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post #7546 of 26182

Well I did what I was saying, reconnected all my old stereo equipment and gave it a listen. It isn't bad, but at the same time it is no where near my Headroom amp in any capacity. Certainly useable though. Least now I know.

post #7547 of 26182
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Originally Posted by Krutsch View Post

 

Nice, really nice ... I'm jealous!  I still spin a lot of optical plastic and my favorite spinner (Onkyo C-S5VL) sounds better than anything I can get out of my Mac/PC + gear; especially with the Grados.   In fact, my favorite playback chain is the Onkyo -> NuForce Icon -> RS2i - pure heaven for my ears.  I seriously considered a Rega DAC to get the same Wolfson DAC + selectable filters combination the spinner has to use with my Mac/PC, but decided to hold off on the extra spend (my divorce was looming...).

 

Don't be jealous, you've said it yourself ...''pure heaven for my ears'', that tells me that you are enjoying what you have, and that's what counts.

 

By the way, sorry to hear about your divorce, i'm divorced too, so i can relate.

post #7548 of 26182

I saw a post some time ago about a Grado dealer in Northern Virginia that will let you audition the entire Grado line. I've only been able to listen up to the 325.

 

I own the 225i and want to audition the RS1i and PS500.

 

Can any of you point me in the right direction? 

 

 I live in MD abour an hour out of DC.

 

Much Thanks!


Edited by markm1 - 6/2/13 at 7:38am
post #7549 of 26182
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

Can any of you point me in the right direction? 

 

Much Thanks!

1, Check out: http://www.gradolabs.com/page_dealers.php

2. Call dealers near you and ask which models they have available for audition.

3. Bring your own source or bring your 225i so you can compare to the other models

4. You can likely compare to other brands as well.

Good Luck

SFYW!


Edited by parbaked - 6/2/13 at 8:51am
post #7550 of 26182

Thanks!

post #7551 of 26182

I posted this in the amp section BUT since I mainly listen with my PS500 and Magnum V5 (The AD900x gets a lot of time too) its kinda reverent here too...

 

 

I usually don't post much asking for help BUT I'm stuck between a few amps... My current amp is a Fiio E17 and it does everything fairly well BUT I feel like I'm losing something in terms of quality when I'm at my desk using it as a USB DAC and amp. I currently have the following cans...


Audio Technica ATH-AD900X
Audio Technica ATH-M50
Beyerdynamic DT990 pro
Grado PS500
Grado 225i (heavily modded/pimped)
Grado Magnum V5 Woodied/custom headband
Superlux HD681 EVO

 

All of these would see time with the new DAC and amp... I would like something fairly neutral...

Ive looked at the Aune T1, the Magni and Modi... and can't decide... or even a Little Dot I+, and Modi...

 

Any other suggestions, trying to keep this under $300...


Edited by kvtaco17 - 6/2/13 at 11:23pm
post #7552 of 26182
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

I saw a post some time ago about a Grado dealer in Northern Virginia that will let you audition the entire Grado line. I've only been able to listen up to the 325.

 

I own the 225i and want to audition the RS1i and PS500.

 

Can any of you point me in the right direction? 

 

 I live in MD abour an hour out of DC.

 

Much Thanks!

The RS1i has a lot more treble energy (and less bass) than the PS500s. The PS500s image noticeably better. I love the RS1i's but find the PS500s more to my liking.

post #7553 of 26182

Well I was listening to my new 325is tonight and I am still not totally sold on the sound, even though they are quite a bit better than when I first got them. I think I want to try some G-Cush pads on them though before I quit, some people say it makes a pretty big change (for the better).

 On another note and topic really. I noticed something earlier tonight. I was listening to my 325's and the particular track had some backup singers that came in on the chorus. At that time I was comparing the 325's with my Sennheiser HD580's and I don't know what the term for this is, imaging, transparency, or what. With the Grado I could hear the backup singers and I could tell that at least 1 of them was a woman, but that was it. Listening with the Senns I could tell there were 3 backup singers and they were all 3 women. I don't know what gives one headphone the ability to pick up, what I would call, micro-detail  and another not. I was kind of taken back by that because in all other respects I was liking the Grados more.

post #7554 of 26182
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

Well I was listening to my new 325is tonight and I am still not totally sold on the sound, even though they are quite a bit better than when I first got them. I think I want to try some G-Cush pads on them though before I quit, some people say it makes a pretty big change (for the better).

 On another note and topic really. I noticed something earlier tonight. I was listening to my 325's and the particular track had some backup singers that came in on the chorus. At that time I was comparing the 325's with my Sennheiser HD580's and I don't know what the term for this is, imaging, transparency, or what. With the Grado I could hear the backup singers and I could tell that at least 1 of them was a woman, but that was it. Listening with the Senns I could tell there were 3 backup singers and they were all 3 women. I don't know what gives one headphone the ability to pick up, what I would call, micro-detail  and another not. I was kind of taken back by that because in all other respects I was liking the Grados more.


What are you amping the 325s with and what quality source? I have added the Gcush to mine and love it, but my amp is quite bassy so offsets some of the bass loss you get from the Gcush. If you have a way of upping the bass EQ that may pay dividends. G cush does improve the imaging and soundstage for me though. Great separation of detail.

 

I have also noticed the 325s are very unforgiving with poorly recorded and lower bitrate tracks.

 

In short, keep burning them in (mine took a good 200 hours to mellow out) and try the Gcush if you have the $ spare. I love it.


Edited by jimbob54 - 6/4/13 at 2:31am
post #7555 of 26182
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

Well I was listening to my new 325is tonight and I am still not totally sold on the sound, even though they are quite a bit better than when I first got them. I think I want to try some G-Cush pads on them though before I quit, some people say it makes a pretty big change (for the better).

 On another note and topic really. I noticed something earlier tonight. I was listening to my 325's and the particular track had some backup singers that came in on the chorus. At that time I was comparing the 325's with my Sennheiser HD580's and I don't know what the term for this is, imaging, transparency, or what. With the Grado I could hear the backup singers and I could tell that at least 1 of them was a woman, but that was it. Listening with the Senns I could tell there were 3 backup singers and they were all 3 women. I don't know what gives one headphone the ability to pick up, what I would call, micro-detail  and another not. I was kind of taken back by that because in all other respects I was liking the Grados more.

 

My $0.02 on this... I have learned over the years to avoid rapidly A-B'ing my headphones - especially going between Grado and Sennheiser, which have very different sound signatures.  When I do this, I tend to not like the new one (i.e. the one I haven't been listening to as much).  YMMV, but my brain/ears need time to re-acclimate to the the phones and only then am *I* able to appreciate the subtlety of that headphone's unique sound characteristics.  Try just listening to the 325s for an extended period, with high quality source material that you know well and love, and see if you still have the same feeling about your Grados when you are done.

post #7556 of 26182
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Originally Posted by Krutsch View Post

 

My $0.02 on this... I have learned over the years to avoid rapidly A-B'ing my headphones - especially going between Grado and Sennheiser, which have very different sound signatures.  When I do this, I tend to not like the new one (i.e. the one I haven't been listening to as much).  YMMV, but my brain/ears need time to re-acclimate to the the phones and only then am *I* able to appreciate the subtlety of that headphone's unique sound characteristics.  Try just listening to the 325s for an extended period, with high quality source material that you know well and love, and see if you still have the same feeling about your Grados when you are done.

+1

post #7557 of 26182
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Originally Posted by kvtaco17 View Post

 

All of these would see time with the new DAC and amp... I would like something fairly neutral...

Ive looked at the Aune T1, the Magni and Modi... and can't decide... or even a Little Dot I+, and Modi...

 

Any other suggestions, trying to keep this under $300...

LDI+ and Modi!!! I haven't tried the LDI+, but I've heard nothing but great things about it. I did own the Magni/Modi stack, and it was too bright for my liking when used with my Grados. Now, when I was just using the Magni with another dac/no dac, it was alright, but for some reason, the Modi has some brightness to it 0_0 but a pair of good tubes on the LDI+ should tame that. I'm planning on the I+, but my current objective is to upgrade my Grados. 

post #7558 of 26182

Yesterday I stood next to someone on the NYC 4/5 express going downtown rocking 325s into a JDS amp. I give it a roughly 100% chance that you're around here somewhere. Thumbs up!


Edited by mrip541 - 6/4/13 at 1:52pm
post #7559 of 26182
^lol I know right!
post #7560 of 26182
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Originally Posted by jimbob54 View Post


What are you amping the 325s with and what quality source? I have added the Gcush to mine and love it, but my amp is quite bassy so offsets some of the bass loss you get from the Gcush. If you have a way of upping the bass EQ that may pay dividends. G cush does improve the imaging and soundstage for me though. Great separation of detail.

 

I have also noticed the 325s are very unforgiving with poorly recorded and lower bitrate tracks.

 

In short, keep burning them in (mine took a good 200 hours to mellow out) and try the Gcush if you have the $ spare. I love it.


200 hours? Wow, well I guess we do have a way to go then!! I am using my Headroom Max amp, really good solid state amp. I also have a relatively cheap tube amp I use also. Like I said I am not giving up on them by any means, especially after the 200hr comment. I guess I was expecting them to be remarkably better than my 225i and they are (so far) just marginally better. I will say however I have heard a couple songs on them that they just make me say WOW. I don;t know exactly why these sound SO good. Someone (Dubstep Girl I think) told me they were very revealing of the source and maybe those are just really well recorded cd's.

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