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post #6826 of 27780

Just bought an open box PS500 from headphonebar here in Canada. Should be getting it this coming week. I actually owned these before but sold them when I got into Stax gear.

 

I'm currently splitting my headphone time between a markl modded D7000 and a lovely DIY V5 Magnum I got from another poster here (low profile walnut cups and sleeves).

 

I like the MD7000 a ton but, like all over ear headphones with leather pads, they make my ears sweat after around 20 minutes. that's why I bought the Magnums when they popped up on here for a good price. I wanted a higher end on-ear headphone.

 

But I can only really enjoy the Magnum sound with flat pads. Otherwise it's just too trebly for my ears. and there's zero soundstage width or depth with flats.

 

So, yeah, I'm heading back to the PS500. Decided to get these again since I know they deliver the tone I want and they have a pretty great soundstage with the L cush bowls. they're also really light. I'm looking forward to owning these again. They're the best Grados for my taste - and that includes the GS/PS1000 models.

post #6827 of 27780
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post


you may be a noob, i may be a noob, as far as head-fi goes, but i know garbage in, is garbage out ! the trick, for me at least is finding a balance of resolving, detail, yet forgiving of lesser source material.

That's a tough combination of traits to expect out of a headphone. The headphone I've tried that best matches that description is the Hifiman HE-500. You may look into it. Skip past the HE-400.

 

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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post

Just bought an open box PS500 from headphonebar here in Canada. Should be getting it this coming week. I actually owned these before but sold them when I got into Stax gear.

 

I'm currently splitting my headphone time between a markl modded D7000 and a lovely DIY V5 Magnum I got from another poster here (low profile walnut cups and sleeves).

 

I like the MD7000 a ton but, like all over ear headphones with leather pads, they make my ears sweat after around 20 minutes. that's why I bought the Magnums when they popped up on here for a good price. I wanted a higher end on-ear headphone.

 

But I can only really enjoy the Magnum sound with flat pads. Otherwise it's just too trebly for my ears. and there's zero soundstage width or depth with flats.

 

So, yeah, I'm heading back to the PS500. Decided to get these again since I know they deliver the tone I want and they have a pretty great soundstage with the L cush bowls. they're also really light. I'm looking forward to owning these again. They're the best Grados for my taste - and that includes the GS/PS1000 models.

I can understand this. I really like my V5's / Turbulent X's, but they are perhaps the most treble-oriented headphones I've tried. I listen at low volumes, so this is not a troubling issue to me, but they are very bright headphones and do tend to rip apart sibilant recordings. On the other hand, they're also the most detailed, clear sounding headphones I've heard, and I really enjoy the soundstage presentation, despite being on-ear.

post #6828 of 27780
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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

That's a tough combination of traits to expect out of a headphone. The headphone I've tried that best matches that description is the Hifiman HE-500. You may look into it. Skip past the HE-400.

I can understand this. I really like my V5's / Turbulent X's, but they are perhaps the most treble-oriented headphones I've tried. I listen at low volumes, so this is not a troubling issue to me, but they are very bright headphones and do tend to rip apart sibilant recordings. On the other hand, they're also the most detailed, clear sounding headphones I've heard, and I really enjoy the soundstage presentation, despite being on-ear.

the traits I spoke of are pretty tough for any piece of audio gear, and I'm guessing even tougher for headphones, compromises have to me made, like I said earlier , I've been into audio for a while, but very new to the headphone, pc kinda thing , I'm a newbie, I have much to learn !
post #6829 of 27780
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

the traits I spoke of are pretty tough for any piece of audio gear, and I'm guessing even tougher for headphones, compromises have to me made, like I said earlier , I've been into audio for a while, but very new to the headphone, pc kinda thing , I'm a newbie, I have much to learn !

Generally I think the issue you're going to run into is that resolving/accurate/etc equipment is designed with the intent of letting you know how good (or bad) the signal is. There are plenty of headphones that are forgiving (and most of them are inexpensive), but they won't generally be the kings of resolution and detail. For example the Bose AE2 are very good with "bad" media, but are far from the final word in overall resolution. The RS-1, by contrast, will show you just how dumpy your 128k mp3 rips of Heroin's debut LP are (anyone crying just thinking about this?), but will play very nice with a good CD or LP (or whatever other format).

The easiest solution (IMHO/IME) is to just have multiple headphones. redface.gif
post #6830 of 27780
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


Generally I think the issue you're going to run into is that resolving/accurate/etc equipment is designed with the intent of letting you know how good (or bad) the signal is. There are plenty of headphones that are forgiving (and most of them are inexpensive), but they won't generally be the kings of resolution and detail. For example the Bose AE2 are very good with "bad" media, but are far from the final word in overall resolution. The RS-1, by contrast, will show you just how dumpy your 128k mp3 rips of Heroin's debut LP are (anyone crying just thinking about this?), but will play very nice with a good CD or LP (or whatever other format).

The easiest solution (IMHO/IME) is to just have multiple headphones. redface.gif

 

+1 and Amen, brother.  I am a contractor and, as such, sit in an office space with a "variety" of workers - some of whom are very young and will not stop jabbering.  So, I went back to my Bose QC-15s for their superb noise canceling.  I was listening to some lower bit-rate MP3s and was surprised how much I enjoyed the sound with those cans.

post #6831 of 27780
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post

 

So, yeah, I'm heading back to the PS500. Decided to get these again since I know they deliver the tone I want and they have a pretty great soundstage with the L cush bowls. they're also really light. I'm looking forward to owning these again. They're the best Grados for my taste - and that includes the GS/PS1000 models.

I'm also gonna start looking for a pair of these since I bought 2 Rs1's. One is an older "classic A" Rs1 and the other is the buttonless version right before the Rs1i came out(same thing except that mine has the thinner, older cable). The older pair sounds best with flats to me, but like you said there's not much width or depth to the soundstage. The newer pair sounds best with L cush bowls, but at times the treble is bothersome. 

I'm thinking the Ps500 is more of what I'm looking for, which is the sound I'm getting from the older Rs1 with Flats, but with more depth and width to the soundstage.

 

 

 

post #6832 of 27780

hey y'all, a question

i have the 225's, and the ms1's should be here today, or tomorrow, i know i'll keep one, maybe both

i had to send the d1 back, volume and channel problems

using just the e10

i was pretty pleased with the d1, decent sound, very convenient.

i think i may try something new

budget < $300 for dac/amp combined,

could be 1 unit combined, or separated

i know its not a whole lot, but 3 bills is the max right now

short list:

hrt microstreamer

centrance dacport

ifi idac

aune t1

modi/ magni, various tube headamps, bravo, little dots, etc

or any combination of the above, or  whatever you have tried that pairs well with grados in general

thanks !!

post #6833 of 27780

If your PC is the only source I like the HRT Headstreamer or Audioengine D1.

HRT is a better engineered product but D1 has more features.

post #6834 of 27780
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

If your PC is the only source I like the HRT Headstreamer or Audioengine D1.

HRT is a better engineered product but D1 has more features.


yeah, i really liked the d1's features, usability , but the one i had channel that was cutting out, and the volume control at low levels , the signal would cut in and out

i could still return it, so i did

i'm familiar with hrt's rep, but have never heard any of their products, and with the new microstreamer, i might just go for that, its getting great press

i had the modi briefly, i almost ended up with it, but opted for the features of the d1, and it being a single unit,

anyway, in the past i listened more to my a2's than headphones, but not, its more headphones,

i found a used dacport for $ 230 something,

hell, i may try them all, that'd be the fun thing to do !

i'd like to get a tube in the mix somewhere though

yeah, pc is the source, and its gonna stay put

post #6835 of 27780
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

hey y'all, a question
i have the 225's, and the ms1's should be here today, or tomorrow, i know i'll keep one, maybe both
i had to send the d1 back, volume and channel problems
using just the e10
i was pretty pleased with the d1, decent sound, very convenient.
i think i may try something new
budget < $300 for dac/amp combined,
could be 1 unit combined, or separated
i know its not a whole lot, but 3 bills is the max right now
short list:
hrt microstreamer
centrance dacport
ifi idac
aune t1
modi/ magni, various tube headamps, bravo, little dots, etc
or any combination of the above, or  whatever you have tried that pairs well with grados in general
thanks !!

I've enjoyed my Little Dot I+ hybrid tube amp. David, the owner of Little Dot, was a joy to communicate with, one of the best customer experiences I have had. I went with the WE408A tube upgrade, but as you can see in the thread below, lots of discussion about different tube rolling options:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/364043/little-dot-i-tube-rolling

I really like how the warmer sound of the tubes tame the highs a little on my SR225i.

The Little Dot I+ would then leave you plenty of money for a Schiit Modi or ODAC.
post #6836 of 27780
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post


I've enjoyed my Little Dot I+ hybrid tube amp. David, the owner of Little Dot, was a joy to communicate with, one of the best customer experiences I have had. I went with the WE408A tube upgrade, but as you can see in the thread below, lots of discussion about different tube rolling options:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/364043/little-dot-i-tube-rolling

I really like how the warmer sound of the tubes tame the highs a little on my SR225i.

The Little Dot I+ would then leave you plenty of money for a Schiit Modi or ODAC.


when i had the modi before, i almost went that way, i liked the modi's sound better, but the d1 was cheaper because i didn't have to add the amp

i've made the decision to listen primarily with headphones,

having seperates would allow greater flexibility down the road too

though its not a seperate, i had forgotten about the maverick, i'm researching it as well

post #6837 of 27780
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

hey y'all, a question

i have the 225's, and the ms1's should be here today, or tomorrow, i know i'll keep one, maybe both

i had to send the d1 back, volume and channel problems

using just the e10

i was pretty pleased with the d1, decent sound, very convenient.

i think i may try something new

budget < $300 for dac/amp combined,

could be 1 unit combined, or separated

i know its not a whole lot, but 3 bills is the max right now

short list:

hrt microstreamer

centrance dacport

ifi idac

aune t1

modi/ magni, various tube headamps, bravo, little dots, etc

or any combination of the above, or  whatever you have tried that pairs well with grados in general

thanks !!

I've been reading the positive press on the Hrt Microstreamer as well. I've got an Asgard 2 on back order that I'm expecting soon. My concern would be if the Microstreamer would make my Schiit Asgard obsolete as it is a combined DAC/AMP? I'm also thinking of the Hrt Music Streamer II which is just a DAC as far as I know.  Or, springing for a Bifrost, but since I need USB for my PC, I'd have to spring for the $450 version which would break my rule about not spending significantly more for amp or DAC than the purchase price of the HP. And, the Biforst would more than double my investment in my 225i. I'm sure it's really sweet, but just not sure I can justify the expense with one singleton $200 HP when I could roll the same amount of coin into a second and potetially better investment in HP's.

 

But, who knows, tomorrow I may change my mind!


Edited by markm1 - 4/8/13 at 10:55am
post #6838 of 27780
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

I've been reading the positive press on the Hrt Microstreamer as well. I've got an Asgard 2 on back order that I'm expecting soon. My concern would be if the Microstreamer would make my Schiit Asgard obsolete as it is a combied DAC/AMP? I'm also thinking of the Hrt Music Streamer II which is just a DAC as far as I know.  Or, springing for a Bifrost, but since I need USB for my PC, I'd have to spring for the $450 version which would break my rule about not spending signficantly more for amp or DAC than the purchase price of the HP. And, the Biforst would more than double my investment in my 225i.


you could give the modi a try, its pretty damn good, only about $110-12 delivered

if i do the microstreamer, i'll start with just it, then as funds allow, and i still want tubes, add a tube amp,

ahhhhhh, what to do, what to do ?? i just need a big pile of $$$$$$$

post #6839 of 27780
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

I've been reading the positive press on the Hrt Microstreamer as well. I've got an Asgard 2 on back order that I'm expecting soon. My concern would be if the Microstreamer would make my Schiit Asgard obsolete as it is a combined DAC/AMP? I'm also thinking of the Hrt Music Streamer II which is just a DAC as far as I know.  Or, springing for a Bifrost, but since I need USB for my PC, I'd have to spring for the $450 version which would break my rule about not spending significantly more for amp or DAC than the purchase price of the HP. And, the Biforst would more than double my investment in my 225i. I'm sure it's really sweet, but just not sure I can justify the expense with one singleton $200 HP when I could roll the same amount of coin into a second and potetially better investment in HP's.

 

But, who knows, tomorrow I may change my mind!


i had also thought of stretching my budget, and going the modi, asgard 2 , i wonder.........

post #6840 of 27780
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

I've been reading the positive press on the Hrt Microstreamer as well. I've got an Asgard 2 on back order that I'm expecting soon. My concern would be if the Microstreamer would make my Schiit Asgard obsolete as it is a combined DAC/AMP? I'm also thinking of the Hrt Music Streamer II which is just a DAC as far as I know.  Or, springing for a Bifrost, but since I need USB for my PC, I'd have to spring for the $450 version which would break my rule about not spending significantly more for amp or DAC than the purchase price of the HP. And, the Biforst would more than double my investment in my 225i. I'm sure it's really sweet, but just not sure I can justify the expense with one singleton $200 HP when I could roll the same amount of coin into a second and potetially better investment in HP's.

But, who knows, tomorrow I may change my mind!

The 225i is certainly transparent enough to reveal quality improvements "upstream". I could easily justify a dac and amp totaling $800 with that headphone (assuming high quality files properly delivered to the dac). No investment in headphones can "improve" what's being sent by a lesser dac. IMO Bifrost/Asgard/225i would be seriously musical.
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