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post #6901 of 24632

It would be interesting if someone who actually had access to all the SR series headphones could do a short review of all of them, from the 60 to the 325, compared one to the other, using the same source, same electronics ect

post #6902 of 24632
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

 

Don't do it! I was raving about the SR-225i and loved them. Made the mistake of getting the 325i and feeling like I lost something. I've been trying to get the 225i again ever since.

 

I too quickly sold the 225i after thinking the 325is was an upgrade.

 

I still need to try the 125is.

 

It seems like with the 325is I gave up some mids for more bass and treble.

That doesn't surprise me. I found the SR325 to be the most V-shaped of the Prestige Series. I actually preferred the SR60 with L-Cush pads to the SR325.

 

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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

It would be interesting if someone who actually had access to all the SR series headphones could do a short review of all of them, from the 60 to the 325, compared one to the other, using the same source, same electronics ect

I have done this. http://www.head-fi.org/t/627634/the-oft-overshadowed-sr125i-my-favorite-prestige-series-model-whats-your-favorite

 

But here's the problem. I never did a more extensive write-up of the series because I started to realize that there's some rather consistent inconsistency among Grado models. That is to say, I have heard two different SR225i's that sounded very different (one had far more bass than the other). I have heard multiple RS1i's that sounded quite different. And if you read through that thread, you'll find absolutely contradictory impressions of the same model headphone between another person and myself. Also, if you do some searching on the forums here, you'll see that I'm not the only one to bring up the issue of product inconsistency.

 

So what does this mean for us? It means any extensive write-up comparing the entire Prestige Series must be taken with a fistful of salt. And, at that point, it seems almost futile and potentially misleading to publish such a write-up. The best thing a person could do is to audition the entire lineup for themselves...but I know this is not always an option, so things indeed are tricky.

 

This is why I am a strong proponent of recommending the SR60i to people. Just grab the SR60i and use the L-Cush pads, and be done with it. Most people here will agree that Grado has a "house sound," which just means that the SR60i has a similar sonic signature as the other products in the Prestige Series lineup. The Prestige Series even has the same "house sound" as the Reference Series. Only the PS500 and 1K models depart from this house sound. Obviously you have minor differences between models, but the general Grado signature is always there.

 

I like what tdockweiler said above. I want everyone to understand what he's trying to communicate. Do not assume that you're getting a better sounding headphone by going up in the Grado lineup! I did this same thing, and in the end I actually "downgraded" in the lineup once I actually compared the entire lineup. I assumed that by going up the Grado lineup, I'd be paying for better sounding headphones. Really the entire Prestige Series sounds about the same, with minor differences here and there. What you enjoy most is more up to preference than to technical improvements.

 

Audition before you buy!


Edited by Biscuitz - 4/13/13 at 2:38am
post #6903 of 24632

Agree with Biscuitz - a lot of it comes down to personal preference.

 

My personal favourite has been the 325i.

 

But trying to recommend a specific Grado can be very difficult (eg tdock telling someone else not to go with the 325i).  Everyone has a different personal preference.  I often see others saying 325is are like having needles in your ears (sharp painful highs).  I've never experienced this - and the only time I've found them too bright has been with 'hotly-mastered' music - ie it's the recording itself that is bright.

 

The only way to know for sure is to audition for yourself.

post #6904 of 24632
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

Agree with Biscuitz - a lot of it comes down to personal preference.

 

My personal favourite has been the 325i.

 

But trying to recommend a specific Grado can be very difficult (eg tdock telling someone else not to go with the 325i).  Everyone has a different personal preference.  I often see others saying 325is are like having needles in your ears (sharp painful highs).  I've never experienced this - and the only time I've found them too bright has been with 'hotly-mastered' music - ie it's the recording itself that is bright.

 

The only way to know for sure is to audition for yourself.


hmmmmmm, letting one's own ears be the judge, what a novel idea ! lol

after getting my first grado, the 60i, (after reading about it for years),  i realized how much i liked the sound.

so, i naturally assumed(and we know about assuming), that spending more $$$ going upline will = better sound, more enjoyment.

so, started researching grado's more expensive models, and discovered that there are vastly different, some even totally

opposite opinions concerning the sounds all the different models.

my second grado, is the 225i, bought used, off amazon for $150. love it, seemed a little bright at first, but as i listened more, realized that

it was just giving me what i fed it.

i had posted in here that i was maybe wanting something that sounded a little warmer.

got serveral suggestion of the alessadro, ms1, so, i got one.

well i love it too, and it was only $90.

so now i'm trying to decide if i want to keep both, if i do keep just one, which one ???? (not a bad problem to have, lol)

these are both terrific headphones, but this dilemma illustrates  several points:

do some reading, don't take everything as truth, but a loose guide,

start at the bottom, work your way up. ( i'm guessing this is very useful where grados are concerned)

LISTEN FOR YOURSELF AND TRUST YOUR OWN EARS.

post #6905 of 24632

oh, and this experience has made me REALLY want to hear the ms2 !! lol
 

post #6906 of 24632

...speaking of spending a lot of money on headphones...*siiiigh*

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOSEPH-GRADO-HP-1000-AND-HPA-1-SIGNATURE-HEADPHONES-PRODUCTS-/181121470610?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item2a2bae5092

 

Not my listing, and probably never will be, just saw it while crusin' t'interwebs this morning...

post #6907 of 24632
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

oh, and this experience has made me REALLY want to hear the ms2 !! lol
 

Compared the MS1i and MS2i today at the shop, It is quite a big fat improvement over the MS1i, much more details and it is much clearer sounding.
I would wish to buy it....redface.gif

post #6908 of 24632

I really want to try everything, too.  But I'm going to try not to.

 

I'm still really enjoying the 225's.  However, my sale of the Hifiman HE-5LE's fell through.  My experience last weekend led me to try the 5LE's again and compare them to the 225i's.  A part of me wishes I hadn't done that.  At first I naturally thought I would never appreciate the 225's again, but in all honest on some source material, I think I prefer them, especially on harder rock with thick guitars.  The soundstage of the Grado's is more focused, and while most people think wide soundstage is ideal, I'm not so sure.  There are times when I want things right in front of me perception-wise.

 

Honestly, the HE-5LE's are arguably the superior headphone.  But the 225's have a thickness to the midrange that just works with a lot of the music I listen to.  Worst case, I'll have two headstations set-up with really good headphones.  The 225's can't compete when it comes to low bass and smoothness in the treble, but I think they have similar characteristics in the mid-range, at least with rock.

 

Now, all I have to do is avoid listening to other cans, and I should be set!

post #6909 of 24632
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post


Now, all I have to do is avoid listening to other cans, and I should be set!

Good luck with that!!

post #6910 of 24632

No luck needed!  Now I can focus on amps, dacs and sources  biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post

No luck needed!  Now I can focus on amps, dacs and sources  biggrin.gif


microstreamer  !! and also got that e9, now, up next, a tube amp !!, no wait, maybe start modding the ms1, arghhhhhhhhhhh

 

i gotta illness i think !

post #6912 of 24632
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Originally Posted by streetdragon View Post

Compared the MS1i and MS2i today at the shop, It is quite a big fat improvement over the MS1i, much more details and it is much clearer sounding.
I would wish to buy it....redface.gif


when i compare the ms1 to the 225, the ms1's general signature, i like better i think, it just doesn't sound as "big" maybe has to do with bass.

the image have by what i've heard others say about the ms2, would be a "bigger" ms1, or a marriage of the 225/ms1

post #6913 of 24632
How about ps500? How do you compare them with 325?
post #6914 of 24632

The MS2i is like you take the SR325i, you tweak the treble abit (make it abit laidback) and add abit more soundstage (depth)

post #6915 of 24632

+1 on that comment, and also add a bit of mid bass, and take away the attack of the 325is, for a more balanced, laid back sound signature.

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