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My RS1i Grados arrived today.  The pair I had purchased had a bad cable due to a dog chewing up the cable.  The owner cut the cable off and left about 3" of cable left outside of the cups.  I had another Grado cable, so I went ahead and connected up that other cable and just used some shrink tube to cover the joints for now. Probably the most ghetto RS1i out there ... just kidding, as it doesn't look half bad and will suffice until I finish up the recable work in a week or so.

 

The remainder of the package was complete.  Heavier cardboard box from the factory, not the thinner pizza box like the other models.  The 15' Grado extension was included, as was the 1/4" to to 3.5mm Grado adapter.  The cups were in excellent shape - and, did look very good as the seller reflected a 9/10 condition for the headphones.

 

Since I just had the GS1000 headphones a week ago, and now the RS1i, I'm basically going from memory to try and make some observations on the differences.  The GS1000 had a very nice airy presentation and the  detail was quite good.  Also, the GS1000 had a remarkable sound stage as has been observed by many.  But, I don't think I'm a big fan of the G-Cush pads.

 

The RS1i on the other hand, has a stronger mid-range presence.  The upper frequencies are not nearly as "Grado-like" as their lower line as well as the GS1000.  Yet, the detail is very present.  The vocals on the RS1i are stellar.  When I had some Johnny Cash playing earlier today, I don't think I've ever had such a moment where I could hear his voice so well.  This includes other headphones, as well as my 2.1 music system.  To me, the RS1i seems more like the MS-Pro from Alessandro -- but, I know it 's  not.  I'm much happier to have the Grado signature sound of the RS1i as opposed to the MS-Pro which could have the highs tamed a bit and the mids increased.  However, the RS1i is not fatiguing on the upper end, nor is it lacking in the mid-range area at all either.

 

As I move back to Grados from the orthodynamic scene, I'm pleased with their lighter weight.  The comfort really pleases me and I didn't realize how bad I had missed it.

post #9137 of 18632
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
 

Stacker45: I'm going to put this publicly, rather than via PM, as it seems to be a problem when controversial top headphone models are discussed. How do you think you'd feel if someone made three posts in a thread about YOU because they didn't like your impressions of headphones? From time-to-time we get people trying to marginalise opinions that they don't like about a product, which doesn't result in anything other people becoming pissed off. I hope that is not what you're trying to do. 

 

I would think that fans of a company and their products would appreciate as much their failings as well as their achievements. Rather than reply to it (because I wont be checking this thread) please just consider this before you post any more. If you don't like reading negative comments about a pair of headphones you like a lot, I would suggest simply not reading any discussion of them, because they are going to come up.

 

Clearly if you read what Stacker wrote, he's not taking issue with what Dubstep Girl said, but where she said it. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with him, cause DG and Stacker are two of my favorite posters, but since you decided to make this public instead of in PM, I think you should at least understand Stacker's position before putting him on blast, as the young people say. 

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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

 

Clearly if you read what Stacker wrote, he's not taking issue with what Dubstep Girl said, but where she said it. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with him, cause DG and Stacker are two of my favorite posters, but since you decided to make this public instead of in PM, I think you should at least understand Stacker's position before putting him on blast, as the young people say. 

Free speech and she's entitled to state her thoughts. Sorry I'm with Amos here.

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Free speech and she's entitled to state her thoughts. Sorry I'm with Amos here.

 

 

Like I said, I'm not taking a position on whether DG should have or should not have posted her thoughts here. I'm saying that if you're going to call someone out, understand his point. It has nothing to do with Stacker not being able to tolerate differing opinions on headphones, such as what Currawong indicated in the first half of his post, and then suggesting he shouldn't participate in ANY discussion as a result. That's way over the mark. 

post #9140 of 18632
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

 

 

Like I said, I'm not taking a position on whether DG should have or should not have posted her thoughts here. I'm saying that if you're going to call someone out, understand his point. It has nothing to do with Stacker not being able to tolerate differing opinions on headphones, such as what Currawong indicated in the first half of his post, and then suggesting he shouldn't participate in ANY discussion as a result. That's way over the mark. 

I read it as a suggestion that if you can't handle it, then don't read them. There's always the "Ignore" function too. Constantly belittling someone's honest thoughts because you don't agree with them and telling them where they can or can't post is not cool in my books. 

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To the contrary, I really appreciate when someone who owns a product can provide us with an objective viewpoint.  With many of the threads here on Head-Fi, people often quickly recommend a product that they own.  However, having the chance to read about experiences as well as good points vs. bad points of a product such as a headphone is what I love to read in a post.

 

If a post on a product is all sugar coated with not really an objective viewpoint or even the owner pointing out a few of the flaws, I don't put much credibility into that posting.  All of us hear differently.  All of us listen to different varieties of music and have different uses.  We're not always  going to have the most favorable view of a product just because 3 or 4 other members love the product.  

 

That is all.

 

Let the Grado discussions continue ...

post #9142 of 18632
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

I read it as a suggestion that if you can't handle it, then don't read them. There's always the "Ignore" function too.

 

A more prudent approach would have been to simply clarify the purpose of a "fan" or "appreciation" thread. I've seen other similar threads where opposing viewpoints were deleted from the discussion, so it would seem that what's needed is for a mod - in this case Currawong - to offer clarification. Then everyone will know what is and is not appropriate in a thread such as this. Pretty simple. 

post #9143 of 18632
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

 

A more prudent approach would have been to simply clarify the purpose of a "fan" or "appreciation" thread. I've seen other similar threads where opposing viewpoints were deleted from the discussion, so it would seem that what's needed is for a mod - in this case Currawong - to offer clarification. Then everyone will know what is and is not appropriate in a thread such as this. Pretty simple. 

I don't think there are any, nor should there be. We should all be allowed to share our honest opinions. Very simple that way.

 

Stating you don't agree with someone is fine, but this was just too far tonight.

post #9144 of 18632
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

I don't think there are any, nor should there be. We should all be allowed to share our honest opinions. Very simple that way.

 

Stating you don't agree with someone is fine, but this was just too far tonight.

 

If that's the case, then there's nothing DG said that was inappropriate. Everyone - including stacker - can operate with a clear understanding of the guidelines.  Problem solved. 

post #9145 of 18632
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

My RS1i Grados arrived today.

 

Hi Wayne - back in Grado land :D

 

Looking for an objective comment.  How would you rate the RS1i against the best of your previous woodied SR225 mods (I don't think you ever woodied the 325i - did you)?

 

I'm also considering a step back to Grado - really miss my 325i fwj - and wondering if I should just pony up and go RS1i.

 

How big is the difference?  Worth it?

 

Paul

post #9146 of 18632
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
 

Stacker45: I'm going to put this publicly, rather than via PM, as it seems to be a problem when controversial top headphone models are discussed. How do you think you'd feel if someone made three posts in a thread about YOU because they didn't like your impressions of headphones? From time-to-time we get people trying to marginalise opinions that they don't like about a product, which doesn't result in anything other people becoming pissed off. I hope that is not what you're trying to do. 

 

I would think that fans of a company and their products would appreciate as much their failings as well as their achievements. Rather than reply to it (because I wont be checking this thread) please just consider this before you post any more. If you don't like reading negative comments about a pair of headphones you like a lot, I would suggest simply not reading any discussion of them, because they are going to come up.

 

I think that Grado fans have a hard enough time as it is when they venture on to other threads and dare mention the G word, without having their Fan club and Appreciation threads, hmm!, how do I say this politely?, anyway, I think you know what I'm getting at..

 

And just so you know, I can assure you that I am not the only one to think that Dubstep Girl's many negative comments regarding the PS1000 particularly, and Grado in general, have no place in an appreciation thread.

 

You obviously don't know me very well, because I'm nothing if not respectfull of others way of thinking, heck!, I'm even carefull to spell Grado the way a familly name should be, wich is, starting with a capital letter.

 

I sincerely think that you are targetting the wrong person here, but since you seem to think that I am the one who's out of place here, would you please care to explain to me what the pupose of an appreciation thread is?,

post #9147 of 18632
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post
 

Yeah.  I saw that she snuck it into another Grado thread.  I never would have seen it if I weren't trying to evaluate the GS1000 vs. the RS1.  The jury seems overwhelmingly in favor of the RS1i, with the GS1000 getting very few accolades, comparatively speaking.

 

 

Honestly, my main issue with the GS1ks was the Gcush pads...at first I really didn't like them as much as the Lcush...no idea why. But now that I've sort of gotten used to them, and since I've upgraded the gear, these are really showing their stuff. I still can't say they've overtaken my PS500s as my favorites, but they've damn near pulled even I think. 

post #9148 of 18632
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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post

I think that Grado fans have a hard enough time as it is when they venture on to other threads and dare mention the G word, without having their Fan club and Appreciation threads, hmm!, how do I say this politely?, anyway, I think you know what I'm getting at..

And just so you know, I can assure you that I am not the only one to think that Dubstep Girl's many negative comments regarding the PS1000 particularly, and Grado in general, have no place in an appreciation thread.

You obviously don't know me very well, because I'm nothing if not respectfull of others way of thinking, heck!, I'm even carefull to spell Grado the way a familly name should be, wich is, starting with a capital letter.

I sincerely think that you are targetting the wrong person here, but since you seem to think that I am the one who's out of place here, would you please care to explain to me what the pupose of an appreciation thread is?,

+1 here bro. Differing opinions are not a problem when stated objectively but this is a thread for Grado fans right?
post #9149 of 18632
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

 

Hi Wayne - back in Grado land :D

 

Looking for an objective comment.  How would you rate the RS1i against the best of your previous woodied SR225 mods (I don't think you ever woodied the 325i - did you)?

 

I'm also considering a step back to Grado - really miss my 325i fwj - and wondering if I should just pony up and go RS1i.

 

How big is the difference?  Worth it?

 

Paul

 

Hey Paul, I really like what I'm hearing.  Though, I want to be careful so I don't sound too much like a fanboi just yet.  It seems with all the Grados in the past, I was always seeking for more.  This was even the case with the HF-2.  The Magnums were able to satisfy most of my needs and desires.  But, the RS1i is providing just a pleasant level of upper frequencies.  It's not as aggressive as the lower Grados, but just the right amount.  The detail is there ... lovely ... but not overbearing.

 

At the moment, I'm just driving them through my $29 Asus Xonar sound card at the moment.  It has a small amp on it and the sound is really quite good out of the card.  However towards the end of this week, my Little Dot I+ will be arriving as will be my Music Streamer II DAC.  I'm eager to hear the sound that will be produced.

 

Finally, I also have a Magnum ver. 3.5 and a pair of Cabillas' cups heading my way.  I really want to see how that comparison will end up.

post #9150 of 18632

I love seeing so many people giving the Little Dot I+ some love...David at LD should just become an authorized Grado dealer and start making a few extra bucks on a headphone sale since so many of us use his amp. 

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