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post #8461 of 18596

Just got my PS1000 delivered:) Second hand, but really like new.

I'm listening to them right now, itunes (24/96 m4a) -> audirvana plus -> M2tech-> Burson audio dac -Burson Audio HA160 (QED silver genesis cable, supra power cable).

 

the bass and medium are fantastic, same goes for the very well defined high, but they are a bit on the bright side, at least with my setup. it's not a surprise though, everything that i've read pointed my in that direction, the burson audio HA160 are not perfect for them, they tend to give a quite agressive high frequency.

 

though, one thing I can already see if how wide the scene is, that's really gorgeous.
 

post #8462 of 18596

on the tracks I use to test my stuff with, though, some shows some details I never heard, even on my hifi setup (not high end, rotel RB1080, waterfall victoria EVO).

post #8463 of 18596

So soon I'm going for a quest, to find the perfect amp matching the PS1000, or dac amp. Maybe the new soloist, or something totally different, to cancel this "brightness".

post #8464 of 18596
The PS1000 is a really bright headphone out of almost any amp (bright with the upper treble only, not with upper mids like the RS1). You would need to either use aggressive EQ or get an amp that’s kind of sloppy and syrupy to reduce the brightness.

I suggest you try some EQ first to see how much you need to adjust the treble to make it not bright for you. If it’s more than, say, 2 or 3 dB of EQ, then your ears/brain may not be the best match for the PS1000.

I know, I know, this is the “fan club” but the PS1000 is a divisive headphone that does not mesh with everyone because of its frequency response. So that’s why I suggest trying some EQ before spending money on an amp that might need to seriously warp the FR to make the PS1000 sound the way you want.
post #8465 of 18596
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post

The PS1000 is a really bright headphone out of almost any amp (bright with the upper treble only, not with upper mids like the RS1). You would need to either use aggressive EQ or get an amp that’s kind of sloppy and syrupy to reduce the brightness.

I suggest you try some EQ first to see how much you need to adjust the treble to make it not bright for you. If it’s more than, say, 2 or 3 dB of EQ, then your ears/brain may not be the best match for the PS1000.

I know, I know, this is the “fan club” but the PS1000 is a divisive headphone that does not mesh with everyone because of its frequency response. So that’s why I suggest trying some EQ before spending money on an amp that might need to seriously warp the FR to make the PS1000 sound the way you want.

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Originally Posted by deanorthk View Post

So soon I'm going for a quest, to find the perfect amp matching the PS1000, or dac amp. Maybe the new soloist, or something totally different, to cancel this "brightness".

On a less expensive note, a Little Dot 1+ with some Voshkod tubes might do the trick for cheap... Cheap I know, BUT it worked well when I auditioned the PS1000 and I run it daily now with a number of low impedance cans.
post #8466 of 18596

Thanks for the tips guys.

A friend told me that re cabling with copper solved the issue, but doing that is...a problem for me (I'm in Reunion island, means, finding a dealer would be sending away the grado for a long time).

Someone suggested the fostek HP-A8C to be the perfect match for the PS1000, it's a 1600€ dac/amp, though...

Could sold my burson dac and amp, but it's a hard decision to take.
 


Edited by deanorthk - 8/8/13 at 4:52am
post #8467 of 18596
Grados are already cabled in ultra low oxygen copper cable, I thought
post #8468 of 18596

It is. it's a nice, thick copper cable.

 

A recable is not going to radically change the PS1000 sound (or any headphone, really) if there's massive changes to the impedance of the phone due to an oddly designed cable, it can have an effect with certain sources. 

 

Seriously, look into EQ first, note the FR changes that get you the treble response you like, and then ask around if there are amps that can do something similar.

 

I owned the Burson HA160 amp and PS1000 two years ago. I actually did not find that amp to be very bright. Other amps - like the internal amp in the Benchmark DAC1 - are a little leaner and lighter than the Burson.

 

I have a Burson HA160D now and just recently replaced it with the Audio GD NFB10. The Burson was darker and had less treble energy than the Audio GD unit. (this is testing with a hifiman HE500, Senn IE800 and Grado SR60).

 

So if you find the Burson HA160 bright with the PS1000, you might need to reconsider more than just the amp.

post #8469 of 18596
Cant wait to get my ps1000s tomorrow. Luckily i never felt grados to be too bright for me, and i always havet tubes to bring down the treble.
post #8470 of 18596

i have a tracking number for the ps500's !! i'm officially excited
 

post #8471 of 18596
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post

then your ears/brain may not be the best match for the PS1000.

I wouldn't rush into any costly "corrections or compensations" on high quality cans I just bought.

I'd give a couple weeks for "listener burn in", then be able to determine if they are the right headphone for me or not.
post #8472 of 18596
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

i have a tracking number for the ps500's !! i'm officially excited
 

 

Sweet, i think you will really enjoy them.
post #8473 of 18596
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Originally Posted by gefski View Post


I wouldn't rush into any costly "corrections or compensations" on high quality cans I just bought.

I'd give a couple weeks for "listener burn in", then be able to determine if they are the right headphone for me or not.

 

Sure, i didn't specify a timetable for anything. It may take a while to get used to something. However, it's been my experience that the headphones I've loved the most were the ones I liked almost immediately. I never needed more than a couple days to figure out if something was my taste or not. Other people might need a bit longer.

 

And I suggested EQ because 1) it's free and 2) it's easy to see the extent of the FR adjustment that one might be looking for in the future. Considering that the person had received other suggestions from outside the forum that involved a pricey recabling and/or buying a 2000 dollar Fostex DAC/amp, I think messing around with EQ is a pretty safe option to try out. :)

post #8474 of 18596
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post

Sure, i didn't specify a timetable for anything. It may take a while to get used to something. However, it's been my experience that the headphones I've loved the most were the ones I liked almost immediately. I never needed more than a couple days to figure out if something was my taste or not. Other people might need a bit longer.

And I suggested EQ because 1) it's free and 2) it's easy to see the extent of the FR adjustment that one might be looking for in the future. Considering that the person had received other suggestions from outside the forum that involved a pricey recabling and/or buying a 2000 dollar Fostex DAC/amp, I think messing around with EQ is a pretty safe option to try out. smily_headphones1.gif

+1 on all of this.

Especially your comments on amps, they are pretty expensive "tone controls".
post #8475 of 18596

Today i got my hands on a pair of sr225i. It's absurd. I can listen to music properly even when i am wearing them with the earpieces heading the wrong way.

 

Also they really offend my ears for now.

Also they are really uncomfortable.

Also it is impossible to get a good seal using the bowls.

Also the dual entry cable knots itself all the time.

 

But so far i really like the sound.


Edited by CheeseWithWorms - 8/8/13 at 10:59am
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