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post #7006 of 17397
Haven't personally, but have heard the effect is rather nice. Along the lines of the MS1000 mod...some have even stripped the red color off and had them plain...others have had them trimmed down so they don't add the extra distance between the driver and the ear.
post #7007 of 17397
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Originally Posted by David RoBa View Post

Thanks a lot Biscuitz! You make this sound really easy and you got my attention now. This contraption sounds RS1ish right? 

Well, in the sense that all Grados sound similar, yeah. I don't wanna get your hopes up unnecessarily, but here's my brief evaluation of the TX (Magnum) drivers in Vibro Classic Cups:

 

First thing's first, the tonality will shift depending on the cups your drivers are housed in, as well as how well they're seated.

 

My personal pair, seated in Vibro Classic Cups, are very bright, tonally. The bass extends even less than my SR60i. Before the bass rolls off, however, it is more neutral than the Grados. That is, it doesn't quite have the mid-bass hump of Grados. This can be a plus or a con depending on your tastes. I personally like the Grado mid-bass hump, as it adds groove, body, and a dash of warmth. The RS1i has better bass extension and a nicely rounded mid-bass hump that I, personally, prefer to the TX.

 

Mids are interesting on the TX. Gone is the shoutiness or peakiness that Grados tend to exhibit. The TX mids are much more even-handed. They sound withdrawn if you compare them directly to Grado mids, but that's because Grado mids are rather forward to begin with. I really like the TX mid presentation, as it is inoffensive, ultra-clear sounding, and brings a greater sense of depth and spaciousness to the overall sound.

 

Highs are, I would say, extremely detailed on the TX. The treble is very elevated, very clear, and very airy. It's like nothing I've heard in any headphone. I don't really notice any uneven peaks in the treble, but, because it is elevated and extremely revealing, it rather shreds apart any recordings with sibilance. The RS1i, just going by my memory, has a much more relaxed treble than the TX. It's less detailed, but also less sibilant. I like the highs on the TX with quality recordings that don't have sibilance. But I sometimes wish I had the RS1i's highs because they're more forgiving.

 

As far as clarity goes, the TX is a large step up from all the Grados I've heard (I haven't heard GS1000 / PS1000). I recently A/B'd the SR125i with L-Cush pads and my TX, and there was no comparison in clarity. The TX drivers have a far blacker background, as they say. Soundstage is also the best I've heard in a Grado-style headphone. The more neutral mids lend to this sense of soundstage, but truly the separation and soundstage depth is impressive for an on-ear design. It's one of my favorite features of the TX.

 

Largely, it comes down to this though. I'd rather have the tonality of the RS1i. Its tonality is more natural. The bass presentation is just gorgeous with guitars. Although the TX has safer mids, greater clarity, and superior soundstage depth.

 

That's the best I can do to give you an idea. If I had the opportunity to A/B my TX and the RS1i, I have a feeling I'd prefer the RS1i. But I can't say that definitively as I haven't heard the RS1i in five or six months. But I am thinking about picking one up in addition to an MS-Pro and comparing the three in the near future, in order to have that definitive answer...

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Originally Posted by David RoBa View Post

So sad production stopped making them. 

 

Has anyone tried this:

http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=15062.0

http://jaben.net/shopping2/Alu-Mod.html

 

I found them and they look sick, but not sure sound wise.


that does look cool !

post #7009 of 17397
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post

Site is still up but he doesn't make them anymore.

 

Thanks for the update. I guess I saved $400+.

post #7010 of 17397

Hi : )

I listen to heavier and more aggressive Metal musics a lot.Styles like death metal, black metal, doom metal,thrash metal, etc.

I want a headphone that has the best present and pleasure in these stuffs. Something great for electric guitar, specially  high distorted guitar sounds, drums, etc.

 

Which Grado is better for these kinds of musics? SR60 or SR80 ?

post #7011 of 17397
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Originally Posted by X625 View Post

Hi : )

I listen to heavier and more aggressive Metal musics a lot.Styles like death metal, black metal, doom metal,thrash metal, etc.

I want a headphone that has the best present and pleasure in these stuffs. Something great for electric guitar, specially  high distorted guitar sounds, drums, etc.

 

Which Grado is better for these kinds of musics? SR60 or SR80 ?

They are both highly similar, the SR80i being slightly brighter than the SR60i.
They should both do well, and i suggest SR60i due to it's lower pricetag and less chance of it having overprominent treble.

post #7012 of 17397

How about the igrado vs. sr60i? They have the same (?) drivers but does the difference in enclosure and headband style affect sound quality?

post #7013 of 17397
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Originally Posted by X625 View Post

Hi : )
I listen to heavier and more aggressive Metal musics a lot.Styles like death metal, black metal, doom metal,thrash metal, etc.
I want a headphone that has the best present and pleasure in these stuffs. Something great for electric guitar, specially  high distorted guitar sounds, drums, etc.

Which Grado is better for these kinds of musics? SR60 or SR80 ?

I do some metal music too with my rig. I have sr80i and LDmkII to drive them...

For example House of Gold and Bones by Stone Sour sounds really juicy and the guitars are just fantastic (listen to The Uncanny Valley)! Then again Fear Factory can sound a bit harsh from time to time but tubes help a bit there. SYL and Ziltoid got more meat to the bones as well!!

With sr80i it is all about the source quality. If the recording is made poorly (symbals, bad de-esser) it will get a bit annoying to listen. Guitars sound really nice from my rig. Even drop tunings and 7-string axes sound just fantastic!

I use the L-bowl with tape mod. The highs might be lesser problem with s-pads.

Haven't heard the sr60i but I do like my metal through sr80i!
post #7014 of 17397
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Originally Posted by jaycee1 View Post

How about the igrado vs. sr60i? They have the same (?) drivers but does the difference in enclosure and headband style affect sound quality?

 

The iGrado is a darker sounding headphone.

The headband wraps around the back of your head so it is a more difficult headphone to take off your head that a "Normal" headphone like the SR-60i.

The iGrado is also a lot more compact than an SR-60i or SR-80i.

post #7015 of 17397
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

 

The iGrado is a darker sounding headphone.

The headband wraps around the back of your head so it is a more difficult headphone to take off your head that a "Normal" headphone like the SR-60i.

The iGrado is also a lot more compact than an SR-60i or SR-80i.

 

I really appreciate the info. Thanks. 

post #7016 of 17397
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Originally Posted by jaycee1 View Post

I really appreciate the info. Thanks. 

Hey, no problem!
I forgot to add that you won't get any deep, deep bass or ultra high frequency treble from the iGrados. But the midrange is quite well balanced, you don't really miss the missing bandwidth too much.
post #7017 of 17397

Based on reviews I've read, it seems that the various grado models have an increasing amount of treble in the following order:

 

igrado < sr60i < sr80i

 

What's odd is that I have read many reviews which claim that both the 60 and 80 are 'neutral' and faithful to the source, yet others claim these models are colored with a lot more treble response than average. Can someone explain this apparent contradiction?

post #7018 of 17397
Some people are more sensitive to treble than other people.

The measurements say that most grados are bright with the treble. Whether or not someone picks up on this or not (or likes it) will depend on their ears and brain.
post #7019 of 17397

I first learned about Grado when I became a huge fan of their phono cartridges. I love the sound of the iGrados (but not the headband!) for the same reason the cartridges appeal to me. There is something about that sound that defies description or the heavy application of buzzwords. I just miss them when I listen to a product from another manufacturer and always end up going back to Grado.

 

Since I have retired I can't spend much on phones. I'd rather spend my limited budget on music. Someday when I upgrade my headphones I am almost certain it will be a new pair of Grados.

 

Bruce

post #7020 of 17397

In my own experience, I find the recording and the source components and ones individual hearing to have the biggest effect on Grado headphones. I've owned the SR80i and enjoyed them very much, but with some recordings the highs where brighter than others at times, but they were not intolerable to me at all, unless of course the volume was ridiculously loud, so I do not blame the headphones. I currently own the SR 325is, and do not find these headphones bright in any way what so ever, they are amazing to my ears, as were the SR80i's. So I definitely take other opinions on this topics with a grain of salt, because hearing for yourself is the only truth. I think the highs are crystal clear and crisp, and I love them!

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