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post #6556 of 18123
Off all Grado phones , the jack of all trades would be the PS500. It is not tiring to listen to and handles many genre of music. The PS1000 is the best but money wise, is it worth the price?

SR325is is the best for acoustic, but is tiring if you switch from one genre of music to another. Same thing with RS1i.

RS2i seems very well balance for my taste. Not as tiring as the RS1i. I originally was looking for a sound signature between Sr325is and PS500s and I thought it was the RS1i, but it wasn't. I found the RS2i better, but the woody is veriy delicate for my taste. I hate it being scratched....

Sold my PS5000s-My only quality headphone . I had $250 left for this hobby and was about to pull th trigger on the Vmoda M100 for $50 more, but i cannot keep myself from looking back to Grado. Thinking Bout the SR225, but I need a better soundstage and a bit more bass impact. Went online and found out the Alessandro MS2i dull grey finish like the PS5000s. I heard this is the newer batch. Seller bought it end of Jan2013 for $299. Decided to sell it due to tenitis? I got it for $220 mint. It is a blind buy for me. I am okay if it is tamer than my sold 325is but i heard it has a better soundsatge than intimate presentation by the 325is. For the price i am hoping it is better than the 225 or even the 325is. The only way to find out is to hear it live! It will be here tomorrow.

If i do not like it. I will sell it here same price when I bought it. Email receipt from owner included.
post #6557 of 18123

The MS2i is an awesome headphone, and is much more relaxed than the 325is.

post #6558 of 18123

I hate to say it but I have the bug bad. Already thinking about my next headphone before I get this one. I want to get a fairly major upgrade this time around, not sure if it will be Grado or not, I really like the Sennheisers too, but... From the reading I have done it would seem that the next logical step up in the Grado line would be some RS1i's or possibly the 2i. I have heard some people say there isn't really that much difference between em..save your money and get the 2i, while others seem to think there is no better headphone at any price than the RS1i. Looking to get some opinions preferably from people who have either owned both or at least had some serious listening time with both. Other option might be some 325i's but it seems almost everybody (almost) thinks either of the RS series phones are at least somewhat better.
 

post #6559 of 18123
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post

The MS2i is an awesome headphone, and is much more relaxed than the 325is.

I just can't wait for mine!  Thanks for the feedback.

post #6560 of 18123
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

I hate to say it but I have the bug bad. Already thinking about my next headphone before I get this one. I want to get a fairly major upgrade this time around, not sure if it will be Grado or not, I really like the Sennheisers too, but... From the reading I have done it would seem that the next logical step up in the Grado line would be some RS1i's or possibly the 2i. I have heard some people say there isn't really that much difference between em..save your money and get the 2i, while others seem to think there is no better headphone at any price than the RS1i. Looking to get some opinions preferably from people who have either owned both or at least had some serious listening time with both. Other option might be some 325i's but it seems almost everybody (almost) thinks either of the RS series phones are at least somewhat better.
 

I had an RS325is for a week and the details of sound it produce is excellent!  I love the sound of the guitar chords being strum...  After a week of burn in, the mids and high had gotten better and better.  The sound signature  tamed a bit.  It was just not an all around performer for me due to a very intimate soundstage.  I returned it and got an RS1i.

 

The Rs1i did not last a day.  I returned it the following day due to pain in my right ear.  It was just too peircing after using it for 30 minutes.  Female vocals does not seem to have that real female sound.  The 325is sounds better.   The RS1i is not as intimate as the 325is, but there is this frequency that my ear cannot handle after hearing it for 30 minutes, though it has a better bass than the 325is, it wasn't for me.

 

I drove  back to Illinois and exchanged it to PS500.  The PS500s is smooth as a silk worm in a tube... =).   That is right , it is tube like sound.  I just wish soundstage is just a bit closer.  Bass is great!  I would just like to crank the mids and high just a tad bit to balance with the bass and it could have been the Perfect phone!  If I have to start from scratch with enough money to spare for one more, I would just go straight to the RS2i.

 

But wait, I have to hear the MS2i first and this will conclude my Grado journey...

 

FYI, I am not a headfi expert, but I had a chance to hear all Grado headphone models except the Alessandro...  The phone that struck me are ( left a dent in my sound memory) are the 325is, RS2i and Ps500/1000s.   325is for (vocals, guitars, violin etc.). RS2i  - Blend of 325 and PS500 and not tiring to listen too.  I love it for Cont. Jazz .  PS500s for modern blend of genre such as R&B ,  Bieber (hahaha!) etc...


Edited by Awgd8 - 3/24/13 at 12:17pm
post #6561 of 18123
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Originally Posted by Awgd8 View Post

I had an RS325is for a week and the details of sound it produce is excellent!  I love the sound of the guitar chords being strum...  After a week of burn in, the mids and high had gotten better and better.  The sound signature  tamed a bit.  It was just not an all around performer for me due to a very intimate soundstage.  I returned it and got an RS1i.

The Rs1i did not last a day.  I returned it the following day due to pain in my right ear.  It was just too peircing after using it for 30 minutes.  Female vocals does not seem to have that real female sound.  The 325is sounds better.   The RS1i is not as intimate as the 325is, but there is this frequency that my ear cannot handle after hearing it for 30 minutes, though it has a better bass than the 325is, it wasn't for me.

I drove  back to Illinois and exchanged it to PS500.  The PS500s is smooth as a silk worm in a tube... =).   That is right , it is tube like sound.  I just wish soundstage is just a bit closer.  Bass is great!  I would just like to crank the mids and high just a tad bit to balance with the bass and it could have been the Perfect phone!  If I have to start from scratch with enough money to spare for one more, I would just go straight to the RS2i.

But wait, I have to hear the MS2i first and this will conclude my Grado journey...

Wow - I'm almost wondering if you didn't get a botched RS-1. redface.gif I'm not gonna lie - they're bright, forward, and can be aggressive; but "piercing" and "unnatural" do not sound right...ph34r.gif (It's more the "unnatural" comment that has me curious - IME the RS-1 are one of the most tonally natural headphones I've heard). Yes, there's always the chance they just aren't for you, and I'm not trying to diminish what you're saying (because even if they were defective, that's worth knowing about too - QC should be better at $700!).

Personally (and I haven't heard RS-2 or PS-500), I'd take the RS-1 as a step-up from the Prestige series headphones, both for the extra smoothness they offer, and the improved soundstaging. The SR-225/325 are fine headphones as well; I preference the 225 (the 325 is brighter and heavier), but both are a fine step up from the SR-80 as well. As far as "is it worth $200-$300-$500-$700?" - that's more to the individual to decide; personally I like the RS-1 better than the SR series, but I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying 3.5x better. That said, the 225 aren't going to be the same experience - so basically it's half a dozen of one, and six of the other. popcorn.gif
post #6562 of 18123
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


Wow - I'm almost wondering if you didn't get a botched RS-1. redface.gif I'm not gonna lie - they're bright, forward, and can be aggressive; but "piercing" and "unnatural" do not sound right...ph34r.gif (It's more the "unnatural" comment that has me curious - IME the RS-1 are one of the most tonally natural headphones I've heard). Yes, there's always the chance they just aren't for you, and I'm not trying to diminish what you're saying (because even if they were defective, that's worth knowing about too - QC should be better at $700!).

Personally (and I haven't heard RS-2 or PS-500), I'd take the RS-1 as a step-up from the Prestige series headphones, both for the extra smoothness they offer, and the improved soundstaging. The SR-225/325 are fine headphones as well; I preference the 225 (the 325 is brighter and heavier), but both are a fine step up from the SR-80 as well. As far as "is it worth $200-$300-$500-$700?" - that's more to the individual to decide; personally I like the RS-1 better than the SR series, but I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying 3.5x better. That said, the 225 aren't going to be the same experience - so basically it's half a dozen of one, and six of the other. popcorn.gif

 

I believe you.  I might had gotten a bad RS1i ?  It was so bad that I knew it after hearing it for 2 minutes.... =).  The 325is was even better, though with lesser bass.

 

Maybe someday, I will audition another RS1i again.  I was expecting to get a sound signature between the RS325  and Ps500s of from the RS1i , but I was very disappointed. 

325is lasted for a week , the Rs1i lasted 15 hours and went back to the store...=(

 

Ps500s lated 5months ... and that is due to funding other hobby..=)

 

BtW, the RS1i and 325is were connected straight to the iMac /iTunes.  No Amplifier/ DAC.

 

I am 100% sure the RS1i could not well reproduce a real female sound.  I was demoing 

RuPaul's CD and believe me , not very good... ( wink, wink!). 


Edited by Awgd8 - 3/24/13 at 2:07pm
post #6563 of 18123
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Originally Posted by Awgd8 View Post

I believe you.  I might had gotten a bad RS1i ?  It was so bad that I knew it after hearing it for 2 minutes.... =).  The 325is was even better, though with lesser bass.

See, I'd agree with them having more bass, but they shouldn't sound "unnatural" through the vocals (the RS-1, IME, have a knack for making voices/vocals sound uncannily real - they're kind of eerie with some videogames and movies that have really spot-on dialog mixing, or music that has weird "background" stuff going on (like the intro to Michael Jackson's Black Or White)).

Also, wasn't there someone else who recently ordered up an RS-1 and it came and one whole side died within the first hour? Ugh. ph34r.gif
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Maybe someday, I will audition another RS1i again.  I was expecting to get a sound signature between the RS325  and Ps500s of from the RS1i , but I was very disappointed. 
325is lasted for a week , the Rs1i lasted 15 hours and went back to the store...=(

No idea about the PS-500 (wish I could say I knew them, but I don't), but I would put the RS-1's signature as very much between the 325 and the GS; they're bigger, but not unnaturally so, and smoother, but not to the point of some of the ritzier ATs (which are like buttah).

Really bizarre overall. If you get a chance to try'em again, I'd be interested in what you hear; it's entirely possible they just aren't a good fit for you, but if the SR-325 weren't overly bright/offensive, I don't see how the RS-1 (or any other Grado, honestly) should be...
post #6564 of 18123
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Originally Posted by Awgd8 View Post

I had an RS325is for a week and the details of sound it produce is excellent!  I love the sound of the guitar chords being strum...  After a week of burn in, the mids and high had gotten better and better.  The sound signature  tamed a bit.  It was just not an all around performer for me due to a very intimate soundstage.  I returned it and got an RS1i.

 

The Rs1i did not last a day.  I returned it the following day due to pain in my right ear.  It was just too peircing after using it for 30 minutes.  Female vocals does not seem to have that real female sound.  The 325is sounds better.   The RS1i is not as intimate as the 325is, but there is this frequency that my ear cannot handle after hearing it for 30 minutes, though it has a better bass than the 325is, it wasn't for me.

 

I drove  back to Illinois and exchanged it to PS500.  The PS500s is smooth as a silk worm in a tube... =).   That is right , it is tube like sound.  I just wish soundstage is just a bit closer.  Bass is great!  I would just like to crank the mids and high just a tad bit to balance with the bass and it could have been the Perfect phone!  If I have to start from scratch with enough money to spare for one more, I would just go straight to the RS2i.

 

But wait, I have to hear the MS2i first and this will conclude my Grado journey...

 

FYI, I am not a headfi expert, but I had a chance to hear all Grado headphone models except the Alessandro...  The phone that struck me are ( left a dent in my sound memory) are the 325is, RS2i and Ps500/1000s.   325is for (vocals, guitars, violin etc.). RS2i  - Blend of 325 and PS500 and not tiring to listen too.  I love it for Cont. Jazz .  PS500s for modern blend of genre such as R&B ,  Bieber (hahaha!) etc...

It really sound like you are going to love the MS2i from what you are wishing for from this post.

They have more mid bass than the 325is, and also the mids are not as upfront either, giving them a warmer, fuller, all around sound. Your going to love them!!!

post #6565 of 18123

Personally from my audition i tested the sr325i and the MS2i, and i liked the MS2i better since it is not as aggressive as the sr325i. I have a gravitation towards laidback sounding headphones though so this is just my personal opinion, the sr325i is definitely more bright and the MS2i having a fuller sound as stated above.

post #6566 of 18123
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post

It really sound like you are going to love the MS2i from what you are wishing for from this post.

They have more mid bass than the 325is, and also the mids are not as upfront either, giving them a warmer, fuller, all around sound. Your going to love them!!!

Thanks for reassuring my decision.   Now I would assume the Alessandro Pro would be a better fit for me than the RS1i since it is more neutral sounding.... It is too late now since I do not have that money to burn... =). 

 

I think price-wise,  $200-300 headphone is ideal. $500+ is too much. (Just my personal opinion)   That is one of the reasons  I sold my PS500.  I can fund another hobby and buy a decent one for half the price of the PS500s.  

 

I heard the MS2i fit the bill for a decent balance of price and sound quality.  

But I still need to prove this tomorrow when I get it...

post #6567 of 18123
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


See, I'd agree with them having more bass, but they shouldn't sound "unnatural" through the vocals (the RS-1, IME, have a knack for making voices/vocals sound uncannily real - they're kind of eerie with some videogames and movies that have really spot-on dialog mixing, or music that has weird "background" stuff going on (like the intro to Michael Jackson's Black Or White)).

Also, wasn't there someone else who recently ordered up an RS-1 and it came and one whole side died within the first hour? Ugh. ph34r.gif


No idea about the PS-500 (wish I could say I knew them, but I don't), but I would put the RS-1's signature as very much between the 325 and the GS; they're bigger, but not unnaturally so, and smoother, but not to the point of some of the ritzier ATs (which are like buttah).

Really bizarre overall. If you get a chance to try'em again, I'd be interested in what you hear; it's entirely possible they just aren't a good fit for you, but if the SR-325 weren't overly bright/offensive, I don't see how the RS-1 (or any other Grado, honestly) should be...

I will definitely check out the RS1i again in the future to demo.   Though, when I audition the RS2i , it felt more balance to my ears.... I will report back....

post #6568 of 18123
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Originally Posted by streetdragon View Post

Personally from my audition i tested the sr325i and the MS2i, and i liked the MS2i better since it is not as aggressive as the sr325i. I have a gravitation towards laidback sounding headphones though so this is just my personal opinion, the sr325i is definitely more bright and the MS2i having a fuller sound as stated above.

Thanks for the input on this phone.  I would assume the fuller sound means better soundstage?  Or more bass? 

post #6569 of 18123
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Originally Posted by Awgd8 View Post

Thanks for the input on this phone.  I would assume the fuller sound means better soundstage?  Or more bass? 

a warmer presentation, not as dry as the sr325i, or has more body to the sound, or smoother, or more lush, well there are many ways to describe soundtongue.gif

post #6570 of 18123
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Originally Posted by streetdragon View Post

a warmer presentation, not as dry as the sr325i, or has more body to the sound, or smoother, or more lush, well there are many ways to describe soundtongue.gif

Hahaha! I know what you mean...  As long as it is not a sound of silence. Aka DOA ( dead on arrival). I am all for the MS2i.  =) 

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