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Originally Posted by Zarathustra19 View Post

Way late into this thread, since I've been on since '06, but I just got my first pair of Grado's (SR-80) and I'm in love.  I've only had them for a few weeks, but even with the limited burn in time, I'm enamored with the crispness of these cans.  Grado fan in progress.

 

Cheers.
 

 

Nice! Welcome to the club :)  The 80s can be absolutely captivating...I fell in love at first listen. 

post #8267 of 25065
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

Quick question as a lot of you use the LD 1+. Does that amp have a gain switch or is it fixed? If it is fixed about how far do you have to turn it up to get 'normal' volume with your Grado phones? Just wondering because I just adjusted the gain on my MKIII tonight and it made a pretty big difference in both how far I had to turn it up and as odd as this sounds, it seems to me like it sounds better now than it did. That sounds crazy, even to me as gain is just gain, I don't see how that would or should affect the sound, but it sure seemed like it did to me. As cheap as it is I may just go ahead and get a 1+ for my Grado's. Of course that is all I need...another tube amp
 Anybody have a solid state amp they think really works particularly well with Grados?

I love the Heed Canamp with my 325is (gcush) but having looked round the forums I may be in the minority on this.
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I have been just sort of looking, as usual it seems the ones that sound real good are about double my price range (M1-HPA, Burson Soloist) I was hoping someone would say they sound just fabulous with an M-Stage, but that probably isn't going to happen. The one I am really zeroing in on is the Jan Meier amp. I like the crossfeed option on my Headroom amp and this is one of the few other amps I have found that have that. Plus it isn't main stream and I like that too.

post #8269 of 25065
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Originally Posted by jimbob54 View Post

I love the Heed Canamp with my 325is (gcush) but having looked round the forums I may be in the minority on this.

i tried the Canamp with some RS2i and thought the combination was great. very 3D with some nice warmth.
post #8270 of 25065
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

I have been just sort of looking, as usual it seems the ones that sound real good are about double my price range (M1-HPA, Burson Soloist) I was hoping someone would say they sound just fabulous with an M-Stage, but that probably isn't going to happen. The one I am really zeroing in on is the Jan Meier amp. I like the crossfeed option on my Headroom amp and this is one of the few other amps I have found that have that. Plus it isn't main stream and I like that too.

Any of the Meier amps will drive your Grados, and most dynamics, very well.

Crossfeed is a bonus!

Grados are not a challenge to drive. Most SS amps work fine unless the amp is designed to drive something with a very different load.

The M-Stage should work. It has low output impedance and adjustable gain so you should be fine. 

You can also try the MF V-Can with the upgraded V-PSU.

post #8271 of 25065
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

The one I am really zeroing in on is the Jan Meier amp. I like the crossfeed option on my Headroom amp and this is one of the few other amps I have found that have that. Plus it isn't main stream and I like that too.

 

I'm typically not a fan of SS amps, but Jan's products are simply fantastic performers. His crossfeed circuit is pure brilliance. I've never really experienced any sort of enhancement feature that had absolutely *zero* affect on the quality of the music. I never use tone controls, dsp controls, etc, etc....but I'd truly be lost without this crossfeed. It does exactly what Jan says it will do. I've corroborated my experiences with several other head-fi'ers who also recently upgraded to some Meier gear. It's the most subtly brilliant enhancement to my music that I've ever encountered. I run his Daccord into both my Meier Classic (for my T1s) and my Little Dot for the Grados. It's a very satisfying set-up.
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

The one I am really zeroing in on is the Jan Meier amp. I like the crossfeed option on my Headroom amp and this is one of the few other amps I have found that have that. Plus it isn't main stream and I like that too.

 

I'm typically not a fan of SS amps, but Jan's products are simply fantastic performers. His crossfeed circuit is pure brilliance. I've never really experienced any sort of enhancement feature that had absolutely *zero* affect on the quality of the music. I never use tone controls, dsp controls, etc, etc....but I'd truly be lost without this crossfeed. It does exactly what Jan says it will do. I've corroborated my experiences with several other head-fi'ers who also recently upgraded to some Meier gear. It's the most subtly brilliant enhancement to my music that I've ever encountered. I run his Daccord into both my Meier Classic (for my T1s) and my Little Dot for the Grados. It's a very satisfying set-up.

Does the crossfeed circuit expand the soundstage or decrease it?  If decreased, does it roll off the highs?

post #8273 of 25065
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Originally Posted by bbophead View Post

Does the crossfeed circuit expand the soundstage or decrease it?  If decreased, does it roll off the highs?

 

To my ears, it doesn't increase it necessarily, but yet it seems to add a bit more depth to the images. It sort of gets the music out from between your ears and/or on top of your head and puts it out in front of you just slightly to where it sounds more natural. I think some are more sensitive to this than others, of course, but I find it a very subtle yet very effective enhancement. it has zero effect on the highs, lows, or anything in between. No impact on tonality, timbre, etc. The recording itself is left in it's natural state, it's just that it gives you a bit more perspective on it than you may normally obtain with headphones. I find it much more noticeable after I've spent hours with it engaged and then all of a sudden disengage it vs when I first listen with it on. It's not like equalization or tone controls or anything like that. Others have explained it better than I can....check out the Daccord and Meier Corda Jazz threads. I just know that I like it...and that's saying a lot given my preferences lol.
post #8274 of 25065
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

It's fixed in terms of the controls on the face of the amp, but Im pretty sure if you go under the hood you can adjust it. Supposedly it's pretty flexible in terms of swapping out opamps, accepting different types of tubes, and potentially adjusting the gain setting. I haven't messed with mine yet, so can't be of much help. 

 

As for the volume, I typically have my LD turned up about 40% of the way, except for the GS1ks which usually need about 50-55% of the dial. 

Yes, the gain switch is under the hood.

 

This little Amp has gain switch, opamp rolling and tube rolling....all for a low price.....pretty cool little amp for Grado's

post #8275 of 25065
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

 Anybody have a solid state amp they think really works particularly well with Grados?

I have used my Asgard 2 with the 325is and it seemed ok,  I will try it with my new PS500's and report back unless someone else beats me to it.  Will also A/B with the 325is to make sure I am remembering right.  Getting old sucks, although now that I think about it, it is a like a new discovery when you forget something and have to go back and do it again...I'll keep telling myself that...L3000.gif

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Alzheimer's... your reward for having done it all!
 

post #8277 of 25065
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I have used my Asgard 2 with the 325is and it seemed ok,  I will try it with my new PS500's and report back unless someone else beats me to it.  Will also A/B with the 325is to make sure I am remembering right.  Getting old sucks, although now that I think about it, it is a like a new discovery when you forget something and have to go back and do it again...I'll keep telling myself that...L3000.gif

Wow, very timely.  I'm really interested in an amp for my 225i's.  I'm also seriously thinking about the GS 1000 in the near future.  An impressions of Schiit amps with Grado's are really helpful!

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So, just got done with an interesting and somewhat worrisome listen.  But all's well that ends well.  I started out doing an A/B with the 325is and the PS500 on the Asgard 2. Ended up doing an A/B/C/X and some troubleshooting.  I was getting some weird ticking/popping sounds on my optical connection from my OPPO 103.  So I switched over to my Taboo MKIII and the ticking was still there, ACK!!  So I switched to USB from my laptop, no ticking.  Switched back to optical and plugged in the HD800's (XLR) to the taboo, no ticking.  Switched back to the grados (1/4") on the taboo and the ticking was back.  CRAP!! I switched over to the Stax LNB which uses the A2 as pre-amp and the bifrost as DAC, no ticking in the Stax, thankfully, but I am now confused.. Switched back to the A2 and the Grados and the ticking was gone.  Taboo and Grados/HD800 still gone... HHHMMM?? WTF over??  It is then that I noticed that my tablet (Android) was plugged in to the same power strip as the A2/Bifrost and just came off its charging cycle.  Could that have been it?  Don't know (I R ME not EE) but the ticking is gone. Weirdness.

 

So anyway, back to the results, I will make it simple, Yes the Asgard 2 does a respectable job of driving the 325is and even better job with the PS500.  However, I do like them both better from the Taboo MKIII go figure  More energy, and depth is all I can say, the sudition on the TAboo last Saturday is what made me get the PS500 on the spot.

 

Also, I have referenced this before, but I did a review comparing the Magni and Asgard 2 driving HD650/HD800/HE500/325is a while back that might be a good read or not but here is a link. http://www.head-fi.org/products/schiit-asgard-2/reviews/8528

 

Sorry for the LOOOONNNNGG pre-amble and the short answer it has been a weird time.  Thought something was broken...But my impressions I wrote in the review still hold only now I can add the PS500 to the thumbs up with Asgard 2 category.

post #8279 of 25065
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

If you're running stock tubes on the LD, you may find that the GS1ks expose them pretty quickly. Some better quality NOS tubes will remedy that, though. 

 

Glad you got hold of one to play around with! 

 

Yes, i am running the stock tubes, simply because i was curious to know what $120 could buy me in an headphone amp. And i am very impressed by both, the build, and sound quality, even with the stock tubes. Also, it gives me something to look forward too, when i do upgrade to better tubes,

 

Yesterday i listened to my SR80i and played a cd of one of Best Audiophile Voices, wich are among my favorite female vocals cds. Tonight it was the GS1000's turn to get aquainted with the Little Dot +1. I chose to go with one of Loreenna McKennitt's live cd, partly because i believe that the GS1000 have the biggest soundstage of any Grados, so i figured that a live recording would suites them perfectly.

 

I immediately noticed that the sound had a lot more texture, and fine details that seem to get glossed over when switching to my Yamaha's int amp's headohone output. Also the pitch black background made for a stunning contrast in between songs, when the audience was applauding, when i'm done listening to my HP and PS1000 with the Little Dot, i might move it to my main system to see how it compares to my X-Can V2.

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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post

 

Yes, i am running the stock tubes, simply because i was curious to know what $120 could buy me in an headphone amp. And i am very impressed by both, the build, and sound quality, even with the stock tubes. Also, it gives me something to look forward too, when i do upgrade to better tubes,

 

Yesterday i listened to my SR80i and played a cd of one of Best Audiophile Voices, wich are among my favorite female vocals cds. Tonight it was the GS1000's turn to get aquainted with the Little Dot +1. I chose to go with one of Loreenna McKennitt's live cd, partly because i believe that the GS1000 have the biggest soundstage of any Grados, so i figured that a live recording would suites them perfectly.

 

I immediately noticed that the sound had a lot more texture, and fine details that seem to get glossed over when switching to my Yamaha's int amp's headohone output. Also the pitch black background made for a stunning contrast in between songs, when the audience was applauding, when i'm done listening to my HP and PS1000 with the Little Dot, i might move it to my main system to see how it compares to my X-Can V2.

 

 

Very nice! The more we all share our thoughts and experiences on this amp, the more I love it. 

 

And yep, you'll have a very nice improvement to look forward to once you play around with the tubes biggrin.gif

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