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post #9091 of 21113
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Originally Posted by ferday View Post

 

interesting, thanks...

 

so i have a question for the higher end grado users....if i want the same "overall sound" as the SR80i's but way more refined, which grado should i be demoing?  i just adore the tone and close in feel for a lot of music, but the detail/clarity just isn't quite up to par (makes sense at the price point)

 

it's hard to find grados in canada to demo!   should i be looking ps500, rs1/2, GS, MS, something else?  would the 325's be far superior to the 80's?

 

thanks guys

I've never heard a Grado model higher in price than the SR325is, but I do own both the 80 and the 325, and I can tell you that the 325 is fuller sounding than the 80 in the bass and mid-range, and the vocals are beautiful. I also find that the 325's benefit very much from the right amp/dac. Also the 80 (IMO) is crystal clear, and has super detail, but yes the 325 has a more full bodied sound.  but the 80 is an awesome headphone, regardless of it's price/ranking. I also owned the MS2i, which for me had too much of a mid bass for tastes, I felt that it didn't sound Grado enough for me, just my experience with all three of these headphones.

post #9092 of 21113

My RS1i will be here tomorrow.  I took a day of vacation -- no, not to wait on the postman, but to do other work.  Getting the RS1i is just a nice bonus for the day.  I have to install a new cable, then give it a go.  I really hope it lives up to it's ranking in the food chain.  I had the GS1000 for a few days, and really missed the sound and refinement when I no longer had it.  Then again, I've been using the MS1i for the past few days (unmodified) and I'm pretty impressed with hit.

 

I've had basically a 2-year sabbatical from the Grado and Magnum sound.  However, I turned back to Grado / Magnum because I didn't like being limited to amplifiers that are needed to drive less efficient headphones.  Sure, there might have been other headphones that have more capabilities or ability to "wow" you.  However, I found I was getting distracted by the wow factor and losing my connection to the music.  In the end, the only thing that matters is the music.  Headphones, amps, DACs ... they're all just material things.

post #9093 of 21113
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

  I have to install a new cable, then give it a go.  

That's not easy to DIY with the RS1/2. Most send the RS1/2 back to Grado to rewire.

They will rewire with any cable you send with the cans, not just Grado cables.

Grado use a special process (slow heat in an oven?) to gently heat the glue that adheres the drivers to the cups.

post #9094 of 21113
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

That's not easy to DIY with the RS1/2. Most send the RS1/2 back to Grado to rewire.

They will rewire with any cable you send with the cans, not just Grado cables.

Grado use a special process (slow heat in an oven?) to gently heat the glue that adheres the drivers to the cups.

 

Yes.  I'm aware of their oven.  However, we've discussed how easy the process is to just peel the glue away.  Another person indicated they used some sharp tool like a dental instrument.  It was basically quite simple to do.  I've built, modified and recabled plenty of headphones.  I don't expect this one to be anything really out of the ordinary.

 

Thanks though, for chiming in.  I appreciate it.

post #9095 of 21113
Who has sent their Grados in to have the cheese cloth type stuff replaced? How ratty did you let it get before you decided to send them in? Mine are starting to fray around the edges a bit, if it comes undone much more I would like to have them fixed.

I saw what jay attempted with the dryer sheets, I'd like something a bit more official than that. smily_headphones1.gif
post #9096 of 21113
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Originally Posted by semicoln View Post

Who has sent their Grados in to have the cheese cloth type stuff replaced? How ratty did you let it get before you decided to send them in? Mine are starting to fray around the edges a bit, if it comes undone much more I would like to have them fixed.

I saw what jay attempted with the dryer sheets, I'd like something a bit more official than that. smily_headphones1.gif

 

I wonder if Grado just replaces the cloth, or do they give you new drivers, too?  Personally, I'd probably just contact them and explain your issue.  They might just send you the material.  If you had some great Grados, it would be a shame if they replaced the drivers -- and you didn't want them too.  Or, if you had the SR-80i model and would like for them to install the RS1i drivers, then a driver swap isn't such a bad thing.  wink.gif

post #9097 of 21113

Selling my HF-1 if someone would interested...tongue.gif

post #9098 of 21113
SR80 but better...RS1 for sure or on the cheaper side SR225.

as far as cheesecloth, I asked and Grado won't sent it to you. you have to send them the headphones and they'll replace them for you. $100 for the service (where they would replace/fix anything that needs it) +shipping.

it wasn't worth it for me and I really don't want them to replace my drivers.
post #9099 of 21113
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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post

SR80 but better...RS1 for sure or on the cheaper side SR225.

as far as cheesecloth, I asked and Grado won't sent it to you. you have to send them the headphones and they'll replace them for you. $100 for the service (where they would replace/fix anything that needs it) +shipping.

it wasn't worth it for me and I really don't want them to replace my drivers.

 

$100 for the service?  I thought it used to be about $35.00 for the lower models and $45.00 for the SR-325.  Or, that's what I paid for the 325 a few years back.  I can see where the higher models cost more.  I thought I read where the GS-1000 was in the range of $150 for the repair service.

post #9100 of 21113
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Originally Posted by semicoln View Post

Who has sent their Grados in to have the cheese cloth type stuff replaced? How ratty did you let it get before you decided to send them in? Mine are starting to fray around the edges a bit, if it comes undone much more I would like to have them fixed.

I saw what jay attempted with the dryer sheets, I'd like something a bit more official than that. smily_headphones1.gif

Just take it off.

post #9101 of 21113

my ms2's were missing the stock, cloth and driver grill, the previous owner had done away with both

and instead just had metal mesh as the driver grill

well, i emailed grado, grado, contact alessandro, who never returned my email

hence the "johnny cap" mod was born (kvtaco17 owns the rights!)

"it keeps the bad stuff from coming in, lets the good stuff out"

 

works really well, right now the mesh/dryer cloth is held in place just by the cushions

i'm maybe going to hot glue, silicon , mounting putty, something to make it more permanent

and look better

 

after hearing the $100 grado price, i said "no thank you" lol

post #9102 of 21113
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

my ms2's were missing the stock, cloth and driver grill, the previous owner had done away with both

and instead just had metal mesh as the driver grill

well, i emailed grado, grado, contact alessandro, who never returned my email

hence the "johnny cap" mod was born (kvtaco17 owns the rights!)

"it keeps the bad stuff from coming in, lets the good stuff out"

 

works really well, right now the mesh/dryer cloth is held in place just by the cushions

i'm maybe going to hot glue, silicon , mounting putty, something to make it more permanent

and look better

 

after hearing the $100 grado price, i said "no thank you" lol


I do what I can lol

post #9103 of 21113
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

 

$100 for the service?  I thought it used to be about $35.00 for the lower models and $45.00 for the SR-325.  Or, that's what I paid for the 325 a few years back.  I can see where the higher models cost more.  I thought I read where the GS-1000 was in the range of $150 for the repair service.

I understand the $100 price is for the de-glueing process required for the RS. The SR remain $35-$45 to repair.

post #9104 of 21113
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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post

SR80 but better...RS1 for sure or on the cheaper side SR225.

as far as cheesecloth, I asked and Grado won't sent it to you. you have to send them the headphones and they'll replace them for you. $100 for the service (where they would replace/fix anything that needs it) +shipping.

it wasn't worth it for me and I really don't want them to replace my drivers.

Yeah, I keep debating upgrading my 225's for the RS1, but a $500 difference is pretty significant and I've been pleased with them so far.

post #9105 of 21113
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

 

Yes.  I'm aware of their oven.  However, we've discussed how easy the process is to just peel the glue away.  Another person indicated they used some sharp tool like a dental instrument.  It was basically quite simple to do.  I've built, modified and recabled plenty of headphones.  I don't expect this one to be anything really out of the ordinary.

 

Thanks though, for chiming in.  I appreciate it.

Sounds like you know what you are doing! 

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Let us know how it goes and what works best!

Also what you decide to use to glue the drivers back in. 

It would be useful to know what Grado uses to adhere the RS drivers to the cups. I understand it is a different adhesive than used for the drivers and cups in the SRs.

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