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post #9196 of 24415
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Originally Posted by Keopele19 View Post


Would the 80s benefit from a good amp and source? Or do you think I'd be better off upgrading to the 225s and continue without an amp/dac?

 

I own both the 80's and the 325's, and IMO they both benefit from a headphone amp and dac. The 80's and the 325's are just amazing headphone, and better sources really made them shine, especially the (325's). I use both headphone just about equally, also using the LD1+ or the Schiit Magni amp, both with the Modi dac equally, and I enjoy each all of the time.

post #9197 of 24415
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post

I own both the 80's and the 325's, and IMO they both benefit from a headphone amp and dac. The 80's and the 325's are just amazing headphone, and better sources really made them shine, especially the (325's). I use both headphone just about equally, also using the LD1+ or the Schiit Magni amp, both with the Modi dac equally, and I enjoy each all of the time.

I've been looking at the little dot I+/ modi combo myself, glad to hear it produces good sound. How does the 325 compare to the 80 for your ears? I've seen the 325s described differently across this forum...
post #9198 of 24415
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Originally Posted by Keopele19 View Post

I listen to high bitrate mp3 from both Spotify (320 or so they say) and my library which is between 192 and 320. my ears can't hear the difference between that and lossless. Think I would benefit more from amp/dac?

Yes. Then your ears will hear differences between mp3 and lossless.
post #9199 of 24415
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Originally Posted by Keopele19 View Post


I've been looking at the little dot I+/ modi combo myself, glad to hear it produces good sound. How does the 325 compare to the 80 for your ears? I've seen the 325s described differently across this forum...

 

Having the 325, 80, Magni/Modi, LD1+ is a nice combination for me, because depending on the mood I'm in, I will reach for the different combinations, so it is nice to have the choices, especially for the minimum amount of money I have spent in relation to the sound quality. As far as comparing the two headphones, there was a point where I liked my 80's better than the 325's, until I purchased the above amps/dac. I've always heard great detail with the 80's out of anything I plugged them into, where I didn't hear this with the 325's, they to me, needed a headphone amp/dac, and they sound great, I hear all of the detail I hear with the 80's, but with a deeper bass, smoother mid-range and nice crisp highs. A lot of people say the 325 is too harsh for them, I do not hear this at all with them, and never did. All in all they are both great headphones, with the 325's having a fuller bodied sound than the 80's, but I don't really compare the two, like I said they are both nice headphones, just different, IMO. Same goes for the LD1+ and the Magni/Modi, they are both nice, and they are both different, so for the price for all of the above, I have no complaints, my only problem is my curiosity in listening to the dam RS1i, which may be the best of both worlds+, from everything I've read.

post #9200 of 24415
Joseph is giving fantastic advice here from my perspective, except I have the 225i instead of the 325 and the MS1i instead of the 80. I'm also looking toward the RS series next. Dang it.
post #9201 of 24415
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Originally Posted by semicoln View Post

Joseph is giving fantastic advice here from my perspective, except I have the 225i instead of the 325 and the MS1i instead of the 80. I'm also looking toward the RS series next. Dang it.

 

I greatly appreciate your  comment, thank you. Right now I'm listening to smooth jazz, Gato Barbieri, (the cat in the hat) with the 325's and the Magni/Modi, and I find I'm asking myself, how much better can it get than this, which is a big problem for me because it makes me more curious about the RS1i, but I don't want to spend 700$, and find I paid 400$ more for very little sound quality difference from the SR325is, because when it comes down to it, everybody hears things differently, and no offense to anyone, but it is hard to go on reading impressions without hearing for yourself, so I'm a little afraid, but a lot curious.

post #9202 of 24415
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

 

What did you expect from them, that you didn't satisfy your likings, also what did you listen to prior to the MS1i?

 

I dont know man , i just expected more cuz of reviews that ms1i was amazing for metal music and etc . I listen to koss ksc75 and edifier h180p before the ms1i and i didnt found a big difference . 

I'm burning in it with pink noise.flac now lets see what i will heard from this in many hours 

post #9203 of 24415
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Originally Posted by lllcarbonlll View Post

I dont know man , i just expected more cuz of reviews that ms1i was amazing for metal music and etc . I listen to koss ksc75 and edifier h180p before the ms1i and i didnt found a big difference . 
I'm burning in it with pink noise.flac now lets see what i will heard from this in many hours 

I wouldn't "burn in" anything with pink noise.

Grado specifically recommends normal listening only.
post #9204 of 24415
in my experience the 225 benefited more from an amp the 80. the 80 always surprises me with how good it sounds straight out of my iPod. regarding the 225, I don't know if a $200-$400 amp is really worth the improvement you'll hear compared to it unamped.
post #9205 of 24415
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Originally Posted by semicoln View Post

Joseph is giving fantastic advice here from my perspective, except I have the 225i instead of the 325 and the MS1i instead of the 80. I'm also looking toward the RS series next. Dang it.

Same here, RS1i is my next stop on this Grado roller coaster...My wallet will never forgive me!!

post #9206 of 24415
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

 

I greatly appreciate your  comment, thank you. Right now I'm listening to smooth jazz, Gato Barbieri, (the cat in the hat) with the 325's and the Magni/Modi, and I find I'm asking myself, how much better can it get than this, which is a big problem for me because it makes me more curious about the RS1i, but I don't want to spend 700$, and find I paid 400$ more for very little sound quality difference from the SR325is, because when it comes down to it, everybody hears things differently, and no offense to anyone, but it is hard to go on reading impressions without hearing for yourself, so I'm a little afraid, but a lot curious.

 

 

I went from the 325i to the RS1i a little less than 1 year ago.

 

I had all of the same questions that you do.

 

I bought my RS1i used for $485.

 

I listened to both phones for about two weeks before I could make a decision on what I wanted to keep.

 

At first I still liked the 325i....then after a week I liked the RS!i, but just by a tad over the 325i.

 

After two weeks, then it was clear to me that the RS1i was the phone that I wanted to keep.

 

I did not think the 325i would get much head time so I sold it here o  the forums for $195 plus shipping....they were mint chromies....so that meant I had around $300 in my RS1i.

 

I can not tell you how much that I love these RS1i,,,,hardly a day goes by that they do not get used.....I mostly listen to rock and classic rock and blues.....any guitar makes you smile ....I am an AC/DC freak and music from the 70's

 

Are the RS1i  worth the extra money from the step up from the 325i...I really can not answer that, as it is just plain personal preference.

 

I will say that imho....the 325i is the best bang for your buck headphone that Grado offers, sound wise and build quality considered. I loved them to death and felt the sound was indeed top notch.....I loved the agressive in your face sound, because the music I listen too is in your face music and also aggressive.

 

For the $295 price tag I will always recommend the 325i and I will mention some call them bright....I loved that aspect of them!

 

I do not think that if anyone already is a fan of the grado sound signature, that they would not love either of these phones, but then again we all have our own preferences.

 

Good luck with what ever you decide.....I can not imagine you being disappointed in the RS1....I just do not know if the difference in the price tag would be worth it.

post #9207 of 24415
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

 

 

 

The HE-5LE can be quite a cliff hanger of a headphone.  You can get so close to perfection ... yet, then question yourself if there's something else out there that could give just a little more.  After going through 9 HifiMan changes, I realized not just one would make me happy.  I'd need about 3 of the models to do so.  That is when I said I'm heading back to Grado for a bit.  The RS1i is quite the dreamy sound.  In fact, the sound is nothing like I thought it was going to be ... but, it is 10 times better to my ears and what I hear so I can enjoy.

Thanks for explaining your experience with them.  It really makes no sense in a way, as the 5LE is such a great headphone.  I'm not sure how the 225i manages to edge it out in my weekly listening, but it does.

 

I went  through a similar process with my main speakers.  It was an intense three years of listening, auditioning, and reading.  I went through Definitive Technologies, Sunfire, Magnepan, Martin Logan, B&W, and Tannoy.  I eventually tried a pair only available on line that came with a whopping 120-day home audition.  Ironically, they are hand-built in Brooklyn, they don't publish specs, and the owner of the company tunes them by ear.  The company is Ohm acoustics, and they build omni-polar speakers that have to be heard to be believed.  Mine cost $1200 a pair, and I have yet to hear anything that outright beats them

 

I guess what I'm really looking for is the 'Ohm' of headphones, and I'm hoping Grado is it.

post #9208 of 24415
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 

 

 

I went from the 325i to the RS1i a little less than 1 year ago.

 

I had all of the same questions that you do.

 

I bought my RS1i used for $485.

 

I listened to both phones for about two weeks before I could make a decision on what I wanted to keep.

 

At first I still liked the 325i....then after a week I liked the RS!i, but just by a tad over the 325i.

 

After two weeks, then it was clear to me that the RS1i was the phone that I wanted to keep.

 

I did not think the 325i would get much head time so I sold it here o  the forums for $195 plus shipping....they were mint chromies....so that meant I had around $300 in my RS1i.

 

I can not tell you how much that I love these RS1i,,,,hardly a day goes by that they do not get used.....I mostly listen to rock and classic rock and blues.....any guitar makes you smile ....I am an AC/DC freak and music from the 70's

 

Are the RS1i  worth the extra money from the step up from the 325i...I really can not answer that, as it is just plain personal preference.

 

I will say that imho....the 325i is the best bang for your buck headphone that Grado offers, sound wise and build quality considered. I loved them to death and felt the sound was indeed top notch.....I loved the agressive in your face sound, because the music I listen too is in your face music and also aggressive.

 

For the $295 price tag I will always recommend the 325i and I will mention some call them bright....I loved that aspect of them!

 

I do not think that if anyone already is a fan of the grado sound signature, that they would not love either of these phones, but then again we all have our own preferences.

 

Good luck with what ever you decide.....I can not imagine you being disappointed in the RS1....I just do not know if the difference in the price tag would be worth it.

 

I really do like your honesty in this comment, appreciate your input, especially when you say that it also took you a few weeks to to decide on which headphone to keep, and you still speak highly of the 325's after keeping the RS1's and selling the 325's. So in reality you practically paid the same amount for the RS1i that you paid for the 325's (nice deal). I'm going to have to order a pair from my dealer over the winter and just listen and compare, and see if there is a 400$ difference to me. Like you also commented, the 325's are a great headphone for 295$, so I am a little skeptical, but I've got to do what I've got to do, so I'm going to listen to them...finally. Thanks again for the (honest) reply. 

post #9209 of 24415
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Originally Posted by semicoln View Post

Joseph is giving fantastic advice here from my perspective, except I have the 225i instead of the 325 and the MS1i instead of the 80. I'm also looking toward the RS series next. Dang it.

joseph is much more patient and consistent, in a good way. and i can second his advice, i've had the modi, mangni, and little dot, they are superb , and pretty affordable to boot !

i also was a ms1 , 225i guy , that has evolved to a ms2, ps500, lyr/bifrost guy, i think i'm nearing my "end game" .

any additions i make now will be more for having "variety"

i have a set of hifiman He-4 coming, bout from the sale forum, i'm giving ortho's a try.

and i could really see myself getting another little dot I+, it sounds so good with grado's

and the tubes are much cheaper than lyr to tube roll

man i'm having a blast !

post #9210 of 24415
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post

Thanks for explaining your experience with them.  It really makes no sense in a way, as the 5LE is such a great headphone.  I'm not sure how the 225i manages to edge it out in my weekly listening, but it does.

I went  through a similar process with my main speakers.  It was an intense three years of listening, auditioning, and reading.  I went through Definitive Technologies, Sunfire, Magnepan, Martin Logan, B&W, and Tannoy.  I eventually tried a pair only available on line that came with a whopping 120-day home audition.  Ironically, they are hand-built in Brooklyn, they don't publish specs, and the owner of the company tunes them by ear.  The company is Ohm acoustics, and they build omni-polar speakers that have to be heard to be believed.  Mine cost $1200 a pair, and I have yet to hear anything that outright beats them

I guess what I'm really looking for is the 'Ohm' of headphones, and I'm hoping Grado is it.

I dont have a lot of experience with speakers but i have a pair of $300 castle speakers and they are the best speakers I've heard. lots of detail in the low mids and very sweet treble. they remind me a lot of the RS1. I've listened to more expensive speakers even within the castle line and still haven't found anything I like better.
Edited by bassboysam - 9/7/13 at 6:35am
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