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post #9271 of 26121
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

Was browsing on eBay, there's a pair of rs2s for sale, the guy's asking $369 obo, just passing the info along

 

I saw those, and the GS1000's that Wayne referred to.  For the moment, I am on hold buying anything, especially with the Alpha Dogs just weeks away from shipping.

 

Right now I am playing with EQ to see how far I can take the 225i's.  But the RS/GS are still on my radar; they are a blip on the outer edge, but they're there.

post #9272 of 26121

well, the hifiman He-4's arrived today, i'm listening to them now, they are different than grado's , i'm kinda on the fence here,

my ears/brain need some adjustment time i suppose, they are comfortable, seem very well made, they do have some bass

lots of detail, big sound stage, this may take some time,

as for now, i'm still a grado guy !

post #9273 of 26121
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

well, the hifiman He-4's arrived today, i'm listening to them now, they are different than grado's , i'm kinda on the fence here,

my ears/brain need some adjustment time i suppose, they are comfortable, seem very well made, they do have some bass

lots of detail, big sound stage, this may take some time,

as for now, i'm still a grado guy !

 

Been there.  I'm still a Grado guy.

post #9274 of 26121
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

well, the hifiman He-4's arrived today, i'm listening to them now, they are different than grado's , i'm kinda on the fence here,

my ears/brain need some adjustment time i suppose, they are comfortable, seem very well made, they do have some bass

lots of detail, big sound stage, this may take some time,

as for now, i'm still a grado guy !

 

Jay- hang with the HE-4's a bit.  They are the polar opposite of Grado's, IMHO.  My 5-LE's take second place to the 225i's for most of my listening.  But if you have access to any Porcupine Tree or Steven Wilson in Blu-ray or DVD-A, then you may have a reason to keep the ortho's.  Grado all the way for rock-guitar, but for progressive rock or well-mastered material be it orchestral, jazz or even new age, the ortho's can give quite the experience.  I believe a person can have it both ways!

post #9275 of 26121
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Jay- hang with the HE-4's a bit.  They are the polar opposite of Grado's, IMHO.  My 5-LE's take second place to the 225i's for most of my listening.  But if you have access to any Porcupine Tree or Steven Wilson in Blu-ray or DVD-A, then you may have a reason to keep the ortho's.  Grado all the way for rock-guitar, but for progressive rock or well-mastered material be it orchestral, jazz or even new age, the ortho's can give quite the experience.  I believe a person can have it both ways!

lol, about 30 minutes ago, i thought to myself, maybe i'll try some pink floyd ! , glad i did

i'm gonna take my time here for sure, i can tell these are good headphones,

haven't gotten to any jazz or classical yet

post #9276 of 26121
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

lol, about 30 minutes ago, i thought to myself, maybe i'll try some pink floyd ! , glad i did
i'm gonna take my time here for sure, i can tell these are good headphones,
haven't gotten to any jazz or classical yet

Every planar I've heard just destroys my grados in nearly every category....but because the grados are just so much freaking fun, i find them to be amazingly complimentary and for certain music that fun factor just means a better experience despite being technically "flawed"

Keep both and enjoy!
post #9277 of 26121
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Every planar I've heard just destroys my grados in nearly every category....but because the grados are just so much freaking fun, i find them to be amazingly complimentary and for certain music that fun factor just means a better experience despite being technically "flawed"

Keep both and enjoy!

 

I'm getting quite a bit of confirmation on this, regarding Grado's and ortho's.,  I thought I was a little nuts when I first noticed my preference for the Grado's.  It is starting to make sense to me, and I am beginning to get a little amused at the 'science' debates, particularly because there is more than one or two disciplines in science, and they do not necessarily support the same conclusions.

 

From a physics/electronics/engineering perspective, the Grado's are indeed 'flawed'.  From a psychological/neuroscience perspective, I think they may actually be brilliant.

 

I really, really do not have time to get into it in detail, but my 225 i's not only correlate to the typical hearing response at low volume, but they also take advantage of the fact that one does not NEED to have the fundamental of a bass note below 80 Hz reproduced in order to hear that particular note.  Most professional bass cabinets roll of sharply below 50 Hz for this reason, and yet the open E on a bass is 40 Hz.  I play an extended range bass, with a low B at 30 Hz, yet when I play live I have a very sharp 24 dB filter at 50 Hz.  My open B rumbles and shakes the venue like an earthquake, even though the tone at 30 Hz is most definitely not present.

 

I suspect that Grado are a lot more scientific than people realize, but that they are 'tuned' to a different scientific perspective.  I'm pretty certain I may be called out on this statement, but I don't have time to elaborate.  I am equally certain that there are many Head-fiers who know exactly what I am referring to, but choose not to enter into the endless debates

post #9278 of 26121

I'm very happy with my GS1000 - Grace m902 combo.. classical piano sounds awesome for example..it's hard to put this into the right words, but magic covers it nicely

post #9279 of 26121
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I'm very happy with my GS1000 - Grace m902 combo.. classical piano sounds awesome for example..it's hard to put this into the right words, but magic covers it nicely

 

Dang thats an old school grail setup haha

post #9280 of 26121

yea pre recession stuff :D

post #9281 of 26121
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post
 

 

I'm getting quite a bit of confirmation on this, regarding Grado's and ortho's.,  I thought I was a little nuts when I first noticed my preference for the Grado's.  It is starting to make sense to me, and I am beginning to get a little amused at the 'science' debates, particularly because there is more than one or two disciplines in science, and they do not necessarily support the same conclusions.

 

From a physics/electronics/engineering perspective, the Grado's are indeed 'flawed'.  From a psychological/neuroscience perspective, I think they may actually be brilliant.

 

I really, really do not have time to get into it in detail, but my 225 i's not only correlate to the typical hearing response at low volume, but they also take advantage of the fact that one does not NEED to have the fundamental of a bass note below 80 Hz reproduced in order to hear that particular note.  Most professional bass cabinets roll of sharply below 50 Hz for this reason, and yet the open E on a bass is 40 Hz.  I play an extended range bass, with a low B at 30 Hz, yet when I play live I have a very sharp 24 dB filter at 50 Hz.  My open B rumbles and shakes the venue like an earthquake, even though the tone at 30 Hz is most definitely not present.

 

I suspect that Grado are a lot more scientific than people realize, but that they are 'tuned' to a different scientific perspective.  I'm pretty certain I may be called out on this statement, but I don't have time to elaborate.  I am equally certain that there are many Head-fiers who know exactly what I am referring to, but choose not to enter into the endless debates

 

Agree 100%. 

 

Grado was never trying to be "accurate", as the graph warriors call it. They say this right on their website, actually. Grado phones are more "art" than science. When I put my first pair of Grados on my head almost two years ago, I was immediately taken by them. The way that they so beautifully reproduced the natural timbre of strings and vocals captivated me. I think those who want a flat FR or whatever have plenty of choices. Grado never set out to design headphones like that to begin with, so to fault them because they don't measure as flat as a Sennheiser is pointless. 

post #9282 of 26121
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Was browsing on eBay, there's a pair of rs2s for sale, the guy's asking $369 obo, just passing the info along

 

On Audiogon now, there is a pair of Grado RS2i headphones in excellent condition (box, etc.) for $365.00.  Buyer covers shipping.  However, there is the option to "make an offer" too.

 

I'm not affiliated with this seller in any way.

post #9283 of 26121
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

 

Agree 100%.

 

Grado was never trying to be "accurate", as the graph warriors call it. They say this right on their website, actually. Grado phones are more "art" than science. When I put my first pair of Grados on my head almost two years ago, I was immediately taken by them. The way that they so beautifully reproduced the natural timbre of strings and vocals captivated me. I think those who want a flat FR or whatever have plenty of choices. Grado never set out to design headphones like that to begin with, so to fault them because they don't measure as flat as a Sennheiser is pointless.

 

Yeah.  To me, it's only a fault or flaw if it is accidental or unintended.  My experience with Grado tells me that actually, they know exactly what they are doing and why.  They also do not expect everyone to like them, and to be blunt, I don't think they care.  What they do seem to care about is past, current, and future users.

post #9284 of 26121

I agree, and I am a happy user! If anyone else doesn't that is up to them...

post #9285 of 26121

Just purchased some RS1's and I am pretty excited. I love my HF-2's and my SR-80i....It was time for an upgrade:) Most everyone on this thread loves their RS-1 and I just had to hear them.

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