I didn't say anything about them not having great sound. I own a pair of Grados and I love them. But they do not have a great sound stage. I wouldn't even go as far as saying they have good sound stage. Like I said before...separation is really good IMO, sound stage not so much.
Separation is part of soundstage. Deep vs wide. Grado IMO is terrible in both aspects. I hear the guitar running all over the place in Grados. Totally drowns out the rest of the other instruments and vocals.
My vote is for the AKG K271 MKIIs, at $149.00 on amazon. They have great bass (which is essential based on the genres listed), as well as they are close and nearly cancel noise, similar to the Beats. No need to worry about muddy vocals either, they have pretty crisp highs.
Although they wont be as transparent as Grados, they will sound noticeably better than the Beats.
these look good and have great reviews, but a lot of people comment that the bass is a little on the week side. would these be good for listening to hip hop and techno/synth music?
I had the AKG K271. I say they are very impressive analytical cans, but from what I experienced they are even more difficult to drive than K701. The bass was most certainly lacking. It's good for classical music, but don't bother with pop, rock, or hiphop. Ultrasone PRO 550 is a better choice if you want bass impact and soundstage.
Edited by wind016 - 12/30/10 at 4:09pm