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post #9316 of 19318
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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post
 

Alessandro MS-Pros are on their way to me.

 

Oh yes.

 

 

Excellent. :)  Wouldn't mind having a pair one day to complement the RS1i... if they are not too similar, of course...

post #9317 of 19318

i'm trying pretty hard to like these he-4's , but the mids aren't there, and the treble is harsh at times

they are detailed, they do have separation of instruments, and they have good bass, and it does seem to place instruments outside the ear cups at times

but, the grodos seem faster, snappier, rhythm , and the treble is smooooooother

 

will keep listening, trying different types of music, pink floyd was pretty good with the he-4's !

post #9318 of 19318
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Originally Posted by Edgard Varese View Post
 

 

 

Excellent. :)  Wouldn't mind having a pair one day to complement the RS1i... if they are not too similar, of course...

 

I just sold my RS1i's to fund the MS-Pro purchase but I will try and do a comparison from memory of their similarities and differences

post #9319 of 19318

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now i'd be very interested in that, i loved the ms1, love the ms2 even more, and other than the rs's 1 and 2, the ms pro is the other can i'd love to hear next !


Edited by jaywillin - 9/12/13 at 5:10pm
post #9320 of 19318
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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post
 

 

I just sold my RS1i's to fund the MS-Pro purchase but I will try and do a comparison from memory of their similarities and differences

 

 

Awesome, thanks! Unless I'm mistaken, the only way to get a new pair of MSPros down here is to purchase them from the dealer in Perth... but at least he doesn't mark up the price very much.

post #9321 of 19318

One quick question: Will I have a good semi portable combo with Grado SR225i connected to my iPad LOD and FIIO E07K ?

Thank you

post #9322 of 19318
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Originally Posted by pixelsphotopro View Post
 

One quick question: Will I have a good semi portable combo with Grado SR225i connected to my iPad LOD and FIIO E07K ?

Thank you

 

If you are connecting to iPod/iPhone only I rather stick with the FiiO E11 unless you will be connecting to both the laptop while in stationary and iPhone/iPod while going round, then the E07K is useful. 

 

Billson

post #9323 of 19318
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Originally Posted by BillsonChang007 View Post
 

 

If you are connecting to iPod/iPhone only I rather stick with the FiiO E11 unless you will be connecting to both the laptop while in stationary and iPhone/iPod while going round, then the E07K is useful. 

 

Billson

 

That's to be use in both scenario, While using the FIIO E07K with a LOD cable, does it only bypass the iPad internal amp or both Amp and Dac? I did do a loty of search and the answers are not very clear BUT what I did understand so far is LOd only bypass the internal amp and USB on my computer will act as an external sound card (Amp and Dac)

post #9324 of 19318

Why bother with the E07K at all?

 

The iPad actually has a pretty well implemented internal dac and amp, and the brief listen I had with my wife's friend's iPad confirmed to me that it is perfectly OK straight out of the headphone jack.  More than OK IMO - actually pretty good.

 

The 225i is low impedance, high sensitivity, and doesn't need amping.  IMO - it gains nothing from being amped - except extra volume which you don't need.

 

So save yourself the hassle - and listen to the 225i straight from the iPad.

 

If you want to EQ - consider going software (apps like Equaliser or Accudio Pro) instead of a hardware option.

post #9325 of 19318
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Originally Posted by pixelsphotopro View Post

That's to be use in both scenario, While using the FIIO E07K with a LOD cable, does it only bypass the iPad internal amp or both Amp and Dac? I did do a loty of search and the answers are not very clear BUT what I did understand so far is LOd only bypass the internal amp and USB on my computer will act as an external sound card (Amp and Dac)

LOD only somewhat bypass the amp chip in the iPhone. There's no known possible way of bypassing iPhone DAC with FiiO E07K although it is possible with some amp/DAC designed for the iPhone/iPod like the Sony PHA-1 and soon to be released PHA - 2 smily_headphones1.gif

It is however, easier to bypass iPad's DAC chip. Using a camera connection kit with a USB plug, connect your DAC into it like how you connect to your PC and you can bypass iPad's DAC. Not all DAC will work thought. If too much power required, the iPad may not be able to work with the DAC.

Connecting DAC to computer is different from connecting amp to iPhone. A provided USB jack to the DAC is needed to connect to the Pc

Hope that explains well

Billson smily_headphones1.gif
post #9326 of 19318
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Originally Posted by pixelsphotopro View Post

That's to be use in both scenario, While using the FIIO E07K with a LOD cable, does it only bypass the iPad internal amp or both Amp and Dac? I did do a loty of search and the answers are not very clear BUT what I did understand so far is LOd only bypass the internal amp and USB on my computer will act as an external sound card (Amp and Dac)

The LOD would skip the iPad's headphone amp, but not its dac. You get the line level audio straight off the dac, and so you would only use the HP amp portion of your E07K.
post #9327 of 19318
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Originally Posted by hsubox View Post

The LOD would skip the iPad's headphone amp, but not its dac. You get the line level audio straight off the dac, and so you would only use the HP amp portion of your E07K.
We are talking about an older ipad with 30 pin dock connector aren't we? I don't believe you can get audio out from the newfangled lightning port, and if you use the adapter they sell, you then get audio from a £20 DAC in the adapter, not the DAC on board the ipad.
post #9328 of 19318
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Originally Posted by jimbob54 View Post

We are talking about an older ipad with 30 pin dock connector aren't we? I don't believe you can get audio out from the newfangled lightning port, and if you use the adapter they sell, you then get audio from a £20 DAC in the adapter, not the DAC on board the ipad.

Ah yes yes! XD that trick does not work on 9pin connector to my knowledge
post #9329 of 19318
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

i'm trying pretty hard to like these he-4's , but the mids aren't there, and the treble is harsh at times

they are detailed, they do have separation of instruments, and they have good bass, and it does seem to place instruments outside the ear cups at times

but, the grodos seem faster, snappier, rhythm , and the treble is smooooooother

 

will keep listening, trying different types of music, pink floyd was pretty good with the he-4's !

 

Same trouble I had with them when I demoed a pair. Much Much prefer the HE-500 and HE-5le. HE-5LE is very fast and phenomenal for rock I've heard.

post #9330 of 19318
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

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now i'd be very interested in that, i loved the ms1, love the ms2 even more, and other than the rs's 1 and 2, the ms pro is the other can i'd love to hear next !

The RS1i vs the Ms-Pro, I pretty much prefer the Ms-Pro due to its laid back treble yet still detailed as the RS1i, with a smaller quantity in the bass region yet it goes depper than the RS1i, and abit bigger in the soundstage compare to the RS1i.. But it is only my preferences, but both are stellar in its own prespective kinda way smily_headphones1.gif
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