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post #9211 of 19605
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Originally Posted by lllcarbonlll View Post
 

 

I expected more after read a lot of reviews here and other topics=/

I just listen to metal music , thrash / death and black metal

source is an ipod , without amp =/

 

Yeah.  An amp would probably really help. A lot.

 

Oh, and I listen to a lot of the same music.  I think you just need more power than the iPod can deliver.  What bitrate are your MP3's at?

post #9212 of 19605
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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post

the 325 in my experience bnenefits from a good amp and source, otherwise the difference between it and the 80 can be quite marginal. having said that the 325 goes for a different sound signature than the rest of the SR line. if you like the 80 and just want to improve everything about it then the 225 is a better option and cheaper, with the RS1 being the best option for a lot more money. i found the 225 though doesn't need an amp like the 325 but a lot of people still recommend the LD1+.

Would the 80s benefit from a good amp and source? Or do you think I'd be better off upgrading to the 225s and continue without an amp/dac?
post #9213 of 19605
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Originally Posted by gefski View Post

What format are your music files? MP3? flac?

If you want a transparent window on the music, you have to start with quality files (lossless), sent to a good dac, then to a good amp.

An 80 is a good enough can to appreciate differences in all of the above. You can always upgrade cans when the rest of the chain is delivering the goods.

I listen to high bitrate mp3 from both Spotify (320 or so they say) and my library which is between 192 and 320. my ears can't hear the difference between that and lossless. Think I would benefit more from amp/dac?
post #9214 of 19605
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Originally Posted by jimbob54 View Post


Lets not forget ones own ears/brain adjusting to a particular sound.

 

Nope - that one I don't believe.  I would rather believe that the great majority of people notice something definite and then try to explain it, rather than assume that everyone's senses and brains are useless if it can't be measured ... but maybe that's just me. :rolleyes:

post #9215 of 19605
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Originally Posted by Keopele19 View Post


Would the 80s benefit from a good amp and source? Or do you think I'd be better off upgrading to the 225s and continue without an amp/dac?

 

I own both the 80's and the 325's, and IMO they both benefit from a headphone amp and dac. The 80's and the 325's are just amazing headphone, and better sources really made them shine, especially the (325's). I use both headphone just about equally, also using the LD1+ or the Schiit Magni amp, both with the Modi dac equally, and I enjoy each all of the time.

post #9216 of 19605
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post

I own both the 80's and the 325's, and IMO they both benefit from a headphone amp and dac. The 80's and the 325's are just amazing headphone, and better sources really made them shine, especially the (325's). I use both headphone just about equally, also using the LD1+ or the Schiit Magni amp, both with the Modi dac equally, and I enjoy each all of the time.

I've been looking at the little dot I+/ modi combo myself, glad to hear it produces good sound. How does the 325 compare to the 80 for your ears? I've seen the 325s described differently across this forum...
post #9217 of 19605
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Originally Posted by Keopele19 View Post

I listen to high bitrate mp3 from both Spotify (320 or so they say) and my library which is between 192 and 320. my ears can't hear the difference between that and lossless. Think I would benefit more from amp/dac?

Yes. Then your ears will hear differences between mp3 and lossless.
post #9218 of 19605
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Originally Posted by Keopele19 View Post


I've been looking at the little dot I+/ modi combo myself, glad to hear it produces good sound. How does the 325 compare to the 80 for your ears? I've seen the 325s described differently across this forum...

 

Having the 325, 80, Magni/Modi, LD1+ is a nice combination for me, because depending on the mood I'm in, I will reach for the different combinations, so it is nice to have the choices, especially for the minimum amount of money I have spent in relation to the sound quality. As far as comparing the two headphones, there was a point where I liked my 80's better than the 325's, until I purchased the above amps/dac. I've always heard great detail with the 80's out of anything I plugged them into, where I didn't hear this with the 325's, they to me, needed a headphone amp/dac, and they sound great, I hear all of the detail I hear with the 80's, but with a deeper bass, smoother mid-range and nice crisp highs. A lot of people say the 325 is too harsh for them, I do not hear this at all with them, and never did. All in all they are both great headphones, with the 325's having a fuller bodied sound than the 80's, but I don't really compare the two, like I said they are both nice headphones, just different, IMO. Same goes for the LD1+ and the Magni/Modi, they are both nice, and they are both different, so for the price for all of the above, I have no complaints, my only problem is my curiosity in listening to the dam RS1i, which may be the best of both worlds+, from everything I've read.

post #9219 of 19605
Joseph is giving fantastic advice here from my perspective, except I have the 225i instead of the 325 and the MS1i instead of the 80. I'm also looking toward the RS series next. Dang it.
post #9220 of 19605
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Originally Posted by semicoln View Post

Joseph is giving fantastic advice here from my perspective, except I have the 225i instead of the 325 and the MS1i instead of the 80. I'm also looking toward the RS series next. Dang it.

 

I greatly appreciate your  comment, thank you. Right now I'm listening to smooth jazz, Gato Barbieri, (the cat in the hat) with the 325's and the Magni/Modi, and I find I'm asking myself, how much better can it get than this, which is a big problem for me because it makes me more curious about the RS1i, but I don't want to spend 700$, and find I paid 400$ more for very little sound quality difference from the SR325is, because when it comes down to it, everybody hears things differently, and no offense to anyone, but it is hard to go on reading impressions without hearing for yourself, so I'm a little afraid, but a lot curious.

post #9221 of 19605
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

 

What did you expect from them, that you didn't satisfy your likings, also what did you listen to prior to the MS1i?

 

I dont know man , i just expected more cuz of reviews that ms1i was amazing for metal music and etc . I listen to koss ksc75 and edifier h180p before the ms1i and i didnt found a big difference . 

I'm burning in it with pink noise.flac now lets see what i will heard from this in many hours 

post #9222 of 19605
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Originally Posted by lllcarbonlll View Post

I dont know man , i just expected more cuz of reviews that ms1i was amazing for metal music and etc . I listen to koss ksc75 and edifier h180p before the ms1i and i didnt found a big difference . 
I'm burning in it with pink noise.flac now lets see what i will heard from this in many hours 

I wouldn't "burn in" anything with pink noise.

Grado specifically recommends normal listening only.
post #9223 of 19605
in my experience the 225 benefited more from an amp the 80. the 80 always surprises me with how good it sounds straight out of my iPod. regarding the 225, I don't know if a $200-$400 amp is really worth the improvement you'll hear compared to it unamped.
post #9224 of 19605
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Originally Posted by semicoln View Post

Joseph is giving fantastic advice here from my perspective, except I have the 225i instead of the 325 and the MS1i instead of the 80. I'm also looking toward the RS series next. Dang it.

Same here, RS1i is my next stop on this Grado roller coaster...My wallet will never forgive me!!

post #9225 of 19605
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

 

I greatly appreciate your  comment, thank you. Right now I'm listening to smooth jazz, Gato Barbieri, (the cat in the hat) with the 325's and the Magni/Modi, and I find I'm asking myself, how much better can it get than this, which is a big problem for me because it makes me more curious about the RS1i, but I don't want to spend 700$, and find I paid 400$ more for very little sound quality difference from the SR325is, because when it comes down to it, everybody hears things differently, and no offense to anyone, but it is hard to go on reading impressions without hearing for yourself, so I'm a little afraid, but a lot curious.

 

 

I went from the 325i to the RS1i a little less than 1 year ago.

 

I had all of the same questions that you do.

 

I bought my RS1i used for $485.

 

I listened to both phones for about two weeks before I could make a decision on what I wanted to keep.

 

At first I still liked the 325i....then after a week I liked the RS!i, but just by a tad over the 325i.

 

After two weeks, then it was clear to me that the RS1i was the phone that I wanted to keep.

 

I did not think the 325i would get much head time so I sold it here o  the forums for $195 plus shipping....they were mint chromies....so that meant I had around $300 in my RS1i.

 

I can not tell you how much that I love these RS1i,,,,hardly a day goes by that they do not get used.....I mostly listen to rock and classic rock and blues.....any guitar makes you smile ....I am an AC/DC freak and music from the 70's

 

Are the RS1i  worth the extra money from the step up from the 325i...I really can not answer that, as it is just plain personal preference.

 

I will say that imho....the 325i is the best bang for your buck headphone that Grado offers, sound wise and build quality considered. I loved them to death and felt the sound was indeed top notch.....I loved the agressive in your face sound, because the music I listen too is in your face music and also aggressive.

 

For the $295 price tag I will always recommend the 325i and I will mention some call them bright....I loved that aspect of them!

 

I do not think that if anyone already is a fan of the grado sound signature, that they would not love either of these phones, but then again we all have our own preferences.

 

Good luck with what ever you decide.....I can not imagine you being disappointed in the RS1....I just do not know if the difference in the price tag would be worth it.

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