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post #7171 of 27735
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Originally Posted by Moustache View Post

 

So what I know so far checking the internet :

- The PS500 has less soundstage, is more intimate sounding than the MS2.
- The PS500 has more bass, less treble. The PS500 is more warm sounding in general.
- The PS500 doesn't sound as good with guitars but is better with drums.
- The PS500 seems better with vocals.

Bear in mind that those opinions come from different persons with different tastes and not from me.
I wanted to know wich one was more neutral, but wasn't able find anything about it yet. Judging by these comments, I would say that the MS2 is more neutral.

Personnaly, I don't know wich one I would like better. Usually, I don't like headphones with big soundstage (hence my preference for Grados) because when I put headphones on my head, it's to hear my music more 
intimately.

I don't find the treble on the Grados fatiguing but I'm pretty sensitive to bass frequencies and I remember that when I had the Hifiman HE-400, I couldn't wear them for long because they had far too much bass for me. I just want the bass to be tight and fast, not deep.

Edit : grammar (my english is terrible).

If you're sensitive to bass then PS500s are not for you.

I would strongly recommend the RS1s. Slightly lighter in the bass region and very, very intimate indeed.

post #7172 of 27735

The RS1 will be my next jump then, thanks! As of now, I'm just in love with the MS2, if the RS1 and the MS PRO are quite similar, I might just end up getting the MS pro as I heard the MS were more neutral sounding.

post #7173 of 27735

Oddly though i found the MS2i to have a bigger soundstage than the MS Pro and also the MS Pro seems to be brighter.

post #7174 of 27735

Would you say that the MS pro is more harsh sounding in the treble than the MS2?

post #7175 of 27735
Not really so,but maybe, it is closer to a grado sound with more treble sparkle i feel.
post #7176 of 27735

Quick question , a while back I asked about some good amps for the Grado and several people suggested the LD Mk1+ hybrid amp. What I was wondering is, would an all tube amp (I am thinking about the LD MKIII) be as good or is there something in the mix of tube and solid state that really 'works' for the Grados. I just recently read a review of the Mk3 and it sounded like a tremendous amp. In addition to my Grado I will also be using it for my Sennhieser HD580's (think HD600). I know the mixture of a low impedance and high impedance phone makes the choice a little more difficult, or at least that is my impression.

post #7177 of 27735
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

Quick question , a while back I asked about some good amps for the Grado and several people suggested the LD Mk1+ hybrid amp. What I was wondering is, would an all tube amp (I am thinking about the LD MKIII) be as good or is there something in the mix of tube and solid state that really 'works' for the Grados. I just recently read a review of the Mk3 and it sounded like a tremendous amp. In addition to my Grado I will also be using it for my Sennhieser HD580's (think HD600). I know the mixture of a low impedance and high impedance phone makes the choice a little more difficult, or at least that is my impression.

WA6 SE. I never tried it with hd600, but work well with rs1i and hd800 smily_headphones1.gif
post #7178 of 27735
Quote:
Quick question , a while back I asked about some good amps for the Grado and several people suggested the LD Mk1+ hybrid amp. What I was wondering is, would an all tube amp (I am thinking about the LD MKIII) be as good or is there something in the mix of tube and solid state that really 'works' for the Grados. I just recently read a review of the Mk3 and it sounded like a tremendous amp. In addition to my Grado I will also be using it for my Sennhieser HD580's (think HD600). I know the mixture of a low impedance and high impedance phone makes the choice a little more difficult, or at least that is my impression.

 

I don't know how much money you wanna spend on an headphone amp but The DSHA-1 by ECP audio is "designed for exceptional synergy with Grado headphones". Has anyone tried it here?


Edited by Moustache - 5/13/13 at 2:31am
post #7179 of 27735
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

Quick question , a while back I asked about some good amps for the Grado and several people suggested the LD Mk1+ hybrid amp. What I was wondering is, would an all tube amp (I am thinking about the LD MKIII) be as good or is there something in the mix of tube and solid state that really 'works' for the Grados. I just recently read a review of the Mk3 and it sounded like a tremendous amp. In addition to my Grado I will also be using it for my Sennhieser HD580's (think HD600). I know the mixture of a low impedance and high impedance phone makes the choice a little more difficult, or at least that is my impression.

MAD EAR+HD.

Works very well with Senns and is one of the best for Grados.

post #7180 of 27735
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

Quick question , a while back I asked about some good amps for the Grado and several people suggested the LD Mk1+ hybrid amp. What I was wondering is, would an all tube amp (I am thinking about the LD MKIII) be as good or is there something in the mix of tube and solid state that really 'works' for the Grados. I just recently read a review of the Mk3 and it sounded like a tremendous amp. In addition to my Grado I will also be using it for my Sennhieser HD580's (think HD600). I know the mixture of a low impedance and high impedance phone makes the choice a little more difficult, or at least that is my impression.

It has to do with impedance matching of the amp and the headphones. Grados are all 32ohm, relatively low-Z. Pure tube, or OTL amps are generally better matched to higher impedance headphones. The Hybrid approach, like the I+ or Shiit Lyr gives you the warm coloration of a tube preamp, but the solid state opamps boost the power with a low impedance output better matched to the Grados.

 

Having said all of that, I tried a Little Dot MKIII, rated to work with 32ohm phones at the very bottom of the acceptable range, and thought it sounded great with my Grados. I have read that impedance mismatch can theoretically mess with bass response. That may be true, but my ears didn't hear it. I ended up with a I+ though because it was cheaper than the MKIII and both sounded equally great though slightly different.

 


Edited by pallentx - 5/13/13 at 8:16am
post #7181 of 27735
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

Quick question , a while back I asked about some good amps for the Grado and several people suggested the LD Mk1+ hybrid amp. What I was wondering is, would an all tube amp (I am thinking about the LD MKIII) be as good or is there something in the mix of tube and solid state that really 'works' for the Grados. I just recently read a review of the Mk3 and it sounded like a tremendous amp. In addition to my Grado I will also be using it for my Sennhieser HD580's (think HD600). I know the mixture of a low impedance and high impedance phone makes the choice a little more difficult, or at least that is my impression.

 

Another way to look at this is to ask the questions:

#1    how much do ya wanna spend?

#2    do you want the sound of tubes or Solid State?

 

Any good Solid Sate amp should have a fairly low output imepdance, 10 Ohms or less, so that impedance should work with just about any Grado.

 

Tube amps have a bit of midrange warmth, which is nice.     A low cost, all tube amp will be OTL and have a fairly high output impedance, say about 80-100 Ohms.   I have an OTL amp, output impedance approx. 80 Ohms.  Personally, I think it sounds great with a pair of 62 Ohm 'phones that I own. I don't hear any overblown bass or flabby bass from that combo. Bottom line is try it and see.

 

And then there is the hybrid option! I'll let the other guys explain that as I have never owned one.


Edited by Chris J - 5/13/13 at 9:45am
post #7182 of 27735
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

 

And then there is the hybrid option! I'll let the other guys explain that as I have never owned one.

i have a bravo v2, hybrid, around $80, splurged about $12 for a electro-harmonix 12au7 tube , just so i could see how a hybrid sounds with a grado.

lets just just say, it sounds great !

now, do i want the v2 to be my long term headphone amp ? probably not, how long will an under a $100 class A tube amp last ? who knows.

what i now know though is i'll always have a tube amp , no matter what other amps i may have

post #7183 of 27735

I've been using an Asgard 2 I've had for about a week.I debated getting the LD 1+ or +1 (forget where the + goes now :-) Has anyone done a direct comparison?

 

For the record, I think my A2 sounds great w/ my 225i.One of the things that attracted me to the Asgard 2 was it's all around versatility. I've been toying with the idea of getting a HE 4 or 500 and figured the A2 could handle my 225i or other future Grado upgrades(perhaps a RS1 or PS 500 and maybe the HE 400/500).

 

I'm wondering now if a tube hybrid like the LD+1 would be worth adding to my quiver at some future point for my Grados even though I have no complaints about the A2.....for a different sound signature....??


Edited by markm1 - 5/13/13 at 11:20am
post #7184 of 27735
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

I've been using an Asgard 2 I've had for about a week.I debated getting the LD 1+ or +1 (forget where the + goes now :-) Has anyone done a direct comparison?

 

For the record, I think my A2 sounds great w/ my 225i.One of the things that attracted me to the Asgard 2 was it's all around versatility. I've been toying with the idea of getting a HE 4 or 500 and figured the A2 could handle my 225i or other future Grado upgrades(perhaps a RS1 or PS 500 and maybe the HE 400/500).

 

I'm wondering now if a tube hybrid like the LD+1 would be worth adding to my quiver at some future point for my Grados even though I have no complaints about the A2.....for a different sound signature....??


ABSOLUTELY!!! until i got the bravo, i'd never heard my 225, or ms1 with a hybrid or tube amp, i'll always have one now.

i just spent time with the magni,loved its sound but sold it because it had no pre-outs, now i really want the A2 , and i'd really like to try one of the project kits for my next tube amp, i need to win the lottery damn it !

post #7185 of 27735
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Originally Posted by SHAHZADA123 View Post

MAD EAR+HD.

Works very well with Senns and is one of the best for Grados.

+1 - or even better is the MAD Ear+ Super 2 if you want to drive a wide range of dynamic cans.

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