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post #9436 of 17433

I think I've found a way to survive with the TTVJ flats pads.  Others have indicated that their ears can hurt when using them.  The foam that rests on the ears is pretty dense, and pretty thin.  I cut some rings out of soft felt and placed these rings between the pads and my ears.  I've retained the qualities of the flat pads, as well as improved the comfort level when using them.  It really has allowed for a variation in the abilities of the RS1i for performance.  As another alternative, the modded Sennheiser 414 pads work well, too and are quite comfortable.  The flats and my RS1i are providing me with a silly amount of bass that I seriously never thought a Grado could achieve.  Or, maybe it has been awhile since I've heard some great Grado sound.  

 

After getting the RS1i and then the PS-500 about a week and a half later, I was concerned that having two headphones in the same price league might not be too good.  But, the reality is that I can use the PS-500 with my G-Cush pads and have a completely different high-end sound when I want to listen to music with that option, too.

 

For the past few years, I've been on a bit of journey by trying, buying and selling other headphones from other companies.  In each case, I would tend to be a bit critical with respect to what I was hearing.  I found myself being boxed into a corner by caring more about performance than just taking the necessary amount of time to just enjoy my music.  With that said, the Grado offering is what it is.  When I have the RS1i on with my favorite music, I've found that I'm less critical of the performance -- which is excellent by the way, but instead, I'm reconnected with the music.  My hands are tapping and my feet are tapping.  The connection has been regained.  That, to me, is the most important aspect of this hobby.

 

As to the RS1i cost, you can basically spend that amount of money buying, selling and returning a number of pair of headphones in trying to find what is right for you.  Does this mean everyone should just jump to the RS1i?  Nope.  I'm just pointing it out as a response to the cost of the RS1i.  Again, you only live once.


Edited by wje - 9/19/13 at 2:11am
post #9437 of 17433

Got my MS-Pros today, everything I loved about the RS1's but tamed. Loving them.

 

The treble is subdued but still has plenty of energy, the mids have that lovely grado sound and the bass, to my ears, goes deeper.


Edited by Jesterphile - 9/19/13 at 5:40am
post #9438 of 17433
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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post
 

Got my MS-Pros today, everything I loved about the RS1's but tamed. Loving them.

 

The treble is subdued but still has plenty of energy, the mids have that lovely grado sound and the bass, to my ears, goes deeper.

if, and if the rs1i isn't to my liking, the ms-pro would be next in line, i love my ms2

post #9439 of 17433
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

I think I've found a way to survive with the TTVJ flats pads.  Others have indicated that their ears can hurt when using them.  The foam that rests on the ears is pretty dense, and pretty thin.  I cut some rings out of soft felt and placed these rings between the pads and my ears.  I've retained the qualities of the flat pads, as well as improved the comfort level when using them.  It really has allowed for a variation in the abilities of the RS1i for performance.  As another alternative, the modded Sennheiser 414 pads work well, too and are quite comfortable.  The flats and my RS1i are providing me with a silly amount of bass that I seriously never thought a Grado could achieve.  Or, maybe it has been awhile since I've heard some great Grado sound.  

 

After getting the RS1i and then the PS-500 about a week and a half later, I was concerned that having two headphones in the same price league might not be too good.  But, the reality is that I can use the PS-500 with my G-Cush pads and have a completely different high-end sound when I want to listen to music with that option, too.

 

For the past few years, I've been on a bit of journey by trying, buying and selling other headphones from other companies.  In each case, I would tend to be a bit critical with respect to what I was hearing.  I found myself being boxed into a corner by caring more about performance than just taking the necessary amount of time to just enjoy my music.  With that said, the Grado offering is what it is.  When I have the RS1i on with my favorite music, I've found that I'm less critical of the performance -- which is excellent by the way, but instead, I'm reconnected with the music.  My hands are tapping and my feet are tapping.  The connection has been regained.  That, to me, is the most important aspect of this hobby.

 

As to the RS1i cost, you can basically spend that amount of money buying, selling and returning a number of pair of headphones in trying to find what is right for you.  Does this mean everyone should just jump to the RS1i?  Nope.  I'm just pointing it out as a response to the cost of the RS1i.  Again, you only live once.


i made the trip up the grado chain, the 60, ms1, 225, ms2, 500, i loved the journey, and regret somewhat Not hearing the 80, 125, 325, along the way, i may hear them yet. the journey up, to the point where i am now, was so much fun, and i learned so much(and still learning).

i don't see myself buying anything beyond the price point i'm at now, i don't think i'd feel comfortable going more$$.

 

right now, i see my ps500 as two headphones, with the g-cush, its my "other" non grado phone, with the L-cushes, its more grado.

and my ms2 is my grado, which i hope/suspect the rs1i will become my go to "grado" can, and if that doesn't materialize, the ms pro would be the next i'd want to try. if  don't quite like it, i could be happy with the 225i(or ms2) and the 500.

 

when i had the hifiman he-4, i listened to it pretty much exclusively for 3 days,it was good, did some things great, but, i never connected to the music they i do with anything in the grado family, and that was the kiss of death for me.

post #9440 of 17433
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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post
 

Got my MS-Pros today, everything I loved about the RS1's but tamed. Loving them.

 

The treble is subdued but still has plenty of energy, the mids have that lovely grado sound and the bass, to my ears, goes deeper.

 

Oh man looks like my wallet is going to be even lighter.  Maybe next year...

 

:D

 

 

post #9441 of 17433
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

if, and if the rs1i isn't to my liking, the ms-pro would be next in line, i love my ms2

 

 

I think there might be some low-cost suggestions that can be provided for you if you feel the RS1i needs a bit of taming.  I've been through a half-dozen scenarios and approaches.  With each one, I was able to control the output to a degree and provide a sound flavor that pleased me.

 

I'd love to list out the scenarios and observations, but too busy for the next few days.

post #9442 of 17433
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

 

 

I think there might be some low-cost suggestions that can be provided for you if you feel the RS1i needs a bit of taming.  I've been through a half-dozen scenarios and approaches.  With each one, I was able to control the output to a degree and provide a sound flavor that pleased me.

 

I'd love to list out the scenarios and observations, but too busy for the next few days.

no problem, it'll be a while before the rs1i will arrive, i'd be interested though.

the pair i'm getting is used, so them burning in shouldn't be a problem, from hearing people talk about them, i'm not expecting a problem

but you never know until you hear them.

and if all goes good with the rs1i, and i haven't sold the ms2's, i might try my hand at modding them, if anybody knows of something i could do with them, change the drivers to turbulent drivers ??

post #9443 of 17433
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

no problem, it'll be a while before the rs1i will arrive, i'd be interested though.

the pair i'm getting is used, so them burning in shouldn't be a problem, from hearing people talk about them, i'm not expecting a problem

but you never know until you hear them.

and if all goes good with the rs1i, and i haven't sold the ms2's, i might try my hand at modding them, if anybody knows of something i could do with them, change the drivers to turbulent drivers ??

 

I think if you consider going the route of the Turbulent Labs "x" driver, you have to realize that the cost would be $135.00 and about a 2-week wait to arrive.  In then end, you'll still have an aluminum MS-2 cup, but with somewhat better drivers installed.  I think before I would seek towards the Magnum driver upgrade option, I'd look into some mahogany cup liners to tame the frequencies a bit and see if the bass can slightly improve and benefit from the mahogany.  That would be my first consideration.

 

The pair of RS1i Grados that I have were also well-broken in, so from day 1, I could hear and acclimate myself to the specific sound of the headphone without any questions or hopes that the sound might change a bit over time and with use.  It made the process much better for transitioning over to them.

post #9444 of 17433
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

 

I think if you consider going the route of the Turbulent Labs "x" driver, you have to realize that the cost would be $135.00 and about a 2-week wait to arrive.  In then end, you'll still have an aluminum MS-2 cup, but with somewhat better drivers installed.  I think before I would seek towards the Magnum driver upgrade option, I'd look into some mahogany cup liners to tame the frequencies a bit and see if the bass can slightly improve and benefit from the mahogany.  That would be my first consideration.

 

i've spent some time tonight with the ms2, and while its not perfect, it does have great balance, and i wouldn't want to do much to upset that.

the wood liner idea sounds intriguing , well, i'm in no rush, and i'll probably wait till the rs1i gets here and see what i think of it before i make any real plans

post #9445 of 17433

I see we have yet another 'Why would anybody in their right mind listen to a Grado headphone!?' thread again. You know, you don't see threads like that about any other manufacturer except Grado. Kind of strange. Should start one about HiFiMan or Audese and see how that flys..probably get banned in about 10 mins.

post #9446 of 17433

Grado fans aren't soft ;) Always love the uproar of defense when someone mentions the awful treble on the HE400's :D 

post #9447 of 17433
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post
 

I see we have yet another 'Why would anybody in their right mind listen to a Grado headphone!?' thread again. You know, you don't see threads like that about any other manufacturer except Grado. Kind of strange. Should start one about HiFiMan or Audese and see how that flys..probably get banned in about 10 mins.

 

That's a necro thread I think... someone brought it back to life the other day.  Still there were at least two people in there who seemed insulted by the fact that some people like Grados.  

:rolleyes:

post #9448 of 17433
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post
 

I see we have yet another 'Why would anybody in their right mind listen to a Grado headphone!?' thread again. You know, you don't see threads like that about any other manufacturer except Grado. Kind of strange. Should start one about HiFiMan or Audese and see how that flys..probably get banned in about 10 mins.

 

I think it's just a case of too much free time on one's hands, so some member starts such a thread.  I've come and gone with many headphone brands and many models.  Sure, there are those that I think are the best thing since sliced bread at times, but when you use them enough, you can spot the weaknesses.  Plus, our own tastes and preferences are purely subjective.

 
Meanwhile, I'll just keep on enjoying the music.
post #9449 of 17433
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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post
 

Grado fans aren't soft ;) Always love the uproar of defense when someone mentions the awful treble on the HE400's :D 

 

We're hardened by the feel of our earpads. :gs1000smile:

 
NK

 

post #9450 of 17433
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

if, and if the rs1i isn't to my liking, the ms-pro would be next in line, i love my ms2

 

They're not the eaisest thing to find, but you really owe it to yourself to obtain a pair of HF2s.

 
Mine sound so different from any other Grado I've tried... I just love them. That being said, I have not tasted the rarified air of the HP1/HP2/PS1. 
 
NK
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