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post #9316 of 27741
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

looking for some suggestions for an equalizer solution,
new studio/professional type, behringer, peavey, etc
or maybe a home component type, yamaha , onkyo, technics , etc ?

For what purpose? (Home use, studio, etc)

A digital parametric is going to be better than all but the top end hardware parametric EQ. Most good software will provide an option for a quality parametric

The home style graphic band EQ are useless, without a parametric there is no point to EQ

Ymmv and all that of course
post #9317 of 27741

For those that care and are grados fans. 

 

http://4ourears-authorizedbygrado.shop.rakuten.com/p/grado-sr60i-headphone-stereo-mini-phone/203308540.html 

 

grados sr60i headphones on sale 80 bucks free shipping. Read most of the reviews seems to be a good quality headphones

post #9318 of 27741

Free shipping is nice, but if you're in the US that's the normal retail price.

 

http://www.headphone.com/headphones/grado-sr-60i.php

 

Though it really seems like someone is trying to rip people off on Amazon...

 

http://www.amazon.com/Grado-Prestige-Series-SR-60i-Headphones/dp/B0006DPMU4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379093267&sr=8-2&keywords=grado+sr60i

post #9319 of 27741
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Originally Posted by ferday View Post


For what purpose? (Home use, studio, etc)

A digital parametric is going to be better than all but the top end hardware parametric EQ. Most good software will provide an option for a quality parametric

The home style graphic band EQ are useless, without a parametric there is no point to EQ

Ymmv and all that of course

home use

for my files on the computer, there is equalization on jriver, but was wondering if there was something i could use for when i stream from the web, spotify, mog , etc. , was thinking i could insert an equalizer between the dac and headphone amp

post #9320 of 27741
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Originally Posted by liquidzoo View Post
 

Free shipping is nice, but if you're in the US that's the normal retail price.

 

http://www.headphone.com/headphones/grado-sr-60i.php

 

Though it really seems like someone is trying to rip people off on Amazon...

 

http://www.amazon.com/Grado-Prestige-Series-SR-60i-Headphones/dp/B0006DPMU4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379093267&sr=8-2&keywords=grado+sr60i

 

Hope that this is a big mistake on either Amazon or the sellers part!

I almost feel like calling and asking, how is this possible?

post #9321 of 27741

Reviews on the seller state that they ship out of China so they may be fakes, I'm not sure.  I can't find them in Grado's authorized dealers.

post #9322 of 27741
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

home use
for my files on the computer, there is equalization on jriver, but was wondering if there was something i could use for when i stream from the web, spotify, mog , etc. , was thinking i could insert an equalizer between the dac and headphone amp

I see. I don't stream, ever, so I never thought about that (doesn't Jriver have streaming options?)

If it were me in that case I'd probably be able to live with a graphic EQ since IMO even the best streams are pretty coarse and I'd be looking for cheap personally. Sorry can't help more smily_headphones1.gif
post #9323 of 27741
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

 

Hope that this is a big mistake on either Amazon or the sellers part!

I almost feel like calling and asking, how is this possible?

 

 

The vendor is not located in the U.S.  In this case, the product ships out from China.  If you happen to check eBay too, you'll see a few Grados for quite high prices.  You'll see that those ship out of Japan.

 

Edit: I didn't see where another response was made to this regarding China.  Oops.

post #9324 of 27741
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Originally Posted by ferday View Post


I see. I don't stream, ever, so I never thought about that (doesn't Jriver have streaming options?)

If it were me in that case I'd probably be able to live with a graphic EQ since IMO even the best streams are pretty coarse and I'd be looking for cheap personally. Sorry can't help more smily_headphones1.gif

some streams, tracks are better than others, it varies widely, streaming through jriver, i'll have to look further into that, i didn't think so

but i may be wrong,

behringer makes a pretty basic one for that can be found for under $70 bucks, either that or something used off ebay

post #9325 of 27741
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

looking for some suggestions for an equalizer solution,
new studio/professional type, behringer, peavey, etc
or maybe a home component type, yamaha , onkyo, technics , etc ?

"Solution" to what?

Am I remembering correctly that you have a quality dac and amp? If I stuck any "black box" between my dac and amp, then I would need a "solution".

No offense intended, in all things hi-fi, it's the K.I.S.S. method for me.

IMHO of course.
post #9326 of 27741
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Originally Posted by gefski View Post

"Solution" to what?

Am I remembering correctly that you have a quality dac and amp? If I stuck any "black box" between my dac and amp, then I would need a "solution".

No offense intended, in all things hi-fi, it's the K.I.S.S. method for me.

IMHO of course.

No offense taken
Maybe solution isn't the right word
Some folks have commented on how they've used equalization from time to time and wondered how .
Up until recently I'd never considered using an equalizer but the hifiman headphones I just got seem a bit aggressive on top, would like to be able to tame that a bit if possible , maybe the He-4's aren't quite for my taste, I'd never considered an equalizer with my grados
post #9327 of 27741
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

No offense taken
Maybe solution isn't the right word
Some folks have commented on how they've used equalization from time to time and wondered how .
Up until recently I'd never considered using an equalizer but the hifiman headphones I just got seem a bit aggressive on top, would like to be able to tame that a bit if possible , maybe the He-4's aren't quite for my taste, I'd never considered an equalizer with my grados

Any transducer, cans or speakers, that I would have to significantly change the personality of, I get rid of. You put it perfectly -- "maybe...aren't quite for my taste".
post #9328 of 27741
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post


No offense taken
Maybe solution isn't the right word
Some folks have commented on how they've used equalization from time to time and wondered how .
Up until recently I'd never considered using an equalizer but the hifiman headphones I just got seem a bit aggressive on top, would like to be able to tame that a bit if possible , maybe the He-4's aren't quite for my taste, I'd never considered an equalizer with my grados

 

I think you are on the right track.  Using EQ can be much more effective, and cheaper, than trying to find equipment to match your sonic preference.  I'm in the same boat, but I am also holding off on a hardware EQ, since a majority of my listening is with JRiver.  Most of my non-pc listening is usually with pretty well mastered material, and I don't think I need EQ anyway, especially once I get the BDP-105.

 

I have not heard the HE-4's, but I have read impressions regarding the treble, which is why I went with the 5-LE's.

post #9329 of 27741
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post
 

 

I think you are on the right track.  Using EQ can be much more effective, and cheaper, than trying to find equipment to match your sonic preference.  I'm in the same boat, but I am also holding off on a hardware EQ, since a majority of my listening is with JRiver.  Most of my non-pc listening is usually with pretty well mastered material, and I don't think I need EQ anyway, especially once I get the BDP-105.

 

I have not heard the HE-4's, but I have read impressions regarding the treble, which is why I went with the 5-LE's.

 

I've utilized an external ADC EQ before.  There are a lot of them out their in the market as they are a 15+ year-old item.  I just couldn't believe how just adding that EQ into the sound chain just trounced on the sound.  While having the ability to tweak the sound can be a benefit, adding in the EQ was a step backwards.  Lots of others will always recommend the parametric EQ, but there are some other options.  I have the Squeezebox players in my house, so I have the option to use an EQ as a plug-in for the software.  It's not a parametric EQ, but it's a bit more hybrid -- between the standard EQ and a parametric.  Plus, you can configure the software EQ for how many bands you want to use.  This option also supports streaming Internet music, too.  Those options are also available as plug-ins for the Squeezebox software, making the opportunity to EQ your streaming music, too.

 

The HE-4 vs. the HE-5LE.  A few of us have owned both, tend to agree that the top-end of the HE-4 is awfully like the HE-5LE.  It is in the bass where the HE-4 steps back a bit from the HE-5LE.  In fact, the HE-4 being discussed here was actually purchased by me originally (new) a bit earlier this year.


Edited by wje - 9/14/13 at 8:11am
post #9330 of 27741
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

 

I've utilized an external ADC EQ before.  There are a lot of them out their in the market as they are a 15+ year-old item.  I just couldn't believe how just adding that EQ into the sound chain just trounced on the sound.  While having the ability to tweak the sound can be a benefit, adding in the EQ was a step backwards.  Lots of others will always recommend the parametric EQ, but there are some other options.  I have the Squeezebox players in my house, so I have the option to use an EQ as a plug-in for the software.  It's not a parametric EQ, but it's a bit more hybrid -- between the standard EQ and a parametric.  Plus, you can configure the software EQ for how many bands you want to use.  This option also supports streaming Internet music, too.  Those options are also available as plug-ins for the Squeezebox software, making the opportunity to EQ your streaming music, too.

 

The HE-4 vs. the HE-5LE.  A few of us have owned both, tend to agree that the top-end of the HE-4 is awfully like the HE-5LE.  It is in the bass where the HE-4 steps back a bit from the HE-5LE.  In fact, the HE-4 being discussed here was actually purchased by me originally (new) a bit earlier this year.

 

+1  EQ is a science and an art, and there are so many permutations and variations that they can certainly cause more damage than solve problems.  I've been dealing with pro-audio EQ since about 1977, which is a totally different beast than headphone EQ.  I live and die with parametric EQ on my pro bass rig- I cannot imagine gigging without it

 

However, once I have time I intend to spend A LOT of time with EQ on my various headphones.  Taming treble bumps and smoothing bass are my primary targets. With my Grado's, I want to lower the bass bump to about 50 Hz, and roll-off that darn treble between 4000 and 7000 Hz

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