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post #8191 of 18578
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post


 I think a lot is more is made of impedance matching than is really there to be honest. Point being that same amp and that same headphone is capable of reproducing astonishingly real music with different recordings, just not that one.

That's true, but as a rule OTL amps don't generate enough current for some cans.

It is very hard to design an amp that can drive all loads well. 

post #8192 of 18578
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

That's true, but as a rule OTL amps don't generate enough current for some cans.

It is very hard to design an amp that can drive all loads well. 

That is the reason that I decided to go with the Little Dot 1+ for my RS1i

 

I was just afrayed to try an OTL amp when my main phone is the RS1i.

 

I must say that I am really enjoying my time with my LD1+ & RS1i combo

post #8193 of 18578

Can't wait to compare the Little Dot+1 to my vintage Yamaha CA-610II int amp. the old gal's headphone output is a bit noisy, so i'm hoping that the Little Dot will at least quiet things down a bit.

post #8194 of 18578
i have an LD MKIII which i use with all my Grados. i have also used a 250ohm adapter cable with the Grados and MKIII and i noticed no difference with the higher impedance.
post #8195 of 18578

Hi, wondering what mods really make the difference in the sq of SR 80's??

Looking for opinions on Turbulent Labs products. Looks like you can make 

a pair of cans from their mods?? Thanks

post #8196 of 18578
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post


 I think a lot is more is made of impedance matching than is really there to be honest. Point being that same amp and that same headphone is capable of reproducing astonishingly real music with different recordings, just not that one.

 

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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post

i have an LD MKIII which i use with all my Grados. i have also used a 250ohm adapter cable with the Grados and MKIII and i noticed no difference with the higher impedance.

 

It's great to see some OTL love with Grados.  The whole OTL vs. TC  tube amp debate for low impedance and high impedance cans has been going on for years and will continue.  You throw in the orthos/planars and which side do you choose?...lol

 

Sometimes, you just have to plug things in and listen...beerchug.gif

post #8197 of 18578
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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post

Can't wait to compare the Little Dot+1 to my vintage Yamaha CA-610II int amp. the old gal's headphone output is a bit noisy, so i'm hoping that the Little Dot will at least quiet things down a bit.

 The LD1+ is very quiet, actually it is silent to my ears, you shouldn't have an issue with that.

post #8198 of 18578
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Originally Posted by HeatFan12 View Post

 

 

It's great to see some OTL love with Grados.  The whole OTL vs. TC  tube amp debate for low impedance and high impedance cans has been going on for years and will continue.  You throw in the orthos/planars and which side do you choose?...lol

 

Sometimes, you just have to plug things in and listen...beerchug.gif


Exactly!!

post #8199 of 18578
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post

 The LD1+ is very quiet, actually it is silent to my ears, you shouldn't have an issue with that.


Same thing with the MkIII, which pleased me to no end as I hate hiss/hum/noise from my electronics and I had heard some people say that tube amps were prone to one or all three, but the LD amps I have heard are all pretty much dead silent unless you set the gain as high as it will go and crank the volume to max.

post #8200 of 18578
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Originally Posted by HeatFan12 View Post

 

 

It's great to see some OTL love with Grados.  The whole OTL vs. TC  tube amp debate for low impedance and high impedance cans has been going on for years and will continue.  You throw in the orthos/planars and which side do you choose?...lol

 

Sometimes, you just have to plug things in and listen...beerchug.gif

It's not about choosing sides or saying which is better.

The many talented people who design all these cool amps we love create each with a purpose.

You can't expect really an amp to drive IEM and HD800 equally well.

Even vintage speaker amps had different speaker taps for different loads.

I think it is ok to feel that certain amps are optimized for certain loads. Many designer/makers identify which loads their amps work  best with for a reason. Otherwise everyone manufactures would state all their amps can "drive any dynamic can out there!" 

There are always exceptions, but when someone states that are not consistently happy with their 325is and an OTL amp, I'd recommend a different amp, and of course plugging in and listening... beerchug.gif

 

beerchug.gif

post #8201 of 18578

I hear ya parbaked....beerchug.gif

 

I did not mean to say to choose sides per se.  You have the ortho/planar revolution in full swing.  You read so many posts about OTL and TC and SS amps driving them well.  Where does the consensus lie? 

 

I totally agree about designers/manufacturers tailoring amps for a certain output.  Goes with the territory to target accordingly.  But, what if the OTLs they designed achieve that task and then some?

 

 

Some personal experiences with gear I own:

 

When I purchased my WA2 years ago, I did so with the intentions to use with my Senns (HD580 & HD650) and Beyers (DT770 & DT880) since it being OTL and all.  One day, I decided to plug my Denon AH-D5000s into it.  I won't bore you with the whole 'wow', how could this be, grinning like a fool scenario, but you get the point.  I like the Denons with SS amps usually, but for tubes the WA2 spanks them good and rings them in nicely and it is my go to tube amp for them.

 

LD MKVII (original)(non +)...Balanced rig up and running and loving it with HD650s.  Had some 'Sones nearby and said 'what the heck'......I made a thread on this combo years ago and could not decipher why the Ultrasones sounded so darn good.  All that power and lack of current supposedly that was not meant for them and they were getting lots of love and smokin'...Did I try to analyze what, where, why, how?  No sir...I shot David at Little Dot an email and told him that the MKVII was spanking Ultrasones quite nicely in single ended mode...lol

 

LD MKIV SE.....Been listening to various phones on it for months (earlier relegated to Beyers and Senns only).....The LD is no slouch with low impedance phones and brings them out nicely with a gain of 5 set.  My RS1i were getting some last week with no harshness, just full bodied detail sound.

 

And now the mack daddy of them all in reference to one amp doing it all without really trying...lol-----------

 

MAD Ear+ HD...The good Doc up in Canada I believe tailored the Ear+ HD with the HD600s....Lo and behold, through the years it has become the amp for Grados....It sounds darn good with Senns and Beyers too.....

 

I'm just saying that sometimes plugging things in and listening for yourself is the best medicine, no matter what it says on paper...

 

Cheers!!!

 

Good times...beerchug.gif

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #8202 of 18578

nice stand found by accident

 

post #8203 of 18578
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post


before i got the ms2's, i was considering the 325, but decided to go ms2 because a lot of my music is not "high resolution" my thinking was the 325 would be very  revealing of lesser source material


 Yes I was thinking about that a bit after my post and I think I am pretty sure what was causing the problem, compression. It was a "Greatest Hits" type cd and they obviously had to use some pretty heavy compression to get 20 tracks on one cd and I think that is what was driving the Grado's nuts. I think that is the case with a lot of older and particularly rock/pop music. Back then most people didn't own real high resolution equipment and the majority were listening over an fm radio, so who is going to hear a bit of compression, probably made it sound even better over most stereo systems of the day. They simply were not able to reproduce a full dynamic range recording. Whole different ball game today however.

That's funny.  I keep reading about how today there is more compression than ever.

post #8204 of 18578
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Originally Posted by bbophead View Post

That's funny.  I keep reading about how today there is more compression than ever.

Agreed. No consistency, old recordings or new, some are flat and lifeless, some are dynamic and alive. Immediately obvious on a good system now, just as it was on a good system years ago.
post #8205 of 18578
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Originally Posted by rgs9200m View Post

How come nobody talks much about the GS1000 (i-version or not)? 

I listened to a handful of Grados and it's my favorite (with a variety of upstream amps and sources)?

It's one of the only two I own now.

Is it a sonic departure for Grado or what?

 

I enjoy my GS1ks, but my PS500s tend to get significantly more head time. It's not a knock on the beautiful GS1ks, it's just that the PS500s are damn near the perfect headphone in terms of my preferences. I'm kinda weird cause I also tend to prefer on-ear pads instead of circumaural. I love the way the GS1ks look, though...the wood is beautiful. Also love how light they are.
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