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post #9796 of 24256
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post
 

The 225i have better pads (L-Cush), better matched drivers, better airflow (wire grills) and a better cable with 1/8 plug.

If I was using at home (non-portable system) I would spring for the 225i.

If I was using with portable system the 80i or MS1 are fine, especially as you then don't need 3.5mm adapter - but you'll likely end up buying the L-Cush pads anyway...

 

I've grown to realize that there are some people who don't like the 8-conductor Grado cable.  A few years back, I thought the cable was the end-all, be-all, but not as much lately.  I guess my feelings changed since I'm capable of making an solid intermediate cable that's upgrade over the basic 4-conductor Grado cable, yet have a bit more flexibility than the 8-conductor cable, as well as creating a custom length that is not too long, or too short.

 

But, having the original items - good cable, etc. is almost essential if you want to resell the headphones.  Some people love customizations when done.  Others, not as much and tend to prefer stock (virgins) so they can then adjust and apply mods as needed from their perspective.

post #9797 of 24256
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

 

I've grown to realize that there are some people who don't like the 8-conductor Grado cable.  A few years back, I thought the cable was the end-all, be-all, but not as much lately.  I guess my feelings changed since I'm capable of making an solid intermediate cable that's upgrade over the basic 4-conductor Grado cable, yet have a bit more flexibility than the 8-conductor cable, as well as creating a custom length that is not too long, or too short.

 

But, having the original items - good cable, etc. is almost essential if you want to resell the headphones.  Some people love customizations when done.  Others, not as much and tend to prefer stock (virgins) so they can then adjust and apply mods as needed from their perspective.

Only problem with re-cabling is that the Grado drivers aren't really designed to be re-soldered too often and can be damaged by the inexperienced. 

 

The 8 is a better sounding cable than the 4 conductor, but it is too heavy, especially with the 325is.

I think they figure with the higher models with the big cable are designed for home use in a big comfy chair...

 

Interestingly Joe Grado has been modifying his HP1000 headphones to create what's being called the HP1i/HP2i.

One "improvement" is to double up his Signature cable - not unlike the difference between the Grado Labs 8 & 4 conductor cables.

 

I think both current cables serve there purpose unless one wants a different length or finds the 8 conductor too big. 

This is how I set up my old 60s: unbuttoned; L-Cush; vintage 325 leather headband; short Mogami w/ Rean 1/8 for portable; matching Mogami/Rean extention cable for home...


Edited by parbaked - 10/11/13 at 11:24am
post #9798 of 24256
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post
 

The 225i have better pads (L-Cush), better matched drivers, better airflow (wire grills) and a better cable with 1/8 plug.

If I was using at home (non-portable system) I would spring for the 225i.

If I was using with portable system the 80i or MS1 are fine, especially as you then don't need 3.5mm adapter - but you'll likely end up buying the L-Cush pads anyway...

 

Yeah, upgrading the MS1i with L cush pads was implicit.

 

If the original poster lives outside the States and has to pay the ridiculous markup Grado enforces (current UK 225i list price: £295 :eek:) then MS1i + L Cush (~ £110) is just so much better value ...

 

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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

 

I've grown to realize that there are some people who don't like the 8-conductor Grado cable.

 

 

Indeed ... I consider the stock cable on the 225i a negative when I compare it to the MS1i. The sections from the y-split to the cups are perversely inflexible and have a mind of their own! 

post #9799 of 24256
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Originally Posted by sinnottj View Post

Yeah, upgrading the MS1i with L cush pads was implicit.

If the original poster lives outside the States and has to pay the ridiculous markup Grado enforces (current UK 225i list price: £295 eek.gif ) then MS1i + L Cush (~ £110) is just so much

For that very reason, when I get some more cash, I am getting MS Pro not RS1.
post #9800 of 24256

Got a pair of Grado PS-500 with g-cush upgrade on an impulse buy and never looked back.  Just amazing.  An upgraded from Bose AE2.  I can't believe how much music I was missing until now.  

post #9801 of 24256
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
I gave this some thought early this morning.  In regards to 3 holes, normally most of us have used a ball point pen to open up the holes all the way, while carefully trying not to push the pen in too deep to hit the actul driver.  My thought was, I wondered if attacking 3 holes initially but with smaller hole openings as opposed to going all the way?  I think in this situation, one could then enlarge them a bit more to then test the sound again.  This might still provide the best of both worlds.  For those who want a bit more bass, as well as for those who want to retain the detail without it retreating a bit.

 

It's a good thought, I must admit...  It would be good to see someone try it!

 

On the subject of cables... I wanted to do a re-cable of my 125i's... but was thinking about doing an 8 conductor OCC cable to replace it... Would I be just as well doing 4 wires in SPC wire? Or even just plain OCC wire?

Or I may be even more daring and do full silver... what do you think?

post #9802 of 24256
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It's a good thought, I must admit...  It would be good to see someone try it!

 

On the subject of cables... I wanted to do a re-cable of my 125i's... but was thinking about doing an 8 conductor OCC cable to replace it... Would I be just as well doing 4 wires in SPC wire? Or even just plain OCC wire?

Or I may be even more daring and do full silver... what do you think?

 

I've used 22 gauge 4-conductor microphone (quad) wire from Canare and Mogami in the past. The twisted wires were then covered with black paracord. It was the OFC variety.  In the end, the cables were much more flexible, with less twisting above the yoke.  No sound degradation could be discerned.

 

Same as this one, but without the HifiMan SMC connectors.

 

post #9803 of 24256

a new hybrid amp from schiit, the vali, $120 !

post #9804 of 24256
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

a new hybrid amp from schiit, the vali, $120 !

 

 

Correct.  The tubes are soldered to the board.  Also, it apparently has a bit of microphonics if you touch the case, bump the table it is on, or when plugging in the headphone cable.  Additionally, it has apparent noise with lower impedance headphones.  This essentially takes it off the list for Grado use.

 

Edit: Not trying to be a "Debbie Downer" with regards to this amp.  But, I was initially excited when hearing about it and then not so much when reading about the limitations.  It still sounds like a fantastic amp, though and depending on how it would be used makes all the difference, too.


Edited by wje - 10/11/13 at 5:56pm
post #9805 of 24256
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

 

 

Correct.  The tubes are soldered to the board.  Also, it apparently has a bit of microphonics if you touch the case, bump the table it is on, or when plugging in the headphone cable.  Additionally, it has apparent noise with lower impedance headphones.  This essentially takes it off the list for Grado use.

 

Edit: Not trying to be a "Debbie Downer" with regards to this amp.  But, I was initially excited when hearing about it and then not so much when reading about the limitations.  It still sounds like a fantastic amp, though and depending on how it would be used makes all the difference, too.

I'm not the world's most avid tube roller, but the soldered-in tubes were a deal-breaker for me.

post #9806 of 24256

there's already a thread, 8ohm output imp, tubes supposed to last 15-20k hrs

i don't think i'd be getting one and selling the lyr, but its good to see stuff like this, coming out

at this price point, and i'm trading my ms2's for some akg550's, planning on that being the stepsons christmas present

the vali might be for his birthday, merrits further investigation me thinks !

post #9807 of 24256

AKG 550's......wow....nice Christmas present  :-)

post #9808 of 24256
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

there's already a thread, 8ohm output imp, tubes supposed to last 15-20k hrs

i don't think i'd be getting one and selling the lyr, but its good to see stuff like this, coming out

at this price point, and i'm trading my ms2's for some akg550's, planning on that being the stepsons christmas present

the vali might be for his birthday, merrits further investigation me thinks !

 

You are correct.  Quite a bit remains to be seen until it hits the streets.  But, from the reviews of the prototype, to get sound from the amp that appears to be many times the value of the $119.00 price might make it at least great to try.  Plus, one could easily pick up a pair of 250 or 600 Ohm Beyer 880s for that "close to" Grado sound, and they'd probably do quite well.  

 

Apparently, Schiit had the Vali on display and for demonstration at the recent RMAF.  It looks like the casing will be similar to that of the Magni.  This is a picture that was on a site that the announcement thread on this forum had a link to.

 


Edited by wje - 10/11/13 at 7:29pm
post #9809 of 24256
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 

AKG 550's......wow....nice Christmas present  :-)


well, with the rs1, and ps500, the ms2 sadly wasn't getting too much head time, even though i really do like it

he likes a closed can, he also plays guitar, does some recording(learning)

its going to be a straight trade, and the 550's are supposed to be mint, box manuals, etc, so, this will be his biggie(he owes us money for car repairs)

he gets something pretty nice, and the money was already spent a while ago,

besides, i had promised the wife i'd get rid of one of the three, well i did, and got him a present to boot ! lol

post #9810 of 24256
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 

AKG 550's......wow....nice Christmas present  :-)

Can you tell me the approximate dimensions of the Ear+HD, they are nowhere to be found on the website, and I'm done asking Lloyd questions. I don't want to interrupted him while working on my amp. LOL!

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