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post #9301 of 18127
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post
 

 

I'm getting quite a bit of confirmation on this, regarding Grado's and ortho's.,  I thought I was a little nuts when I first noticed my preference for the Grado's.  It is starting to make sense to me, and I am beginning to get a little amused at the 'science' debates, particularly because there is more than one or two disciplines in science, and they do not necessarily support the same conclusions.

 

From a physics/electronics/engineering perspective, the Grado's are indeed 'flawed'.  From a psychological/neuroscience perspective, I think they may actually be brilliant.

 

I really, really do not have time to get into it in detail, but my 225 i's not only correlate to the typical hearing response at low volume, but they also take advantage of the fact that one does not NEED to have the fundamental of a bass note below 80 Hz reproduced in order to hear that particular note.  Most professional bass cabinets roll of sharply below 50 Hz for this reason, and yet the open E on a bass is 40 Hz.  I play an extended range bass, with a low B at 30 Hz, yet when I play live I have a very sharp 24 dB filter at 50 Hz.  My open B rumbles and shakes the venue like an earthquake, even though the tone at 30 Hz is most definitely not present.

 

I suspect that Grado are a lot more scientific than people realize, but that they are 'tuned' to a different scientific perspective.  I'm pretty certain I may be called out on this statement, but I don't have time to elaborate.  I am equally certain that there are many Head-fiers who know exactly what I am referring to, but choose not to enter into the endless debates

 

Agree 100%. 

 

Grado was never trying to be "accurate", as the graph warriors call it. They say this right on their website, actually. Grado phones are more "art" than science. When I put my first pair of Grados on my head almost two years ago, I was immediately taken by them. The way that they so beautifully reproduced the natural timbre of strings and vocals captivated me. I think those who want a flat FR or whatever have plenty of choices. Grado never set out to design headphones like that to begin with, so to fault them because they don't measure as flat as a Sennheiser is pointless. 

post #9302 of 18127
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

Was browsing on eBay, there's a pair of rs2s for sale, the guy's asking $369 obo, just passing the info along

 

On Audiogon now, there is a pair of Grado RS2i headphones in excellent condition (box, etc.) for $365.00.  Buyer covers shipping.  However, there is the option to "make an offer" too.

 

I'm not affiliated with this seller in any way.

post #9303 of 18127
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

 

Agree 100%.

 

Grado was never trying to be "accurate", as the graph warriors call it. They say this right on their website, actually. Grado phones are more "art" than science. When I put my first pair of Grados on my head almost two years ago, I was immediately taken by them. The way that they so beautifully reproduced the natural timbre of strings and vocals captivated me. I think those who want a flat FR or whatever have plenty of choices. Grado never set out to design headphones like that to begin with, so to fault them because they don't measure as flat as a Sennheiser is pointless.

 

Yeah.  To me, it's only a fault or flaw if it is accidental or unintended.  My experience with Grado tells me that actually, they know exactly what they are doing and why.  They also do not expect everyone to like them, and to be blunt, I don't think they care.  What they do seem to care about is past, current, and future users.

post #9304 of 18127

I agree, and I am a happy user! If anyone else doesn't that is up to them...

post #9305 of 18127

Just purchased some RS1's and I am pretty excited. I love my HF-2's and my SR-80i....It was time for an upgrade:) Most everyone on this thread loves their RS-1 and I just had to hear them.

post #9306 of 18127
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Originally Posted by Oteil View Post

Just purchased some RS1's and I am pretty excited. I love my HF-2's and my SR-80i....It was time for an upgrade:) Most everyone on this thread loves their RS-1 and I just had to hear them.
if you even moderately enjoy the 80s I'd be shocked if you didn't completely love the RS1.
post #9307 of 18127
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Originally Posted by Oteil View Post
 

Just purchased some RS1's and I am pretty excited. I love my HF-2's and my SR-80i....It was time for an upgrade:) Most everyone on this thread loves their RS-1 and I just had to hear them.

 

Love to hear your impressions on the RS1i's when you get them, (if you don't already have them).

Especially since you own the 80's.

post #9308 of 18127
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

 

On Audiogon now, there is a pair of Grado RS2i headphones in excellent condition (box, etc.) for $365.00.  Buyer covers shipping.  However, there is the option to "make an offer" too.

 

I'm not affiliated with this seller in any way.

 

Oh, there was one listing that I couldn't tell y'all about.  It was the posting for a pair of PS-500s on Audiogon, since I was in the process of purchasing them.  ;)

 

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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

 

Love to hear your impressions on the RS1i's when you get them, (if you don't already have them).

Especially since you own the 80's.

 

I have the Allessandro MS1i and the Grado RS1i headphones.  The MS1i might be slightly better in the mids than the SR-80 / 80i and a little bit tamer on the treble too.  However, the RS1i is just a silly headphone that is a great buy if you can find it used for a good price.  Would I pay $695 for it?  Maybe not, because I need to make as much of my money for toys go as far as it can.  Some people might question why they would pay several hundred dollars more for a 20% improvement in sound.  I can say that the sound improvement can be noticed and we only live once.  That's all the justification I need.


Edited by wje - 9/12/13 at 1:27pm
post #9309 of 18127

Oh, and I should also point out there is a pair of Grado SR-80i headphones on Ebay for a not-so-good price.  The headphones have been modified to a single-entry cable on one of the cups with a 3.5mm female jack, a shorter red headphone cable and a pair of Sennheiser HD-414 (yellow) pads.  No metion of Grado pads.

 

The price?  The auction is starting at $150.00 and the "Buy it Now" price is $250.00.  Personally, I think going to a single cup entry for the cable is a mistake and not worthy of paying an upgrade price.  Then again, that's just me.

post #9310 of 18127
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Originally Posted by Oteil View Post
 

Just purchased some RS1's and I am pretty excited. I love my HF-2's and my SR-80i....It was time for an upgrade:) Most everyone on this thread loves their RS-1 and I just had to hear them.

 

 

Congrats....hope you enjoy them as much as I enjoy mine.

post #9311 of 18127
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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post

if you even moderately enjoy the 80s I'd be shocked if you didn't completely love the RS1.
This is great news!!
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post

Love to hear your impressions on the RS1i's when you get them, (if you don't already have them).
Especially since you own the 80's.
Don't have them yet but definitely will let you know when I get some head time:)
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post


Congrats....hope you enjoy them as much as I enjoy mine.

Thanks!! Can't wait to hear them
post #9312 of 18127

Wonderful the anticipation of audiosonic paradise, hope you will be happy :wink_face:

post #9313 of 18127
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

 

Oh, there was one listing that I couldn't tell y'all about.  It was the posting for a pair of PS-500s on Audiogon, since I was in the process of purchasing them.  ;)

 

 

I have the Allessandro MS1i and the Grado RS1i headphones.  The MS1i might be slightly better in the mids than the SR-80 / 80i and a little bit tamer on the treble too.  However, the RS1i is just a silly headphone that is a great buy if you can find it used for a good price.  Would I pay $695 for it?  Maybe not, because I need to make as much of my money for toys go as far as it can.  Some people might question why they would pay several hundred dollars more for a 20% improvement in sound.  I can say that the sound improvement can be noticed and we only live once.  That's all the justification I need.

 

This is exactly my concern (20%) I already own the 80i's and the 325is's and will have to listen for myself to see if it is worth the extra money, everyone raves about them so I'm going to do it soon, I'm sure.

post #9314 of 18127

Alessandro MS-Pros are on their way to me.

 

Oh yes.

post #9315 of 18127
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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post
 

Alessandro MS-Pros are on their way to me.

 

Oh yes.

 

 Nice.

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