nano ? Heard an iPod from any of the new digital transports which bypass the Apple DAC ?
 

 

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Have you heard the current Touch/iPhone/Nano ? Heard an iPod from any of the new digital transports which bypass the Apple DAC ?
 

 



No I haven't, I've just gathered information from people who own new & old and agree the old ones were better. And wouldn't they all sound the same when you bypass the DAC?

post #156 of 186

no, they sound worse.... if you do not have any good dac, they do....

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i'm really on the fence between an 80 gig 5.5 gen video and the newest 160 gig classic, playing through LOD to pa2v2 amp. Has anyone had experience with both of these devices?

 

currently have a 6th gen 80 gig classic, from everything i've read both of these will be an improvement. any thoughts are welcome!

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i'm really on the fence between an 80 gig 5.5 gen video and the newest 160 gig classic, playing through LOD to pa2v2 amp. Has anyone had experience with both of these devices?

 

currently have a 6th gen 80 gig classic, from everything i've read both of these will be an improvement. any thoughts are welcome!



IMO get the newest 160 gb.  It was manufactured within the last year, the 5.5 gen was manufactured several years ago.  The tiny parts inside are getting old.  Let's not forget that these are electronics. 

 

And honestly, the SQ difference is minimal, if existent at all for most equipment to notice.  The 160gb is a great player.  Not as good as the current or last Touch, but a good player nonetheless.


Edited by scannon18 - 3/17/11 at 5:59pm
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IMO get the newest 160 gb.  It was manufactured within the last year, the 5.5 gen was manufactured several years ago.  The tiny parts inside are getting old.  Let's not forget that these are electronics. 

 

And honestly, the SQ difference is minimal, if existent at all for most equipment to notice.  The 160gb is a great player.  Not as good as the current or last Touch, but a good player nonetheless.



you bring up a good point with the age factor, i would be selling my current 80 gig classic, so i'd like whatever i get to hold up.

 

i have a 2nd gen touch but it's only 8 gigs, i have noticed that it sounds better.

 

does anyone know if the 80 gig classic and the 160 classic have the same DAC?

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Originally Posted by rataplan View Post
does anyone know if the 80 gig classic and the 160 classic have the same DAC?

 

Can you be more specific about which '80 gig' you are referring to - the 5th Gen (ok, 5.5G ..) or the 6th Gen ?

 

19 July,  2004 - Apple intros the 4th Gen at 20 and 40GB

26 Oct,  2004 - Apple adds a 30GB and a 60GB model, drops the 20GB (?) and revamps the 40GB : apparently this was the 'iPod Photo'

28 June, 2005 - Apple intros the 'iPod Color' at 20GB and 60GB

12 October, 2005 - Apple releases the 5th Gen iPod at 30, 60 and 80GB

5 Sept, 2007 - almost 2 years after releasing 4 ipod 'Classic' variations in a very short space of time, Apple release the 6th Gen iPod in 80, 120 and 160GB variants. No 'U2' or 'Hogwarts' models in this run, but most of us were happy to see a player offering 160GB of space - Apple realised this and its the only model you can buy new in Oz as of March, 2011.

 

AFAIK, and I am happy to be corrected on this, all of these models used the Wolfson DAC prior to the arrival of the 6th Gen, which bought with it the much maligned Cirrus DAC. Vinnie Rossi refuses to try to mod the later models. 3 years have come and gone with no real change to the Classic - I guess Sept 2011 isnt that far away when you realise that we have almost put paid to Q1 already !

 

Per Wikipedia specs:

 

Audio Chip All iPods (except the iPod Shuffle, 6G Classic and 2G Touch) [26] Audio Codecs developed by Wolfson Microelectronics
Sixth-generation iPod Classic Cirrus Logic Audio Codec Chip

 

 

post #161 of 186
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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post
Can you be more specific about which '80 gig' you are referring to - the 5th Gen (ok, 5.5G ..) or the 6th Gen ?
     
   


The poster referred to an "80 gig iPod classic." AFAIK, the 5th gen and 5.5 gen "iPod video" models were never called "iPod Classic." That nomenclature was not introduced until the 6th gen.

 

Nevertheless, your larger point is still valid -- all "iPod Classic" models that I'm aware of use the Cirrus chip, while the previous models used Wolfson chips. I own three iPods -- a 5.5 Gen Video, and 2G Touch, and an original 6G Classic. Honestly, I cannot hear a great deal of difference between them, even when using ALAC files and good cans/buds.

 

post #162 of 186
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Honestly, I cannot hear a great deal of difference between them, even when using ALAC files and good cans/buds.

 


Shhh - you'll wake the zealots ! :)

 

Its not so hostile now, but at one stage there was a blazing row in these forums over the whole Wolfson vs Cirrus thing. Went on for several months, AFAIK. Really lengthy, nasty arguments that went nowhere - if you like the sound that emerges from your headphones, it doesnt matter what the serial number on the silicon is. I can accept that Vinnie doesnt like what he sees when he opens up a 6Gen Classic, but the rest of us arent going to that extent.

 

post #163 of 186
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i find my 2g ipod touch tends to sound better then my ipod classic 80gb which is now almost 3 years old. could aging have a part in this? because the poster above mentioned that the ipod touch 2g and ipod classic both used the same dac. my ipod touch is from the set that was released with the 3rd generation ipods. is it possible they changed the dac for the 2g mc model?

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This: I honestly think my 6g 80gb sounds great, if not a little bright on occasion. I'm happy with it for now, but I'm not exactly a "golden ear audiophile" rolleyes.gif

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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post

 if you like the sound that emerges from your headphones, it doesnt matter what the serial number on the silicon is. I can accept that Vinnie doesnt like what he sees when he opens up a 6Gen Classic, but the rest of us arent going to that extent.

 



 

post #165 of 186

is there any difference beyond capacity between the 80 gig classic and 160 gig classic?

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