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post #1486 of 1512
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Originally Posted by googleli View Post

 

Also interested to see if any Stax lovers here listen to their Staxes on vinyl - the price of some really good vinyl setups can go up to the better half of a million.

 



I do:-))

the problem is not the price of the record player but to set up an analog system and keeping your discs and fingers clean.

I have different systems. A Revox 795 (tangential tonearm!) / ARega Planar 3 with modified platter ... And my third system is getting into shape an Technics sp 10 with STAX UA7 and UA9 using a STAX CP-Y.

 

Regards Georg

 

 

post #1487 of 1512
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For those interested: I started a discussion on modeling of SR009's acoustic performance: http://www.head-fi.org/t/572968/modeling-headphone-s-acoustic-performance#post_7774290 . It also has some measurement results... I thought this should be in its own thread as it's borderline derail for this impression's thread...

post #1488 of 1512
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I do:-))

the problem is not the price of the record player but to set up an analog system and keeping your discs and fingers clean.

I have different systems. A Revox 795 (tangential tonearm!) / ARega Planar 3 with modified platter ... And my third system is getting into shape an Technics sp 10 with STAX UA7 and UA9 using a STAX CP-Y.

 

Regards Georg

 

 



Do you hear anything different with a tangential arm?

 

post #1489 of 1512

Dear Edstrelow,

 

it's really fun to use. You can't break your pickup (with the revox arm!) because if you touch the arm it is going up.

I think you really get a mor e relaxed sound at the inner part of the record compared to the RB 300.

 

I think the point is that you "read" the record the way it is "written".

 

BUT tangential tonearms are very expensive and many of them don't work really perfect.

 

The Revox is quite okay for everyday listening but I would not say it is High End like BERGMANN AUDIO arms!!!

 

 

Regards Georg

post #1490 of 1512

I have  used B&O tangential trackers for some years and see no need to change.  Several years ago I was able to compare the 4000 against a Linn Sondek/SME and found the B&O better. However the last B&O's cut some corners.  It's good to see someone is still making state-of-the art tangential trackers.  However I generally don't buy components that cost more than my car.

post #1491 of 1512

Hi,

 

I always preferred tangential trackers over radial trackers.  Still have a B&O 4002 and MCC20CL (one of the best Moving Magnet [if you can call it that] cartridges at the time IMO -  outstanding on voice) and a matched pair of Pioneer PL1000As, modified for remote control.    I was most taken with the Revox (already had owned a A77MkIII, A700, B77, B226) but never quite got to buying one. 

 

I might be showing showing my age but IMO no one including B&O ever made a more elegant turntable than the 4002, pity the coating on the control pad wears off.  Those late B&Os had that (unique to turntables?) eddy current motor for the turntable which was intriguing.

 

The Pioneer's linear tracker is a very nice piece of engineering but I had to rewire the audio cables through the chassis the originals were very disappointing.  I used the Pioneers for A-B testing cartridges - I really hated cartridges, never found one that I was totally happy with - even before they went wrong.angry_face.gif  That is why I like digital, no suspensions to fail in my sub-tropical climate.

 

Regards,

Bob

 

post #1492 of 1512

What is this new electrostatic amplifier being built by a reliable famous amplifier builder you're speaking of????? Maybe I will have to cancel my order of the BHSE after alleek.gif.

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I used my 727a kindly modded by spritzer to power the SR009 and SR Omega and (sometime te O2 mkI.)

 

I know that it probably will not do justice to them but HE90 is also powered by a kind of energizer.   the R10

Qualia seems to be benefit here because they were driven by balanced beta22.

 

I have been waiting for some time for the Aristaeus, BHSE and new 300B balancing act.  I hope to get the 300B

BA soon and that should be the most appropriate way to drive those phone.  I also heard some good news that

another reliable famous amplifier builder will build new electrostatic amplifier which may be better than the BHSE and will

probably comes out as soon as July.  It will use 4 300B tubes as power, 2  6SN7's as drivers or 1 6SN7 + 1 6SL7 as driver

(more flexibility and ? better SQ)  , 5AR4 and 6AL5 as rectifier.  I strongly hope that this will be good , hope to be better

than the BHSE although I doubted that.   But It will comes in July , that's a very good news indeed/

I don't have ultrsone 8 or 9 or 10, those are my wishlists but I never dare to pull the trigger until their aftersale service is better



 

post #1493 of 1512

Electra by Eddie Current

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What is this new electrostatic amplifier being built by a reliable famous amplifier builder you're speaking of?????

   Yes, it is indeed the Electra by Eddiecurrent.com.   I was informed during the contact with Craig during the purchase of Balancing Act.

    It is still in prototype for the standard version.    His prototype can achieve 1800 V voltage swing which should be more than enough to

drive any Stax headphones.

    It is supposed to come out around February but please don't cancel the BHSE because there is some uncertainty.  The BHSE

is more proven.  Although the Electra seems very promising .


Edited by kiertijai - 11/29/11 at 8:18am
post #1495 of 1512

Eddie Current Electra vs BHSE vs WES vs Cavalli Liquid Lightning

 

Which one is the best?

post #1496 of 1512


 

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What is the voltage swing of the BHSE and what does that stuff mean anyway?

PS: I won't cancel my BHSE order and I might as well e-mail Justin about where it's at completion wise.

 

Originally Posted by kiertijai View Post
 

What is this new electrostatic amplifier being built by a reliable famous amplifier builder you're speaking of?????

   Yes, it is indeed the Electra by Eddiecurrent.com.   I was informed during the contact with Craig during the purchase of Balancing Act.

    It is still in prototype for the standard version.   I think the sound is similar to Craig's Balancing Act : warmer, fast, resolute, dynamic,

extended high and low.  He changes his design so that now it can achieve 1800 V voltage swing which should be more than enough to

drive any Stax headphones.

    It is supposed to come out around February but please don't cancel the BHSE because there is some uncertainty.  The BHSE

is more proven.



 

post #1497 of 1512
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Originally Posted by googleli View Post

Eddie Current Electra vs BHSE vs WES vs Cavalli Liquid Lightning

 

Which one is the best?



I think each will have its vocal supporters, and they all offer slightly different intangibles.  We need someone to bite the bullet, get all three -- perhaps somebody who is considering the Antelope Zodiac Gold and a Liquid Fire for an office rig wink_face.gif -- and give us a full report. 

 


Edited by seacard - 11/28/11 at 5:56am
post #1498 of 1512

love seems to have died for the SR-009's? lol.

 

hope that means the price will drop soon.

post #1499 of 1512

People are probably listening to them instead of posting and posting :) So price drop is not expected until pairs appear that show some wear.

post #1500 of 1512
Thread Starter 

Listening to Ben Harper's Fight For Your Mind, very very nice ! Last I heard this was probably some years back and with a dynamic headphone or my Omega 2. Never heard as much detail in the recording as today, but at the time it's so natural, not shoved into my ears.

 

If there's one complain to make with the 009 is that it just won't let you enjoy average recordings but it doesn't mean you can't listen to any rock recording. I wish every producer / artist / mixer would take a stance to not butcher a recording for the sake of being louder. This recording dates back to 1995, I guess things went downhill by the end of that decade (see http://dr.loudness-war.info/ ).

 

Think I may stay up a bit longer and sample through The Will to Live ;).

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