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post #7171 of 19429
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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

 

Hey Bill. You recently picked up the SR60i, right? I highly recommend trying the L-Cush pads on your SR60i. It's a simple pad swap, and for $20 I think it substantially improves the sound of the lower model Grados. Things to expect: slightly brighter tonality, better defined vocals, greater imaging, greater separation, greater "air", greater bass definition. It's an investment that I personally consider mandatory for the SR60i.

 

I've always been a strong advocate for the SR60i w/ L-Cush pads, and I'm reaffirming my advocacy today! I've missed my SR60i, so today I picked up a new pair from the local Grado retailer :) I listened for a while with the stock pads, and then switched to L-Cush and immediately re-experienced why I advocate for the L-Cush pads so strongly. I still maintain SR60i w/ L-Cush pads is the best value I have yet found in the headphone world.

 

If the $20 isn't a problem, try it out! Report back with your findings!


Gotcha, thank you man!  I will order a pair today, give them a go, and get back to you on this. :) Currently I am using the yellow AT (?) pads and they are an improvement in comfort over the stock pads.

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Hooked up my Grados a few weeks back with a new cable!
Moon Audio Blue Dragon

 

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post #7173 of 19429
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Originally Posted by BillBenedict View Post


Gotcha, thank you man!  I will order a pair today, give them a go, and get back to you on this. smily_headphones1.gif Currently I am using the yellow AT (?) pads and they are an improvement in comfort over the stock pads.

I gave my 60's to my dad after getting 325s. He got L Cush pads for them and now I feel like I may have been a tad hasty in getting the 325s after hearing them.
post #7174 of 19429
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Originally Posted by Minejiro View Post

I've been listening to my HiFiMan HE 500's with a Schiit Lyr.  Do you think Grado Rs1i would also be a good pairing for the amp?

It's possible the RS1i might be too efficient for the Lyr's high power. Meaning the RS1i might have some background hiss using the Lyr. You might want to ask on one of the Schiit threads, as I'm sure someone has tried the Lyr with Grados.

 

Besides the hiss though, I'm sure music would sound rockin' on it!

post #7175 of 19429
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Originally Posted by jimbob54 View Post


I gave my 60's to my dad after getting 325s. He got L Cush pads for them and now I feel like I may have been a tad hasty in getting the 325s after hearing them.

Haha, I can relate to this. I started with the SR225i, then went to the SR325is. Then I tried the SR60i with L-Cush pads just to see if I could in good conscience recommend it to my friends as a nice low-cost headphone. Well, much to my surprise, I actually ended up liking the sound of the SR60i better than the SR225i and the SR325i!

 

So it was an interesting way to learn that more expensive does not always mean more enjoyable. Especially in this headphone game.

post #7176 of 19429
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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

Haha, I can relate to this. I started with the SR225i, then went to the SR325is. Then I tried the SR60i with L-Cush pads just to see if I could in good conscience recommend it to my friends as a nice low-cost headphone. Well, much to my surprise, I actually ended up liking the sound of the SR60i better than the SR225i and the SR325i!

So it was an interesting way to learn that more expensive does not always mean more enjoyable. Especially in this headphone game.
BUT I have since got the G Cush on the 325. Now that is a different story. Cannot fault it but wish they were £30 cheaper. An extra hour on the volume dial to me negates the additional distance from the ears and makes the 325 so much more wearable and also listenable.

Next step is getting the tape out but I am fearful of tearing the foam.
post #7177 of 19429
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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

It's possible the RS1i might be too efficient for the Lyr's high power. Meaning the RS1i might have some background hiss using the Lyr. You might want to ask on one of the Schiit threads, as I'm sure someone has tried the Lyr with Grados.

Besides the hiss though, I'm sure music would sound rockin' on it!

Does anyone know how much gain the Lyr has?
post #7178 of 19429
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Originally Posted by jimbob54 View Post


BUT I have since got the G Cush on the 325. Now that is a different story. Cannot fault it but wish they were £30 cheaper. An extra hour on the volume dial to me negates the additional distance from the ears and makes the 325 so much more wearable and also listenable.

Next step is getting the tape out but I am fearful of tearing the foam.

Ah I gotcha. I thought the G-Cush didn't sound too bad on the SR325is, and certainly offers greater comfort. But the G-Cush takes away the intimacy that I specifically like Grados for. If I want comfort and big 10-row soundstage, there are plenty of other headphones that'll get me there.

post #7179 of 19429
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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

Ah I gotcha. I thought the G-Cush didn't sound too bad on the SR325is, and certainly offers greater comfort. But the G-Cush takes away the intimacy that I specifically like Grados for. If I want comfort and big 10-row soundstage, there are plenty of other headphones that'll get me there.

 

Including Grado's own GS/PS1000 wink.gif

post #7180 of 19429
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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post

Including Grado's own GS/PS1000 wink.gif

Lend me the extra £1000 to get there and I am sure I will agree. Double wink.

Seriously though, assuming I had UK equivalent of about $300 for a very different pair of cans to the 325s, what would anyone reccomend? I can get the AKG 701 or at a push Senn 600 for around that. Variety is the spice and all that.
post #7181 of 19429
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post


Much as I love Grados, I do not trust any audio review from Comsumer Reports.
Many years ago they reviewed a Bose system and gave them a lukewarm review.
Bose sued them, Consumer Reports lost. rolleyes.gif
I'm not too sure how anyone expects Consumer Reports to keep their objectivity after an outcome like that.
Which reminds me, I have another reason to dislike Bose! mad.gif


Ya, companies like Bose, do more harm than good to the audio industry. I love some of the posts I have read on they're NC headphones, comments like "they really dont sound that bad" or "I only use them to sleep when I fly" where SQ is a secondary issue. One person was bragging about owning the Bose clock radio, like it is some how even mid-fi. Bose won't allow they're products to be displayed in a situation where customers can make direct comparisons to other equipment, that is a bit shady wanting to keep the uneducated audio novice in the dark.

post #7182 of 19429
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Originally Posted by PredatorZ View Post


Ya, companies like Bose, do more harm than good to the audio industry. I love some of the posts I have read on they're NC headphones, comments like "they really dont sound that bad" or "I only use them to sleep when I fly" where SQ is a secondary issue. One person was bragging about owning the Bose clock radio, like it is some how even mid-fi. Bose won't allow they're products to be displayed in a situation where customers can make direct comparisons to other equipment, that is a bit shady wanting to keep the uneducated audio novice in the dark.

Have you ever noticed that Bose very rarely advertise in audio magazines?
They seem to advertise everywhere but in audio magazines.
I mean, what's up with that?
Edited by Chris J - 5/11/13 at 1:07am
post #7183 of 19429
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Originally Posted by PredatorZ View Post


Ya, companies like Bose, do more harm than good to the audio industry. I love some of the posts I have read on they're NC headphones, comments like "they really dont sound that bad" or "I only use them to sleep when I fly" where SQ is a secondary issue. One person was bragging about owning the Bose clock radio, like it is some how even mid-fi. Bose won't allow they're products to be displayed in a situation where customers can make direct comparisons to other equipment, that is a bit shady wanting to keep the uneducated audio novice in the dark.

Yeah werent the triports the dr dres of their day? Lol
post #7184 of 19429
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Originally Posted by streetdragon View Post


Interested too

 

So what I know so far checking the internet :

- The PS500 has less soundstage, is more intimate sounding than the MS2.
- The PS500 has more bass, less treble. The PS500 is more warm sounding in general.
- The PS500 doesn't sound as good with guitars but is better with drums.
- The PS500 seems better with vocals.

Bear in mind that those opinions come from different persons with different tastes and not from me.
I wanted to know wich one was more neutral, but wasn't able find anything about it yet. Judging by these comments, I would say that the MS2 is more neutral.

Personnaly, I don't know wich one I would like better. Usually, I don't like headphones with big soundstage (hence my preference for Grados) because when I put headphones on my head, it's to hear my music more 
intimately.

I don't find the treble on the Grados fatiguing but I'm pretty sensitive to bass frequencies and I remember that when I had the Hifiman HE-400, I couldn't wear them for long because they had far too much bass for me. I just want the bass to be tight and fast, not deep.

Edit : grammar (my english is terrible).


Edited by Moustache - 5/11/13 at 10:46am
post #7185 of 19429
I'm definitely registering for this fan club!

When i first were looking to get into high quality headphones, i read a lot about Grado, at the time i went with the Koss Portapro, as i thought that >€100 was a lot of money for headphones.
(Boy was i wrong)
Then at one point i went to a shop to look for a good pre-amp, and the owner had a SR-80i laying on the table.
I asked him if i could have a listen, and he nodded.

I plugged it into my amp, put on Tubular Bells, and my body shivered.
Two weeks later i went to another audio store, to listen to the SR325is.
No shiver, nothing.
Then i listened to some other headphones they had, the HD800, HD600, some Beyerdynamics, the GS1000(my god if i could afford this) and then the (buttoned) RS2...

He said he could sell them for a nice price beforehand, but, even if they would've been full price, he would have sold them to me.(€399 instead of €650)

Now it's a few weeks later, and i have been enjoying the RS-2 ever since.


Thank you Head-Fi for introducing me to audio quality, and thank you Grado, for such amazing Headphones!


-CH23
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