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I've utilized an external ADC EQ before.  There are a lot of them out their in the market as they are a 15+ year-old item.  I just couldn't believe how just adding that EQ into the sound chain just trounced on the sound.  While having the ability to tweak the sound can be a benefit, adding in the EQ was a step backwards.  Lots of others will always recommend the parametric EQ, but there are some other options.  I have the Squeezebox players in my house, so I have the option to use an EQ as a plug-in for the software.  It's not a parametric EQ, but it's a bit more hybrid -- between the standard EQ and a parametric.  Plus, you can configure the software EQ for how many bands you want to use.  This option also supports streaming Internet music, too.  Those options are also available as plug-ins for the Squeezebox software, making the opportunity to EQ your streaming music, too.

 

The HE-4 vs. the HE-5LE.  A few of us have owned both, tend to agree that the top-end of the HE-4 is awfully like the HE-5LE.  It is in the bass where the HE-4 steps back a bit from the HE-5LE.  In fact, the HE-4 being discussed here was actually purchased by me originally (new) a bit earlier this year.

 

+1  EQ is a science and an art, and there are so many permutations and variations that they can certainly cause more damage than solve problems.  I've been dealing with pro-audio EQ since about 1977, which is a totally different beast than headphone EQ.  I live and die with parametric EQ on my pro bass rig- I cannot imagine gigging without it

 

However, once I have time I intend to spend A LOT of time with EQ on my various headphones.  Taming treble bumps and smoothing bass are my primary targets. With my Grado's, I want to lower the bass bump to about 50 Hz, and roll-off that darn treble between 4000 and 7000 Hz

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EQ is not the devil

It can be very useful and help with ringing, harmonics and slight unpleasant bumps, which ALL headphones can have to some listeners

I sometimes EQ and sometimes don't but either way it's fun to play with. Software EQ is the best for home but either way, have fun!
post #9333 of 24632

regarding eq, i thought maybe i'd try a used unit off of ebay, i might could find one that has a pass through, or bypass circuit

that wouldn't degrade the signal too much when using jriver

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Originally Posted by gefski View Post


Any transducer, cans or speakers, that I would have to significantly change the personality of, I get rid of. You put it perfectly -- "maybe...aren't quite for my taste".

I couldn't agree more with you!!  The phones need to sound good...period! Then if the recording has a problem, I might equalize that, but not the other way around.

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I couldn't agree more with you!!  The phones need to sound good...period! Then if the recording has a problem, I might equalize that, but not the other way around.

 

Eh.  We have a different take, but that is what's so cool about headphones!  I am very comfortable with EQ, and enjoy the challenge.  But I certainly wouldn't argue the point.

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listening to Hendrix on my Sonos All along the Watchtower from The Essential Jimi Hendrix Vol. 1 & 2 with Jay's g3 amp and my 225. It sounds so good. Thanks Jay!

 

I don't listen to a computer. I listen to a speaker system that has a Sonos attached. I stream some music on Sonos through a music service, but mostly listen to my CD collection ripped into Lossless stored on a NAS.

 

With Sonos, I can access my entire CD collection (about 8,000 tracks currently) in any room in my house that I have Sonos speakers and through my main speaker rig. It's not true audiophile quality, but with a decent DAC through good speakers sounds quite good to me. And, the convenience factor of not having to get a CD, put it in a CDP or even fool with a computer and hear the music in multiple rooms is killer. I didn't "get it", till I had it. Trust me-it's addictive.

 

 I've made a bunch of playlsts-rock, classical and jazz, alternative, metal, etc. I can use a controller on my PC or whip out my cell and use it as a controller. The interface is silly easy to use. I could use it with one eye, completely schiitfaced...pun intended. I'm not now in case your wondering.

 

I just bought a new Rotel RA integrated amp with a built-in Wolfson WM8740 DAC that  supports files up to 24-bit/192kHz. If I listen to a CD then I can access the Rotel's DAC. In fact it probably upgrades my CDP DAC, And if Sonos plays through the speakers, I access the same DAC.

 

 However when listening through my Sonos connect through a HP amp, I'm unable to take advantage of the Rotel's DAC. I have to listen through the Sonos DAC (Sonos-amp-HP). I cut the amp out of the picture.

 

I'm curious if I added a Bifrost to my Sonos HP rig, how much better it would sound? Kind of a luxury-it would be an expense that I would only really need when listening to Sonos through HPs...... hmmmm. There's just no way to compare listening straight through my Sonos DAC vs a separate DAC.

 

if anyone has a similar set up and uses a Bifrost or something comparable, I would kill for some feedback. No, I wouldn't kill, but I would be grateful :happy_face1:

 

NTL, Hendrix sounds sweet just thru the mediocre Sonos DAC, Jay's g3 and my 225i.

 

Wait, wait, wait, got my Sonos "new music" playlist and yes-Pink Floyd's Animals (well, it's new to me) remastered 2011-"Sheep"-just aweseomeness.


Edited by markm1 - 9/14/13 at 3:35pm
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^^ Hendrix & Grado's ^^.........Is like Bread & Butter  :-)

post #9338 of 24632
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

regarding eq, i thought maybe i'd try a used unit off of ebay, i might could find one that has a pass through, or bypass circuit

that wouldn't degrade the signal too much when using jriver

 

I still think this is a stretch of an assumption.  In my case, the ADC just muddied up the sound and veiled things.  My experience wasn't good.

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Hello all! Haven't got my replacement part from Grado yet, it's on it's wayyyyyy! For the past few days I'm using my XBA-4... The result was... Sad redface.gif

This morning when I woke up, I PULLED THE TRIGGER and listen to my Grado xD of corse, I use my hand for support :P missed it too much.. Can't help xD
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Is there a can as revealing as the 325, or as good at reproducing electric guitar? Serious question, because I haven't heard one, even in the $1000+ range.

post #9341 of 24632
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Originally Posted by White_Noise View Post
 

Is there a can as revealing as the 325, or as good at reproducing electric guitar? Serious question, because I haven't heard one, even in the $1000+ range.

 

RS1! 

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I don't think I've had a chance to ever demo the RS1. I've heard that it retains the detail of the 325 but with less sibilance and a generally more balanced sound. I suspect the difference in sound might be more due to the mahogany than the driver, but who knows. Also heard good things about the HS2. I kind of wish I jumped on those while they were in production but I was a little strapped for cash at the time.

 

Besides the grado lineup though, I've never heard a can that approaches the detail of some of the Grados. Maybe stax?

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Originally Posted by White_Noise View Post
 

Is there a can as revealing as the 325, or as good at reproducing electric guitar? Serious question, because I haven't heard one, even in the $1000+ range.

 

 

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RS1! 

 

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Originally Posted by White_Noise View Post
 

Is there a can as revealing as the 325, or as good at reproducing electric guitar? Serious question, because I haven't heard one, even in the $1000+ range.

 

 

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Originally Posted by White_Noise View Post
 

I don't think I've had a chance to ever demo the RS1. I've heard that it retains the detail of the 325 but with less sibilance and a generally more balanced sound. I suspect the difference in sound might be more due to the mahogany than the driver, but who knows. Also heard good things about the HS2. I kind of wish I jumped on those while they were in production but I was a little strapped for cash at the time.

 

Besides the grado lineup though, I've never heard a can that approaches the detail of some of the Grados. Maybe stax?

 

I concur!

 

Outside of Grado I love me some Audio Technica... namely the AD900x (for acoustic and vocal) and the AD2Kx (good all around, sexy with rock/metal... anything guitar really)

post #9344 of 24632
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Originally Posted by White_Noise View Post

Maybe stax?

For sure, the Lambda series for 30ish yrears (and the more expensive out-of-my-tax-bracket Staxs), especially since you used the word "revealing".

However, that doesn't change my liking of my Grados. Especially nowdays--my Valhalla/RS1i stays at our lake place, the Stax rig here in Seattle. So I go to the lake, have one evening of "listener burn-in", then I'm set for 2 to 3 weeks of great music. Then back to Seattle and repeat with the Stax.

After years of too many grinding A/B comparisons, I've learned to enjoy some of these different personalities among components, and must say that Head-Fi is a good influence in that regard.
post #9345 of 24632
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Originally Posted by White_Noise View Post
 

Is there a can as revealing as the 325, or as good at reproducing electric guitar? Serious question, because I haven't heard one, even in the $1000+ range.

 

Nice compliment for the 325's!!!

I also think the 80's are just as revealing.

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